NationStates

Geneviev wrote:

Kannap wrote:
Been trying to shake thinking about it myself, it's hard to do after being raised to believe in that stuff for such a long time.

It is hard. I wonder how they did that.

I've decided I need to read a good book about the history of the ideas and beliefs of Hell/good commentary on what the Bible says or about the verses people use to point out "Hell is real!"

I've read two books this year that mentioned briefly in passing the topic but I need to read it more in depth to figure out what I actually believe - though the brief mentions in the other two books have pushed me further away from believing in Hell. Could have used that years ago and enjoyed a bit less anxiety.

The Free Joy State wrote:

Heloin wrote:I think most of the jokes I made still hold up.

Fortunately, I have no really old posts. Not on this site, anyway.

As for other sites, the internet may remember but I've managed to block it out!

Let's not mention other sites.

Kannap wrote:

Geneviev wrote:It is hard. I wonder how they did that.

I've decided I need to read a good book about the history of the ideas and beliefs of Hell/good commentary on what the Bible says or about the verses people use to point out "Hell is real!"

I've read two books this year that mentioned briefly in passing the topic but I need to read it more in depth to figure out what I actually believe - though the brief mentions in the other two books have pushed me further away from believing in Hell. Could have used that years ago and enjoyed a bit less anxiety.

I know someone recommended a book like that to me, but I really can't remember what it was.

The Free Joy State wrote:

Heloin wrote:I think most of the jokes I made still hold up.

Fortunately, I have no really old posts. Not on this site, anyway.

As for other sites, the internet may remember but I've managed to block it out!

I happily managed to delete most of the pre-2016 history of me from the face of the internet. The games I made, the stories I wrote, the really awkward blogs all gone. I still have them on hard drives because I'm obsessed with redundancy, so if I ever go insane those may pop up again.

Xuloqoia wrote:

Geneviev wrote:I don't believe in hell anymore, but I still think about it. Does anyone know why?

Would you like to know what I think happens after death, by any chance?

What do you think?

Geneviev wrote:

Xuloqoia wrote:
Would you like to know what I think happens after death, by any chance?

What do you think?

Are you doubting the giant magical walrus?

Geneviev wrote:

The Free Joy State wrote:Fortunately, I have no really old posts. Not on this site, anyway.

As for other sites, the internet may remember but I've managed to block it out!

Let's not mention other sites.

Kannap wrote:
I've decided I need to read a good book about the history of the ideas and beliefs of Hell/good commentary on what the Bible says or about the verses people use to point out "Hell is real!"

I've read two books this year that mentioned briefly in passing the topic but I need to read it more in depth to figure out what I actually believe - though the brief mentions in the other two books have pushed me further away from believing in Hell. Could have used that years ago and enjoyed a bit less anxiety.

I know someone recommended a book like that to me, but I really can't remember what it was.

I think Christianity without Hell makes more sense. What's the point in fear of going to an evil place being the main motivation or only motivation for you to 'believe' in God or do good, nice things?

Not to say everybody who believes in Hell has the fear of going there as a sole motivation, of course.

Heloin wrote:

Geneviev wrote:What do you think?

Are you doubting the giant magical walrus?

I only believe in the tiny ostrich.

Kannap wrote:

Geneviev wrote:Let's not mention other sites.


I know someone recommended a book like that to me, but I really can't remember what it was.

I think Christianity without Hell makes more sense. What's the point in fear of going to an evil place being the main motivation or only motivation for you to 'believe' in God or do good, nice things?

Not to say everybody who believes in Hell has the fear of going there as a sole motivation, of course.

Hell seems like a way to manipulate people. Fear of hell could make someone do something they normally wouldn't do. That's the most disturbing thing about it.

Heloin wrote:

Xuloqoia wrote:
Would you like to know what I think happens after death, by any chance?

The 20 foot tall walrus takes you on a magical trip to a land beyond the sea.

Probably not, but if that is indeed what occurs, then I guess you get bragging rights.

My view on death is rather complex. I can't know for certain what lies after the cessation of bodily functions, but some things seem more likely than others. Being a Platonist in my metaphysics, I believe that the "soul" (for lack of a more precise English term) is eternal, but that does not mean that you (in any practical sense, that is) are. In essence, although our "souls" are eternal, they are not aware after death. In many respects the state of one in the eons after one dies is similar to the state of one in the eons before one's birth; you may "exist", but only in a sense so divorced from the normal connotations of "exist" that the only ones who will know any comfort are philosophers and other pedantic academic types with their heads ostritched up their collective rears.

But I digress. I suppose then that while in a strictly "de jure" sense I believe in the immortality of the soul, in a "de facto" sense I believe that all are consigned to a state of oblivion after the end of life. Perhaps, and this is a very big perhaps, some scattered individuals might figure out how to enter into such a psychological state so as to experience eternal bliss instead of... well, nothing, but I wouldn't bet on it if I'm to be quite honest with y'all.

Geneviev wrote:

Heloin wrote:Are you doubting the giant magical walrus?

I only believe in the tiny ostrich.

Kannap wrote:
I think Christianity without Hell makes more sense. What's the point in fear of going to an evil place being the main motivation or only motivation for you to 'believe' in God or do good, nice things?

Not to say everybody who believes in Hell has the fear of going there as a sole motivation, of course.

Hell seems like a way to manipulate people. Fear of hell could make someone do something they normally wouldn't do. That's the most disturbing thing about it.

Exactly.

Being frightened or scared into believing in God, Jesus, etc. or else you're going to burn eternally in a lake of fire is simply not genuine faith. I mean, if you put a gun to my head and told me to do anything short of hurting somebody I'd probably do it.

Geneviev wrote:

Heloin wrote:Are you doubting the giant magical walrus?

I only believe in the tiny ostrich.

Kannap's not tiny!

Kannap wrote:

Geneviev wrote:I only believe in the tiny ostrich.


Hell seems like a way to manipulate people. Fear of hell could make someone do something they normally wouldn't do. That's the most disturbing thing about it.

Exactly.

Being frightened or scared into believing in God, Jesus, etc. or else you're going to burn eternally in a lake of fire is simply not genuine faith. I mean, if you put a gun to my head and told me to do anything short of hurting somebody I'd probably do it.

There are people who would hurt someone in that situation. It's very wrong to scare someone that much.

Heloin wrote:

Geneviev wrote:I only believe in the tiny ostrich.

Kannap's not tiny!

Kannap's not dead. As far as I know.

Geneviev wrote:

Heloin wrote:Kannap's not tiny!

Kannap's not dead. As far as I know.

Only on the inside.

Geneviev wrote:

Heloin wrote:Kannap's not tiny!

Kannap's not dead. As far as I know.

They say that above Elvis and Tupac, too.

Kannap wrote:

Geneviev wrote:

Kannap's not dead. As far as I know.

Only on the inside.

See? Only the spiritual ostrich is tiny.

And whatever that was, it's complete nonsense and I don't know what it's supposed to mean.

I honestly hate when I stumble upon a drawing or animation style that I fall in love with. I fell the need to want to recreate it but am afraid I won't be able to inject enough of my own style to keep it from just being a copy.

Heloin wrote:I honestly hate when I stumble upon a drawing or animation style that I fall in love with. I fell the need to want to recreate it but am afraid I won't be able to inject enough of my own style to keep it from just being a copy.

Well you could just do what I do and have not artistic qualities whatsoever.

I am very awake. I am so awake. My mind is a hive of hyperactive bees. I am...zzz

Sovaal wrote:

Heloin wrote:I honestly hate when I stumble upon a drawing or animation style that I fall in love with. I fell the need to want to recreate it but am afraid I won't be able to inject enough of my own style to keep it from just being a copy.

Well you could just do what I do and have not artistic qualities whatsoever.

If only life could be so easy.

Sovaal wrote:

Heloin wrote:I honestly hate when I stumble upon a drawing or animation style that I fall in love with. I fell the need to want to recreate it but am afraid I won't be able to inject enough of my own style to keep it from just being a copy.

Well you could just do what I do and have not artistic qualities whatsoever.

I rolled all of the artistic temperament and none of the talent. Is that a good build?

Heloin wrote:I honestly hate when I stumble upon a drawing or animation style that I fall in love with. I fell the need to want to recreate it but am afraid I won't be able to inject enough of my own style to keep it from just being a copy.

Ever tried a drawing pad?

Nakena wrote:

Heloin wrote:I honestly hate when I stumble upon a drawing or animation style that I fall in love with. I fell the need to want to recreate it but am afraid I won't be able to inject enough of my own style to keep it from just being a copy.

Ever tried a drawing pad?

On the budget for my Christmas gift to myself this year.

Dumb Ideologies wrote:

Sovaal wrote:Well you could just do what I do and have not artistic qualities whatsoever.

I rolled all of the artistic temperament and none of the talent. Is that a good build?

You my want to reroll your stats if you still can.

Heloin wrote:

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
I rolled all of the artistic temperament and none of the talent. Is that a good build?

You my want to reroll your stats if you still can.

why are the dice screaming?

Dumb Ideologies wrote:

Heloin wrote:You my want to reroll your stats if you still can.

why are the dice screaming?

*checks rule book*

Congratulations! You are cursed. Wear this garlic, it should help with the problem.