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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:48 pm

Purgatio wrote:
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Your second post has no relevance to the point its responding to.


Not my fault that you're ignoring that the Proud Boys slot very easily into the role of the punchboy in your scenario.
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Postby New Franklin » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:56 pm

Portland mayor is an abject failure and a disgrace. I'm surprised any police officers even agree to work in that city at all. What a shock it would be if they all walk off the job until Wheeler realizes how badly his city is doing under Antifa control. sickening. It's time for Antifa to be classified across the board as the Domestic Terrorists that they are.

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Postby Kowani » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:58 pm

New Franklin wrote:Portland mayor is an abject failure and a disgrace. I'm surprised any police officers even agree to work in that city at all. What a shock it would be if they all walk off the job until Wheeler realizes how badly his city is doing under Antifa control. sickening. It's time for Antifa to be classified across the board as the Domestic Terrorists that they are.

>Antifa are domestic terrorists
>Antifa kill count: Crickets chirp
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:59 pm

New Franklin wrote:Portland mayor is an abject failure and a disgrace. I'm surprised any police officers even agree to work in that city at all. What a shock it would be if they all walk off the job until Wheeler realizes how badly his city is doing under Antifa control. sickening. It's time for Antifa to be classified across the board as the Domestic Terrorists that they are.

Are you serious? What would you have liked the mayor to do? Antifa didnt take over the city nor are they domestic terrorists. The white supremacists are.
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Postby Takso » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:03 pm

I hold the view that violent extremists on both sides are domestic terrorists as they both use terror as their primary tool, however it would be a mistake to imply they are equally as dangerous. It is clear in the United States that far-right extremists pose a greater threat to the population than extremists on the left. That being said, they both seem to feed off each other like a vicious cycle.

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Postby Trollgaard » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:15 pm

This is ridiculous. WHO were the white supremacists?

Proud Boys? As if so that is an absolute false statement.

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Postby Takso » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:24 pm

Trollgaard wrote:This is ridiculous. WHO were the white supremacists?

Proud Boys? As if so that is an absolute false statement.


I am unsure if "white supremacist" or even "white nationalist" is the best label for them... More like Western chauvinistic drinking and fighting club? I don't think their methods are very healthy for themselves or others.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:47 pm

Jonas Savimbi did nothing wrong.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:55 pm

Takso wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:This is ridiculous. WHO were the white supremacists?

Proud Boys? As if so that is an absolute false statement.


I am unsure if "white supremacist" or even "white nationalist" is the best label for them... More like Western chauvinistic drinking and fighting club? I don't think their methods are very healthy for themselves or others.


I think the aesthetic/LARP they're going for is similar to the street gangs from Gangs of New York.
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Postby Takso » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:03 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:Jonas Savimbi did nothing wrong.


Not entirely sure how this connects, but for those who don't know...

Jonas Savimbi formed the UNITA (National Union for the Total Independence of Angola), he was an Angolan general that fought against both colonialists and communists.

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That was him smiling in 1989.

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That was him enjoying a cordial visit with European leaders in the same year.

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Three years prior in 1986, he visited President Reagan, which both can be seen smiling together as they discuss important matters.

He was killed in action in 2002 while fighting communists in Angola. He is survived by 25 children. Paula Roque* of the University of Oxford, an expert on Africa commented on him as being "a very charismatic man" who "exuded power and leadership".

Angola remains divided by the UNITA and left-wing MPLA (People's Movement for the Liberation of Angola).

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Postby Torrocca » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:32 pm

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So what actually happened then?


I already explained like ten times. The activists on the bus were attacked, unprovoked, by ANTIFA vandals tossing rocks at them without first provocation, the activists disembarked and, fearing a continuing attack from the ANTIFA vandals, swung their hammers in the air to protect their bodily integrity, and passers-by were accidentally struck, the fault for that lies on the persons who made the unprovoked attack in the first place, ANTIFA.

Hence, Andy Ngo did not lie when he characterised the activists on the bus as acting in legitimate self-defence, and ANTIFA as the unprovoked aggressors.


Don't you just hate it when you leave the safety of an armored vehicle, swing your hammer wildly in the air to yeet rocks away from it like fucking Babe Ruth, and accidentally hit a bunch of bystanders along the way?

You really need to stop making up these fucking bullshit scenarios that clearly didn't happen. The cameras don't lie, champ. The Fascists clearly stormed off the bus and purposefully attacked people who weren't throwing rocks.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:28 am

So since I'm not in the mood to go sifting through posts I have on ignore, did we get evidence of rocks being thrown, or is this another "James Fields was being chased by a man with a gun and a crowd with baseball bats" situation?
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:31 am

Vassenor wrote:So since I'm not in the mood to go sifting through posts I have on ignore, did we get evidence of rocks being thrown, or is this another "James Fields was being chased by a man with a gun and a crowd with baseball bats" situation?


People on an underpass threw rocks, leading to people on the overpass - where the bus was actually located - being attacked by hammer-armed Fascists.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:33 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:get of your high horse, Portland is under occupation anyway.

Odd that I was able to walk around Portland with no issue while the protest was going on...and I was only a couple of blocks from the Protest. Even more funny is that I was only that few blocks away...and heard and saw nothing. Life went on without a hitch.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:37 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:get of your high horse, Portland is under occupation anyway.

Odd that I was able to walk around Portland with no issue while the protest was going on...and I was only a couple of blocks from the Protest. Even more funny is that I was only that few blocks away...and heard and saw nothing. Life went on without a hitch.

Clearly you are one of the evil, evil anarchists.

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Postby Crockerland » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:40 am

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Loben The 2nd wrote:get of your high horse, Portland is under occupation anyway.

By who?

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:16 am

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Arcadian Union wrote:By who?

Israel! >:(

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Postby Atomaska » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:32 am

So OP wants us to "stop talking and actually get things done"...
What is posting on this forum going to achieve?

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:34 am

Atomaska wrote:So OP wants us to "stop talking and actually get things done"...
What is posting on this forum going to achieve?

Jolly banter.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:42 am

Y'know. I wonder how much money someone could make with a fleet of drones to stream these events live.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:20 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:Y'know. I wonder how much money someone could make with a fleet of drones to stream these events live.

If Andy Ngo's grift is anything to go by? A lot of money.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:21 am

Crockerland wrote:
Arcadian Union wrote:By who?

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Netanyahu is such an asshole >:(
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Postby Lanoraie II » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:02 pm

Trump didn't speak about the fascists because they weren't the ones acting like fascists.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:07 pm

Lanoraie II wrote:Trump didn't speak about the fascists because they weren't the ones acting like fascists.


Yes, the Fascists were busily spreading their Fascism non-Fascistically... however that works. I guess violence is Fascism and the more violence you do the Fascister it is or something.
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Postby Blueflarst » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:08 pm

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A rally of far-right groups was met by a large counterdemonstration in Portland, Oregon, on Saturday.

Fears that the showdown would turn violent prompted some downtown businesses to close and led to a massive police presence. At least 13 people were arrested, according to Lt. Tina Jones of the Portland Police Bureau.

Six people, including one who was hospitalized, reported minor injuries during the day, police Chief Danielle Outlaw said at news conference.

There were also six "use-of-force" events by officers, she said, mostly involving "take-downs" of suspects, and no one was injured.

The dueling demonstrations garnered national attention, including from President Donald Trump, who tweeted earlier Saturday in reference to self-described anti-fascists, some of whom are known collectively as antifa, “Major consideration is being given to naming ANTIFA an “ORGANIZATION OF TERROR.” Portland is being watched very closely. Hopefully the Mayor will be able to properly do his job!”


Portland police tweeted about 30 minutes after the protests started at 11 a.m. that officers were there to protect people's right to speak freely.

“PPB and our partners are here to protect everyone's safety while facilitating everyone's 1st Amendment right to gather and speak. It is the foundation of our democracy and critical to Portland's identity,” police tweeted.

Officers worked to keep the opposing groups apart and nearly an hour after the demonstrations began police said they had seized weapons from participants including bear spray, shields, and poles.



This is sickening, that Trump didn't comment on the White Supremacists he emboldened as they are big fans of him but instead focused on Antifa, shows who he cares about, the piece of shit he is. He needs to be impeached for the bloodshed he threatened to spill in my city.
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These "protesters" are just white-supremacist terrorists, though legally gangs, and should be treated as such. I am sick of this violent behavior, as a city council candidate I am in increased danger purely for my skin color. This is not ok! This is not normal!
We should be able to live in our state, city, and country without fear of murder due to our skin color not being the dominant one!

We need a new, civic, activist populism. We need a populism of compassion, and tolerance. I not only ask NSG to comment, but to create a thread somewhere for a new, NS-originated group dedicated to stopping this madness(The thread is not going to be the main means, it's just a way to get ns'ers together without creating a discord server which would be a mess).
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