Fascist White Supremacist Rally in Portland Thwarted

[Cekoviu]

As I've said before, letting immigrants in doesn't increase the number of kids they have. Pollution is a world problem, not contained exclusively within the US. I'm not going to support effectively killing off people because they have too many kids - the solution is education, not death.

I'm not saying kill them off. I'm saying don't let them in.

i.e., leave people in war-torn, poverty-stricken, and/or gang-ridden countries which they may be fleeing due to targeting by drug lords/pirates, potentially fatal domestic violence, and totalitarian dictatorships that want to imprison them. Yeah, they're definitely not going to be harmed or killed by that.

If you want us to have less kids then be fucking consistent about. Stop letting in people who're having most of the kids now.

You're clearly incapable of understanding that people don't cease to exist when they're not in the United States, so whatever.

[Cekoviu]

Yes, which is why we need to up international aid and provide easy access to sex education and contraception. And apparently advancing feminism and the demise of the nuclear family there, since that's what brought down our birth rates according to you.

And we could stop providing food aid.

Cool, starving people. That's definitely something that a reasonable person would recommend.

[Nova Cyberia]

I'm not saying kill them off. I'm saying don't let them in.

i.e., leave people in war-torn, poverty-stricken, and/or gang-ridden countries which they may be fleeing due to targeting by drug lords/pirates, potentially fatal domestic violence, and totalitarian dictatorships that want to imprison them. Yeah, they're definitely not going to be harmed or killed by that.

If you want us to have less kids then be fucking consistent about. Stop letting in people who're having most of the kids now.

You're clearly incapable of understanding that people don't cease to exist when they're not in the United States, so whatever.

People in the Western countries produce a much bigger carbon footprint than people in developing countries.

You want them to come here with their 6 kids and produce a way bigger carbon footprint or make them stay in whatever dump they came from so they can produce a much smaller carbon footprint?

[Bear Stearns]

And we could stop providing food aid.

Cool, starving people. That's definitely something that a reasonable person would recommend.

The food aid is partly why their population exploded in the latter half of the 20th century.

[Crysuko]

I'm not saying kill them off. I'm saying don't let them in.

i.e., leave people in war-torn, poverty-stricken, and/or gang-ridden countries which they may be fleeing due to targeting by drug lords/pirates, potentially fatal domestic violence, and totalitarian dictatorships that want to imprison them. Yeah, they're definitely not going to be harmed or killed by that.

If you want us to have less kids then be fucking consistent about. Stop letting in people who're having most of the kids now.

You're clearly incapable of understanding that people don't cease to exist when they're not in the United States, so whatever.

it's a more eloquent way of saying that brown people are icky

[USS Monitor]

Because a great many leftists seem to believe that they can create some sort of multi-ethnic utopia. They want whites to have lower birthrates.

Why do you think they demand we have less kids while simultaneously demanding we let in immigrants who statistically have more kids than the average citizen?
It's insanity that's only going to lead to further Balkanization in America.

Hmph, I was right wasn't I? Did I nail this or what? I see through what the Left and globalists are trying to do, and I know deep down that it isn't anything good. Especially not for the majority White world that I was born into. I'm calling that out, we of the developed world don't need to be the ones that're changing. What we need to do instead is defend what is ours, a huge part of this- is of course, keeping out the undesirable immigration as Donald Trump is trying to do.

The world was not majority white when you were born. Take a chill pill.

Wanting to lower birthrates is a niche thing, not the dominant ideology of the left. Where leftists do want to lower birth rates, it's generally due to environmental concerns and it's meant to apply across the board to all races. These are the same people that want to distribute contraceptives and information about family planning in 3rd world countries.

[Otira]

2) The Proud Boys are nazi thugs.

They're weird Nazis too, having membership in Israel and their founder being a Zionist.

https://proudboysusa.com/chapters/asia/israel/

[Cekoviu]

i.e., leave people in war-torn, poverty-stricken, and/or gang-ridden countries which they may be fleeing due to targeting by drug lords/pirates, potentially fatal domestic violence, and totalitarian dictatorships that want to imprison them. Yeah, they're definitely not going to be harmed or killed by that.

You're clearly incapable of understanding that people don't cease to exist when they're not in the United States, so whatever.

People in the Western countries produce a much bigger carbon footprint than people in developing countries.

You want them to come here with their 6 kids and produce a way bigger carbon footprint or make them stay in whatever dump they came from so they can produce a much smaller carbon footprint?

Immigrants from poor backgrounds are also less wasteful, more aware of how much they're consuming, frequently not affluent enough to afford polluting things, will probably have less children than in their original country, and are often hard workers. This, combined with the moral benefit of not leaving people to die, outweighs the carbon cost. The waste from the much larger native-born population is going to far outweigh the waste from foreign-born populations anyway.

[Nova Cyberia]

People in the Western countries produce a much bigger carbon footprint than people in developing countries.

You want them to come here with their 6 kids and produce a way bigger carbon footprint or make them stay in whatever dump they came from so they can produce a much smaller carbon footprint?

Immigrants from poor backgrounds are also less wasteful, more aware of how much they're consuming, frequently not affluent enough to afford polluting things, will probably have less children than in their original country, and are often hard workers. This, combined with the moral benefit of not leaving people to die, outweighs the carbon cost. The waste from the much larger native-born population is going to far outweigh the waste from foreign-born populations anyway.

Perhaps the immigrants will be less wasteful, but I doubt their Westernized kids and grandkids are going to be the same. No matter which way you cut it, you're still being inconsistent in terms of what you say you want.

And btw, most immigrants who come here are not at risk of dying. They're just poor. Most immigrants aren't refugees. Stop with the fallacious moral dilema.

[6th National Revolutionary France]

Proud Boys are not racist dude, do research you might find that you like them.

Also NSG is not going to help you.

Let's see your evidence for that claim then.

I read your description and I cannot take you seriously.

https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/lati ... 0e6d706b83

I will post this here, but I would rather not have to hear anything someone like you has to say.

[Ifreann]

i.e., leave people in war-torn, poverty-stricken, and/or gang-ridden countries which they may be fleeing due to targeting by drug lords/pirates, potentially fatal domestic violence, and totalitarian dictatorships that want to imprison them. Yeah, they're definitely not going to be harmed or killed by that.

You're clearly incapable of understanding that people don't cease to exist when they're not in the United States, so whatever.

People in the Western countries produce a much bigger carbon footprint than people in developing countries.

You want them to come here with their 6 kids and produce a way bigger carbon footprint or make them stay in whatever dump they came from so they can produce a much smaller carbon footprint?

I mean, I want to target environmental protection efforts at the industries and corporations that are actually most responsible, and not at individuals. You freaking out at the environmental impact of non-white immigrants having too many non-white children in America is on the same level as people freaking out over plastic straws.

[Molonia]

Right-wing group protests: "Please respect their point of view."

Left-wing group counterprotests: "They must be declared a terrorist organization."

Gotta love concern trolls.

[Ostroeuropa]

People in the Western countries produce a much bigger carbon footprint than people in developing countries.

You want them to come here with their 6 kids and produce a way bigger carbon footprint or make them stay in whatever dump they came from so they can produce a much smaller carbon footprint?

I mean, I want to target environmental protection efforts at the industries and corporations that are actually most responsible, and not at individuals. You freaking out at the environmental impact of non-white immigrants having too many non-white children in America is on the same level as people freaking out over plastic straws.

Are you factoring in how the left turning actively hostile to the native population and driving them into the arms of the right wing impacts pollution levels when people like Trump then don't sign paris accords and so on?

[Fartsniffage]

Immigrants from poor backgrounds are also less wasteful, more aware of how much they're consuming, frequently not affluent enough to afford polluting things, will probably have less children than in their original country, and are often hard workers. This, combined with the moral benefit of not leaving people to die, outweighs the carbon cost. The waste from the much larger native-born population is going to far outweigh the waste from foreign-born populations anyway.

Perhaps the immigrants will be less wasteful, but I doubt their Westernized kids and grandkids are going to be the same. No matter which way you cut it, you're still being inconsistent in terms of what you say you want.

And btw, most immigrants who come here are not at risk of dying. They're just poor. Most immigrants aren't refugees. Stop with the fallacious moral dilema.

Poverty doesn't increase the risk of death?

[Saiwania]

The world was not majority white when you were born. Take a chill pill.

As a percentage of world population, the world was Whiter in 1989 than it is in 2019. What causes me concern is that the projections show no signs of stopping the trend of decline, I see no bottom to it unless its 0% or close to it. It is like I'm losing money here and I want to stop the emptying of the account before its all gone, to use an analogy. Just as how the US ignored China's economic superiority for too long, but now is at least pushing back against China under Donald Trump.

[Pacomia]

The world was not majority white when you were born. Take a chill pill.

As a percentage of world population, the world was Whiter in 1989 than it is in 2019. What causes me concern is that the projections show no signs of stopping the trend of decline, I see no bottom to it unless its 0% or close to it. It is like I'm losing money here and I want to stop the emptying of the account before its all gone, to use an analogy. Just as how the US ignored China's economic superiority for too long, but now is at least pushing back against China under Donald Trump.

And what exactly is wrong with more non-white people?

[Otira]

The world was not majority white when you were born. Take a chill pill.

As a percentage of world population, the world was Whiter in 1989 than it is in 2019. What causes me concern is that the projections show no signs of stopping the trend of decline, I see no bottom to it unless its 0% or close to it. It is like I'm losing money here and I want to stop the emptying of the account before its all gone, to use an analogy. Just as how the US ignored China's economic superiority for too long, but now is at least pushing back against China under Donald Trump.

Race is just a social construct bro

[Fartsniffage]

As a percentage of world population, the world was Whiter in 1989 than it is in 2019. What causes me concern is that the projections show no signs of stopping the trend of decline, I see no bottom to it unless its 0% or close to it. It is like I'm losing money here and I want to stop the emptying of the account before its all gone, to use an analogy. Just as how the US ignored China's economic superiority for too long, but now is at least pushing back against China under Donald Trump.

And what exactly is wrong with more non-white people?

They're not white people.

[Ifreann]

I mean, I want to target environmental protection efforts at the industries and corporations that are actually most responsible, and not at individuals. You freaking out at the environmental impact of non-white immigrants having too many non-white children in America is on the same level as people freaking out over plastic straws.

Are you factoring in how the left turning actively hostile to the native population and driving them into the arms of the right wing impacts pollution levels when people like Trump then don't sign paris accords and so on?

*checks notes*
I am not factoring Ostro's anti-left conspiracy, no.

[USS Monitor]

I would rather not have to hear anything someone like you has to say.

The forum has an ignore feature: ucp.php?i=zebra&mode=foes

[Trollgaard]

Sauce

A rally of far-right groups was met by a large counterdemonstration in Portland, Oregon, on Saturday.

Fears that the showdown would turn violent prompted some downtown businesses to close and led to a massive police presence. At least 13 people were arrested, according to Lt. Tina Jones of the Portland Police Bureau.

Six people, including one who was hospitalized, reported minor injuries during the day, police Chief Danielle Outlaw said at news conference.

There were also six "use-of-force" events by officers, she said, mostly involving "take-downs" of suspects, and no one was injured.

The dueling demonstrations garnered national attention, including from President Donald Trump, who tweeted earlier Saturday in reference to self-described anti-fascists, some of whom are known collectively as antifa, “Major consideration is being given to naming ANTIFA an “ORGANIZATION OF TERROR.” Portland is being watched very closely. Hopefully the Mayor will be able to properly do his job!”

Portland police tweeted about 30 minutes after the protests started at 11 a.m. that officers were there to protect people's right to speak freely.

“PPB and our partners are here to protect everyone's safety while facilitating everyone's 1st Amendment right to gather and speak. It is the foundation of our democracy and critical to Portland's identity,” police tweeted.

Officers worked to keep the opposing groups apart and nearly an hour after the demonstrations began police said they had seized weapons from participants including bear spray, shields, and poles.

This is sickening, that Trump didn't comment on the White Supremacists he emboldened as they are big fans of him but instead focused on Antifa, shows who he cares about, the piece of shit he is. He needs to be impeached for the bloodshed he threatened to spill in my city.
Since when is racism populism?

These "protesters" are just white-supremacist terrorists, though legally gangs, and should be treated as such. I am sick of this violent behavior, as a city council candidate I am in increased danger purely for my skin color. This is not ok! This is not normal!
We should be able to live in our state, city, and country without fear of murder due to our skin color not being the dominant one!

We need a new, civic, activist populism. We need a populism of compassion, and tolerance. I not only ask NSG to comment, but to create a thread somewhere for a new, NS-originated group dedicated to stopping this madness(The thread is not going to be the main means, it's just a way to get ns'ers together without creating a discord server which would be a mess).
I am done watching, and I'm doing my part to fight.

But it's time for all of us now to fight, across the country.

Together.

Which organizations are lol white terrorist organizations?

Proud Boys? Lie.

Anyone else?

[Kowani]

The forum has an ignore feature: ucp.php?i=zebra&mode=foes

Keep in mind he said it was due to they're description, if their gender identity, may be flaming.

Already reported it.

[Saiwania]

And what exactly is wrong with more non-white people?

It is a fundamentally zero sum perspective on the world that I have. The math makes it clear to me anyways that a decline in one group necessitates another group's gain. I don't want my own to be declining more than it has to if I can help it. Drives me towards despair this does, at what I'm seeing in the world today.

[Trollgaard]

And are the proud boys even far right? There pretty normal conservatives. Free speech, flags, and Christians for the most part.

FAR RIGHT OMG.

Get a grip.

[United Muscovite Nations]

And what exactly is wrong with more non-white people?

It is a fundamentally zero sum perspective on the world that I have. The math makes it clear to me anyways that a decline in one group necessitates another group's gain. I don't want my own to be declining more than it has to if I can help it. Drives me towards despair this does, at what I'm seeing in the world today.

The groups only exist in our minds.