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Postby Saiwania » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:16 pm

Cekoviu wrote:You cannot "objectively" look white, female, hot, whatever. By its nature, any examination of that is going to be subjective.


If 8 people out of a sample of 10- all agree that someone is White because they appear to be White, and the ancestry checks out- they may as well be accepted as White, even if their family isn't from Europe strictly speaking. The precendent for doing this is in the case of Ashkenazi Jews. Originally, Jews were hated and Europeans wanted them to go away, but they never did until the Holocaust. But because the Jews were in Europe for 1,000+ years or so, over time they procreated with neighboring Europeans to enough of an extent that they became indistinguishably White.

This is quite different from the mass migrations that're happening today where a minority is breeding too much and keeps multiplying until they become the majority as opposed to a minority merely moving into another country but otherwise assimilating and not purposely trying to become the majority that displaces the original ethnic base of a country.

The Jews are said to have gone to Europe to begin with, because of the Roman Empire destroying Jerusalem and pushing them out of their original homeland. It had unintended consequences that were bad for Europe, but it all worked out in the end for the most part. The silver lining is that most Jews have made it back to Israel.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:17 pm

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Cekoviu wrote:You cannot "objectively" look white, female, hot, whatever. By its nature, any examination of that is going to be subjective.


If 8 people out of a sample of 10- all agree that someone is White because they appear to be White, and the ancestry checks out- they may as well be accepted as White, even if their family isn't from Europe strictly speaking. The precendent for doing this is in the case of Ashkenazi Jews. Originally, Jews were hated and Europeans wanted them to go away, but they never did until the Holocaust. But because the Jews were in Europe for 1,000+ years or so, over time they procreated with neighboring Europeans to enough of an extent that they became indistinguishably White.

This is quite different from the mass migrations that're happening today where a minority is breeding too much and keeping multiplying until they become the majority as opposed to a minority merely moving into another country but otherwise assimilating and not purposely trying to become the majority that displaces the original ethnic base of a country.

The Jews are said to have gone to Europe to begin with, because of the Roman Empire destroying Jerusalem and pushing them out of their original homeland. It had unintended consequences that were bad for Europe, but it all worked out in the end for the most part. The silver lining is that most Jews have made it back to Israel.

Yeah...this thread isn't about your racialist bullshit. Nobody cares and its off topic besides.
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Postby Crysuko » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:18 pm

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Cekoviu wrote:You cannot "objectively" look white, female, hot, whatever. By its nature, any examination of that is going to be subjective.


If 8 people out of a sample of 10- all agree that someone is White because they appear to be White, and the ancestry checks out- they may as well be accepted as White, even if their family isn't from Europe strictly speaking. The precendent for doing this is in the case of Ashkenazi Jews. Originally, Jews were hated and Europeans wanted them to go away, but they never did until the Holocaust. But because the Jews were in Europe for 1,000+ years or so, over time they procreated with neighboring Europeans to enough of an extent that they became indistinguishably White.

This is quite different from the mass migrations that're happening today where a minority is breeding too much and keeps multiplying until they become the majority as opposed to a minority merely moving into another country but otherwise assimilating and not purposely trying to become the majority that displaces the original ethnic base of a country.

The Jews are said to have gone to Europe to begin with, because of the Roman Empire destroying Jerusalem and pushing them out of their original homeland. It had unintended consequences that were bad for Europe, but it all worked out in the end for the most part. The silver lining is that most Jews have made it back to Israel.

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Postby Emulation White » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:20 pm

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Whether you do or not is irrelevant, you have a worldview that you are implying you want applied uniformly. That is totalitarian. Whether you see race as legitimate or not is also irrelevant, if a group of people do, why try to dictate them? Why not just live and let live?

...You realize who you're talking to right?


Not really, I've chatted with Kowani briefly before, but as you can see by my post count, I'm not exactly a regular.

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:22 pm

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Emulation White wrote:
Not really, I've chatted with Kowani briefly before, but as you can see by my post count, I'm not exactly a regular.

I'll give you a hint:
"I, am Totalitarian Left, my side, is the best, I realize the last five times we've tried this we all starved to death but I have a really good feeling about the next."

:rofl: :rofl:

That's good stuff.
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If you want to defeat fascists, don't resist them at all. I am very intelligent.


No no, if you want to defeat fascists grab a rifle.

Did they have a lot of rifles lying around in Britain in 1936?

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Postby Emulation White » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:24 pm

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Emulation White wrote:
Not really, I've chatted with Kowani briefly before, but as you can see by my post count, I'm not exactly a regular.

I'll give you a hint:
"I, am Totalitarian Left, my side, is the best, I realize the last five times we've tried this we all starved to death but I have a really good feeling about the next."


:p haha, I looked at his nation. Civil Rights: Below Average
Now it makes sense

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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:25 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Emulation White wrote:
Not really, I've chatted with Kowani briefly before, but as you can see by my post count, I'm not exactly a regular.

I'll give you a hint:
"I, am Totalitarian Left, my side, is the best, I realize the last five times we've tried this we all starved to death but I have a really good feeling about the next."

Man I really wanna sig this.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:27 pm

Ifreann wrote:
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No no, if you want to defeat fascists grab a rifle.

Did they have a lot of rifles lying around in Britain in 1936?


>tfw I'm not one but multiple organizations

Life goal accomplished

Congratulations on your plurality, dudes.

Realistically, how do you suppose Antifa is going to defeat fascists in America?

They already got their asses handed to them in Weimar Germany. What do you think is gonna be different this time?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:27 pm

Ifreann wrote:
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No no, if you want to defeat fascists grab a rifle.

Did they have a lot of rifles lying around in Britain in 1936?


Probably? Afaik British gun laws were fairly lax until the '80's.
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:29 pm

Crysuko wrote:an essay as interesting as it is irrelevent


It is relavant because it is my criteria for when someone who isn't 100% White in terms of racial ancestry should be accepted as White. I'm sure most in the White nationalist crowd feel the same. After all, if we exclude too many people who look White as not being White, Whites will have too narrow of a pool to draw from, and then I'm afraid Whites will be extinct more so than the case would be if our movement is just a bit more flexible.

It of course, doesn't serve the White nationalist movement if someone Black is accepted in because obviously their children would be Black as well. It has to be people whose kids have at least some prospect of passing for Whiteness, should they reproduce.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:31 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Crysuko wrote:an essay as interesting as it is irrelevent


It is relavant because it is my criteria for when someone who isn't 100% White in terms of racial ancestry should be accepted as White. I'm sure most in the White nationalist crowd feel the same. After all, if we exclude too many people who look White as not being White, Whites will have too narrow of a pool to draw from, and then I'm afraid Whites will be extinct more so than the case would be if our movement is just a bit more flexible.

It of course, doesn't serve the White nationalist movement if someone Black is accepted in because obviously their children would be Black as well. It has to be people whose kids have at least some prospect of passing for Whiteness.

Nobody cares. Unless you can relate this trite horshit to the topic, do the rest of us a favor and can it.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:31 pm

I love how almost none of the right-wingers on NS are of the basic bitch normie conservative George Bush/Mitt Romney variety.

Bush seems to have completely discredited that type of conservatism for ever in the eyes of Americans.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:33 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:I love how almost none of the right-wingers on NS are of the basic bitch normie conservative George Bush/Mitt Romney variety.

Bush seems to have completely discredited that type of conservatism for ever in the eyes of Americans.


It's a good sign for the future. Conservatism has more than any ideology barring communism been a complete and total failure. The sooner it stops being mainstream the better.
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:34 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:America is in no danger of whites becoming extinct. Nowhere is. There are more whites alive today that at any time in history.


If the Great Replacement conspiracy has no risk of happening, then why is it clearly happening that most if not all majority White countries are visably becoming more diverse over time, when the same just isn't true for the non-White world broadly speaking?

Why is it that the primarily White and developed nations must carry the burden of accepting in immigration from the developing world, when it is clear to me anyways- that countries like Nigeria aren't becoming diverse or doing the same to any meaningful extent? Instead, they're multiplying too much; and are sending their surplus people overseas to destroy and displace the social fabric of and the people living in the developed nations.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:36 pm

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Bear Stearns wrote:I love how almost none of the right-wingers on NS are of the basic bitch normie conservative George Bush/Mitt Romney variety.

Bush seems to have completely discredited that type of conservatism for ever in the eyes of Americans.


It's a good sign for the future. Conservatism has more than ideology barring communism been a complete and total failure. The sooner it stops being mainstream the better.

This. Neoconservatism has failed ideologically by every conceivable measure. It's ineffective. It exists only to delay neoliberalism.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:36 pm

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Cekoviu wrote:And what are your sources for the crime rates in Appalachia?


Go to page 1 (page 2 of the PDF)

Regional crime rates in Appalachia are lower than those for the nation as a whole.
While the social and economic distress experienced by much of Appalachia
would seem to make the region particularly vulnerable to increasing rates of crime
and violence, crime rates in Appalachia are only about 50 percent (for violent
crime) to 65 percent (for property crime) of the national levels.


https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/189560.pdf

Mhm, so then it's more social than economic. Doesn't really change much.
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Ostroeuropa wrote:America is in no danger of whites becoming extinct. Nowhere is. There are more whites alive today that at any time in history.


If the Great Replacement conspiracy has no risk of happening, then why is it clearly happening that most if not all majority White countries are visably becoming more diverse over time, when the same just isn't true for the non-White world broadly speaking? Why is it that the primarily White and developed nations must carry the burden of accepting in immigration from the developing world?

I want to slam my head on my desk right now. It's because it's the developing world. They're not idiots, they know it's better to live here.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:38 pm

Emulation White wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:...You realize who you're talking to right?


Not really, I've chatted with Kowani briefly before, but as you can see by my post count, I'm not exactly a regular.

Oh, we’re going to have fun.

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Eternal Lotharia wrote:I'll give you a hint:
"I, am Totalitarian Left, my side, is the best, I realize the last five times we've tried this we all starved to death but I have a really good feeling about the next."


:p haha, I looked at his nation. Civil Rights: Below Average
Now it makes sense

I notice that you missed literally all of the other stats.

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Ostroeuropa wrote:America is in no danger of whites becoming extinct. Nowhere is. There are more whites alive today that at any time in history.


If the Great Replacement conspiracy has no risk of happening, then why is it clearly happening that most if not all majority White countries are visably becoming more diverse over time, when the same just isn't true for the non-White world broadly speaking? Why is it that the primarily White and developed nations must carry the burden of accepting in immigration from the developing world?

Who wants to immigrate to Qatar?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:38 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:I love how almost none of the right-wingers on NS are of the basic bitch normie conservative George Bush/Mitt Romney variety.

Bush seems to have completely discredited that type of conservatism for ever in the eyes of Americans.

He said he fears being the last Republican President.

In a way, he was right.


Good riddance. Those types of Republicans were terrible.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:39 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It's a good sign for the future. Conservatism has more than ideology barring communism been a complete and total failure. The sooner it stops being mainstream the better.

This. Neoconservatism has failed ideologically by every conceivable measure. It's ineffective. It exists only to delay neoliberalism.


It's also sort of evil lol.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:39 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:America is in no danger of whites becoming extinct. Nowhere is. There are more whites alive today that at any time in history.


If the Great Replacement conspiracy has no risk of happening, then why is it clearly happening that most if not all majority White countries are visably becoming more diverse over time, when the same just isn't true for the non-White world broadly speaking? Why is it that the primarily White and developed nations must carry the burden of accepting in immigration from the developing world, when it is clear to me anyways- that countries like Nigeria aren't becoming diverse or doing the same to any meaningful extent?

Instead, they multiplying too much; and are sending their surplus people overseas to displace the people living in developed nations.

Because a great many leftists seem to believe that they can create some sort of multi-ethnic utopia. They want whites to have lower birthrates.

Why do you think they demand we have less kids while simultaneously demanding we let in immigrants who statistically have more kids than the average citizen?

It's insanity that's only going to lead to further Balkanization in America.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:40 pm

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Good riddance. Those types of Republicans were terrible.

It was Reagan's fault you know.

Sadly, I can't approve of this type of Republicanism either.

Why can't they just be Christian Democrats? I'd be down for that!

You mean like Merkel?

No fucking thanks.
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Postby Crysuko » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:41 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
If the Great Replacement conspiracy has no risk of happening, then why is it clearly happening that most if not all majority White countries are visably becoming more diverse over time, when the same just isn't true for the non-White world broadly speaking? Why is it that the primarily White and developed nations must carry the burden of accepting in immigration from the developing world, when it is clear to me anyways- that countries like Nigeria aren't becoming diverse or doing the same to any meaningful extent?

Instead, they multiplying too much; and are sending their surplus people overseas to displace the people living in developed nations.

Because a great many leftists seem to believe that they can create some sort of multi-ethnic utopia. They want whites to have lower birthrates.

Why do you think they demand we have less kids while simultaneously demanding we let in immigrants who statistically have more kids than the average citizen?

It's insanity that's only going to lead to further Balkanization in America.

where does it say in any leftist theory that whites should have lower birthrates
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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:42 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
If the Great Replacement conspiracy has no risk of happening, then why is it clearly happening that most if not all majority White countries are visably becoming more diverse over time, when the same just isn't true for the non-White world broadly speaking? Why is it that the primarily White and developed nations must carry the burden of accepting in immigration from the developing world, when it is clear to me anyways- that countries like Nigeria aren't becoming diverse or doing the same to any meaningful extent?

Instead, they multiplying too much; and are sending their surplus people overseas to displace the people living in developed nations.

Because a great many leftists seem to believe that they can create some sort of multi-ethnic utopia. They want whites to have lower birthrates.

Why do you think they demand we have less kids while simultaneously demanding we let in immigrants who statistically have more kids than the average citizen?

It's insanity that's only going to lead to further Balkanization in America.

Literally who?
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:42 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:You cannot "objectively" look white, female, hot, whatever. By its nature, any examination of that is going to be subjective.


If 8 people out of a sample of 10

How is this sample selected? Details, please. Your sampling algorithm is of great interest to me.
- all agree that someone is White because they appear to be White, and the ancestry checks out-

How would the ancestry "check out"? Does this panel also look at every single ancestor of the person and ensure that all of them are WhiteTM?
they may as well be accepted as White, even if their family isn't from Europe strictly speaking.

Nobody's family is all from Europe. Literally every human on Earth has African ancestors.
The precendent for doing this is in the case of Ashkenazi Jews. Originally, Jews were hated and Europeans wanted them to go away, but they never did until the Holocaust. But because the Jews were in Europe for 1,000+ years or so, over time they procreated with neighboring Europeans to enough of an extent that they became indistinguishably White.

What was the point at which they became white? Again, please give complex details on your methodology.
This is quite different from the mass migrations that're happening today where a minority is breeding too much and keeps multiplying until they become the majority

Daily reminder that this has not happened except in tiny countries and unorganized groups of societies.
as opposed to a minority merely moving into another country but otherwise assimilating and not purposely trying to become the majority that displaces the original ethnic base of a country.

I assume you strongly support interracial relationships, then? Gotta have that assimilation, after all.
The Jews are said to have gone to Europe to begin with, because of the Roman Empire destroying Jerusalem and pushing them out of their original homeland. It had unintended consequences that were bad for Europe, but it all worked out in the end for the most part. The silver lining is that most Jews have made it back to Israel.

It all worked out in the end? Are you aware of Holocaust denial, Palestine, and neo-Nazis vandalizing and shooting up synagogues?
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