Fascist White Supremacist Rally in Portland Thwarted

[Nova Cyberia]

Let's see, what does Antifa do:
[] stop fascism
[] stop racism
[] stop white supremacism
[x] assault trash cans and liberals carrying the US flag

[The American Free States]

What are we even supposed to be debating about anymore?

I don’t know, this has just turned into Online Portland

[Makersaulache]

Can we all agree violence is wrong?

[Bear Stearns]

Oh, boy.

I refer to the words of Rep. Dan Crenshaw of Texas to summarize my feelings on the matter:

"In Hong Kong, antifascists wave American flags, demand freedom and actually fight fascists. In Portland, 'antifascists' burn American flags, demand violence in the name of socialism."

As a left-leaning centrist, I very much hate fascism. But the only thing I'll ever hate more than the fascists is Antifa.

Both of these groups should be locked up, if you ask me.

More accurately, the person on the left would just be expressing a generic right-wing opinion, and the antifa person would be threatening to kill him for being a Nazi.

[Nakena]

What are we even supposed to be debating about anymore?

I don’t know, this has just turned into Online Portland

Battles of NSG - Portland 2019

[The American Free States]

Can we all agree violence is wrong?

Yes

[Emulation White]

I'm curious, who is this group of "Fascist White Supremacists"? Anybody have any information or is this just hyperbole/misrepresentation?

[Nakena]

I'm curious, who is this group of "Fascist White Supremacists"? Anybody have any information or is this just hyperbole/misrepresentation?

Supposedly the Proud Boys.

[The American Free States]

I don’t know, this has just turned into Online Portland

Battles of NSG - Portland 2019

Yep

[Kowani]

I know.

We got LBJ.

Who...eh, civil rights movement, that makes up for it...I guess...

I'm not condoning murder. We still got good presidents from assassinations though.

Frankly, Teddy Roosevelt was like, necessary imo. So I don't hold much against the anarchists for that.

Poor JFK...

Lyndon Johnson was a corrupt, warmongering psychopath. But what metric was a he a good president? There was widespread social unrest during his presidency and he bogged the US down in unwinnable, unnecessary wars.

What was-the Great Society?

[The South Falls]

You talking about the 1848 revolutions? Those weren't communism, the majority of them were removing autocratic leaders.

No, I'm not talking about the 1848 revolutions. More along the lines of the Paris Commune.

That was more of a continuation of the prusso-french war, or at least an opportunity call by the communists. Was it violent, yes, but it was more of a war than a targeting of fascists or right wing groups. And I could then keep the gotcha streak going by saying they were in reaction to the end of the war and the fleeing of the French government

[Nakena]

Lyndon Johnson was a corrupt, warmongering psychopath. But what metric was a he a good president? There was widespread social unrest during his presidency and he bogged the US down in unwinnable, unnecessary wars.

What was-the Great Society?

What was Hart-Celler?

[Bear Stearns]

Lyndon Johnson was a corrupt, warmongering psychopath. But what metric was a he a good president? There was widespread social unrest during his presidency and he bogged the US down in unwinnable, unnecessary wars.

What was-the Great Society?

A huge failure.

[Kowani]

Can we all agree violence is wrong?

No.

[Bear Stearns]

What was-the Great Society?

What was Hart-Celler?

Treason.

[Nova Cyberia]

I'm curious, who is this group of "Fascist White Supremacists"? Anybody have any information or is this just hyperbole/misrepresentation?

Here are your links. Be warned though, there are gonna be a lot of them here:

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... t-violence
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-the-p ... nal-army-6
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nat ... story.html
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/pr ... ard-signs/
https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-divisio ... s-patriots
https://apnews.com/964cc747d67e4ae6863b ... ve-speaker
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... and-oregon
https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtow ... the-year-p
https://newrepublic.com/article/145192/ ... s-massacre
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... tionalists
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nypd-look ... ttan-fight
https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/gavin ... -supremacy
https://www.wired.com/2017/05/field-guide-far-right/

Link spam is still not helpful.

[Cerinda]

the communists have JFK.

I don't really buy the lone gunman theory (though Oswald was a communist).

I think the strongest evidence points to Lyndon Johnson just being a power hungry psychopath or organized crime (the Kennedys were corrupt and shady as shit).

I have a theory it was actually his wife who wanted revenge for all the times he cheated.

The Hong Kong protesters aren't anti fascists, the Chinese and Hong Kong governments are not fascist, that's not a good comparison.

Also Dan Crenshaw is a gigantic piece of shit, but that's for another thread.

he is an former SEAL and has an eyepatch.

he seems like a nice guy.

I won't de-rail the thread any more by talking about him but let's just say some of his views, especially those on LGBT people makes him a huge piece of shit.

The Hong Kong protesters aren't anti fascists, the Chinese and Hong Kong governments are not fascist, that's not a good comparison.

Also Dan Crenshaw is a gigantic piece of shit, but that's for another thread.

The PRC government is a totalitarian bolshevist entity.

1. China is a capitalist country, just because it calls itself communist, doesn't mean it is.
2. Do people still use the word 'Bolshevik'? I thought that died off in the late 40s.

[The South Falls]

I'm curious, who is this group of "Fascist White Supremacists"? Anybody have any information or is this just hyperbole/misrepresentation?

There are provided sources for this.

[Nova Cyberia]

No.

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*Slaps*


Civil violence by protesters against other people is wrong. We shouldn't behave like gangs.

Then why in the unholy fuck do you continue to defend Antifa?

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

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You're being too generous to Antifa. I like the meme though.

IMHO, there is nothing worse than someone who actually advocates Hitlerism and other affiliated wingnuttery, even though battles between Antifa and white supremacists erupt more often than not. The Nazis have butchered my country like an animal, staged a literal false flag
terrorist attack and then used it as a excuse to attack Poland, and were responsible for a war that led to the deaths of more than 85 million people, far above any damage the Antifa may have caused during their counter-demonstrations. And I am supposed to leave these people free to gradually fester their poison upon modern society, often with deadly consequences as we saw in Orlando, Charlottesville, Christchurch, El Paso,
and Pittsburgh.

[Bear Stearns]

I don't really buy the lone gunman theory (though Oswald was a communist).

I think the strongest evidence points to Lyndon Johnson just being a power hungry psychopath or organized crime (the Kennedys were corrupt and shady as shit).

I have a theory it was actually his wife who wanted revenge for all the times he cheated.

Idk, but I found the way she milked it and created the whole "Camelot" myth to be tacky and pretty stupid.

[The South Falls]

No.

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*Slaps*


Civil violence by protesters against other people is wrong. We shouldn't behave like gangs.

This should be patently obvious.

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*Slaps*


Civil violence by protesters against other people is wrong. We shouldn't behave like gangs.

Then why in the unholy fuck do you continue to defend Antifa?

He's not condoning their tactics, merely their aims

[Castelia]

Alright, what I find really disagreeable with Antifa is their use of violence to achieve their goals. It's literally no different from the fascists. If you tell me that I have to condone Antifa beating up people just because "fash is bad, lol", I won't.

[Loben The 2nd]

the dayton shooter was a warren supporter.....

[Nova Cyberia]

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*Slaps*


Civil violence by protesters against other people is wrong. We shouldn't behave like gangs.

This should be patently obvious.

Then why in the unholy fuck do you continue to defend Antifa?

He's not condoning their tactics, merely their aims

It's a bit hard to separate their tactics from the aims.