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Ifreann wrote:Well for one, no, you're the one labelling people "ANTIFA". Like, you're very consistent about using all caps, as if it's an acronym. Whereas I, craven leftist beta, either write it all uncapitalised, like any common noun, or use sTuPiD CAps to take the piss out of how some people insist on treating it like a proper noun(Antifa), a portmanteau of proper nouns(AntiFa), or an acronym(ANTIFA). Not to mention how it is exclusively people opposed to antifa who insist that antifa is an organisation.

Man, with your heavy breathing at that fascist rally from the 30s and this advocacy for mass incarceration of your political opponents, I'm getting a little worried here.

People in ANTIFA literally refer to themselves in that way. You act as if I made the term up but there's literally a verified Twitter account called Antifa International so it's basically a noun at this point, a label that ANTIFA members give to their own organisation and political movement.

And don't twist my words. Pointing out the elegance and discipline in the Bund's MSG rally doesn't mean I support their ideas. I hate Communists with a burning passion, but even I can admire the regimentation of a Soviet military parade or how interesting the Red Guard uniforms looked. Appreciating aesthetics is not the same as subscribing to their ideas.

I also don't support 'mass incarceration of your political opponents'. People who are peaceful and non-violent and not members of a dangerous terrorist group should not be locked up, but domestic homegrown terrorists should go to jail. Is that crazy? Terrorists should go to jail? I guess that's an extreme position now. Go figure.

New haven america wrote:

Nova Cyberia wrote:I can interpret it based upon your own words lmao.

This is unbiased. I am very intelligent.

I was simply stating he fact at hand. If you choose to view it as me saying that "All righties are bad" then I can't stop you from thinking that, and I don't really care to do so either.

No, you're talking out of your ass and pretending it's factual, my young white friend.

New haven america wrote:

Purgatio wrote:
Exactly, lock them all up, throw away the key. America will be much safer for it

Meanwhile, right wing groups still accounted for 87% of all terrorist actions in the US in 2018.

And this means elements of Antifa aren't a problem how, exactly?

Nova Cyberia wrote:

New haven america wrote:I was simply stating he fact at hand. If you choose to view it as me saying that "All righties are bad" then I can't stop you from thinking that, and I don't really care to do so either.

No, you're talking out of your ass and pretending it's factual, my young white friend.

If that's what you choose to believe, then that's what you choose to believe.

New haven america wrote:

Nova Cyberia wrote:No, you're talking out of your ass and pretending it's factual, my young white friend.

If that's what you choose to believe, then that's what you choose to believe.

Right now I'm choosing to believe that you're backpedaling after making a fallacious argument.

It's actually pretty funny. Keep going.

Nova Cyberia wrote:

New haven america wrote:If that's what you choose to believe, then that's what you choose to believe.

Right now I'm choosing to believe that you're backpedaling after making a fallacious argument.

It's actually pretty funny. Keep going.

If you say so.

Purgatio wrote:I also don't support 'mass incarceration of your political opponents'. People who are peaceful and non-violent and not members of a dangerous terrorist group should not be locked up

Purgatio wrote:

Huanguo wrote:Association with Antifa is a terrorist act and should not be tolerated

Exactly, lock them all up, throw away the key. America will be much safer for it

Please pick one.

Necroghastia wrote:

Purgatio wrote:I also don't support 'mass incarceration of your political opponents'. People who are peaceful and non-violent and not members of a dangerous terrorist group should not be locked up

Purgatio wrote:
Exactly, lock them all up, throw away the key. America will be much safer for it

Please pick one.

No, because they don't contradict. ANTIFA is a dangerous terrorist group that seeks to inflict violence on their political opponents, and every member of this hate group deserves to be locked up for domestic terrorism.

Necroghastia wrote:

Purgatio wrote:I also don't support 'mass incarceration of your political opponents'. People who are peaceful and non-violent and not members of a dangerous terrorist group should not be locked up

Purgatio wrote:
Exactly, lock them all up, throw away the key. America will be much safer for it

Please pick one.

God I can see this quickly turning into a way for the government to declare martial law and take away our rights. Claim anyone who protests against the elite is either a white supremacist or a communist and arrest them for "extremism"

Purgatio wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:
Please pick one.

No, because they don't contradict. ANTIFA is a dangerous terrorist group

Nope.

that seeks to inflict violence on their political opponents,

Source?

and every member

How does one become a member of antifa?

of this hate group

Please define "hate group."

deserves to be locked up for domestic terrorism.

Even those who have committed no crimes? Unless you're going to tell me every person who identifies as antifascist is a criminal, in which case, what charge?

Ifreann wrote:

Purgatio wrote:
They have a logo, they have their own political label and they attend rallies under the self-described label of ANTIFA

Well for one, no, you're the one labelling people "ANTIFA". Like, you're very consistent about using all caps, as if it's an acronym. Whereas I, craven leftist beta, either write it all uncapitalised, like any common noun, or use sTuPiD CAps to take the piss out of how some people insist on treating it like a proper noun(Antifa), a portmanteau of proper nouns(AntiFa), or an acronym(ANTIFA). Not to mention how it is exclusively people opposed to antifa who insist that antifa is an organisation.

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Scomagia wrote:I'd go with the goodfaith assumption that they are mistaken, not lying.

Is it really good faith to assume ignorance?

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Bear Stearns wrote:If antifa considered all people who are nominally opposed to fascism (an extremely broad group of people on both the right and the left), then why do they also oppose normie conservatives?

Antifa is a thing one can do, if one so wishes, not a thing one is.

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Loben The 2nd wrote:
because they are wanna be revolutionaries.

The American dream.

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Purgatio wrote:
Exactly, lock them all up, throw away the key. America will be much safer for it

Man, with your heavy breathing at that fascist rally from the 30s and this advocacy for mass incarceration of your political opponents, I'm getting a little worried here.

No, no. A goodfaith assumption means you assume goodfaith from the other side. Ignorance and goodfaith posting are not mutually exclusive. Lying and goodfaith posting, on the other hand...

Rojava Free State wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:
Please pick one.

God I can see this quickly turning into a way for the government to declare martial law and take away our rights. Claim anyone who protests against the elite is either a white supremacist or a communist and arrest them for "extremism"

That is entirely within the realm of possibility. If the fringe jackasses don't quit, normal people might tolerate a bit of repression if it makes them go away.

Let's hope that doesn't happen.

Purgatio wrote:

Ifreann wrote:Well for one, no, you're the one labelling people "ANTIFA". Like, you're very consistent about using all caps, as if it's an acronym. Whereas I, craven leftist beta, either write it all uncapitalised, like any common noun, or use sTuPiD CAps to take the piss out of how some people insist on treating it like a proper noun(Antifa), a portmanteau of proper nouns(AntiFa), or an acronym(ANTIFA). Not to mention how it is exclusively people opposed to antifa who insist that antifa is an organisation.

Man, with your heavy breathing at that fascist rally from the 30s and this advocacy for mass incarceration of your political opponents, I'm getting a little worried here.

People in ANTIFA literally refer to themselves in that way. You act as if I made the term up but there's literally a verified Twitter account called Antifa International so it's basically a noun at this point, a label that ANTIFA members give to their own organisation and political movement.

I'm not saying that you invented the word "antifa". I'm saying that you weirdly insist on using all caps to refer to all people doin' an antifa, something anti-fascists themselves do not do. I don't dispute that some groups to include the word "antifa" in their names to get across how they do an antifa. But look at your example. "Antifa International". Not "ANTIFA International". And incidentally, @antifaintl is not a verified account.

And don't twist my words. Pointing out the elegance and discipline in the Bund's MSG rally doesn't mean I support their ideas. I hate Communists with a burning passion, but even I can admire the regimentation of a Soviet military parade or how interesting the Red Guard uniforms looked. Appreciating aesthetics is not the same as subscribing to their ideas.

I just said I'm a little worried.

I also don't support 'mass incarceration of your political opponents'. People who are peaceful and non-violent and not members of a dangerous terrorist group should not be locked up, but domestic homegrown terrorists should go to jail. Is that crazy? Terrorists should go to jail? I guess that's an extreme position now. Go figure.

A sentence of life without parole for the entirely legal crime of associating with people of a given political persuasion who may or may not themselves have broken some law or laws is mass incarceration of your political opponents.

Scomagia wrote:

Ifreann wrote:Well for one, no, you're the one labelling people "ANTIFA". Like, you're very consistent about using all caps, as if it's an acronym. Whereas I, craven leftist beta, either write it all uncapitalised, like any common noun, or use sTuPiD CAps to take the piss out of how some people insist on treating it like a proper noun(Antifa), a portmanteau of proper nouns(AntiFa), or an acronym(ANTIFA). Not to mention how it is exclusively people opposed to antifa who insist that antifa is an organisation.

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Is it really good faith to assume ignorance?

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Antifa is a thing one can do, if one so wishes, not a thing one is.

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The American dream.

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Man, with your heavy breathing at that fascist rally from the 30s and this advocacy for mass incarceration of your political opponents, I'm getting a little worried here.

No, no. A goodfaith assumption means you assume goodfaith from the other side. Ignorance and goodfaith posting are not mutually exclusive. Lying and goodfaith posting, on the other hand...

Your point is fair and valid, and I cannot dispute it.

Therefore I hate you.

Antifa is a far left organization that should be designated as a domestic 1error organization by the US president. They use intimidation, violence and other means to achieve their goals which fall more in line with a fascist organization than so-called "anti-fascist" as they claim.

I don't like Antifa

The Black Horns wrote:Antifa is a far left organization that should be designated as a domestic 1error organization by the US President.

On what basis? And how is it an "organization?"

The Black Horns wrote:Antifa is a far left organization that should be designated as a domestic 1error organization by the US President.

For the last time, Antifa is not an organization but an ideological umbrella term that several groups subscribe to.

The Black Horns wrote:Antifa is a far left organization that should be designated as a domestic 1error organization by the US President.

Antifa isn’t an organization, but some of its affiliated organizations definitely warrant the terrorist status, namely Rose City Antifa and Smash Racism DC

Other than that, I don’t know what a 1error organization is

Assaulting journalists and attacking bystanders who have nothing to do with planned protests (this past Portland weekend) is more than warranted.

The Black Horns wrote:Assaulting journalists and attacking bystanders who have nothing to do with planned protests (this past Portland weekend) is more than warranted.

Does anyone actually bother defending Antifa anymore?

Aureumterra wrote:

The Black Horns wrote:Assaulting journalists and attacking bystanders who have nothing to do with planned protests (this past Portland weekend) is more than warranted.

Does anyone actually bother defending Antifa anymore?

This thread is on page 33.

Purgatio wrote:

Ifreann wrote:Well for one, no, you're the one labelling people "ANTIFA". Like, you're very consistent about using all caps, as if it's an acronym. Whereas I, craven leftist beta, either write it all uncapitalised, like any common noun, or use sTuPiD CAps to take the piss out of how some people insist on treating it like a proper noun(Antifa), a portmanteau of proper nouns(AntiFa), or an acronym(ANTIFA). Not to mention how it is exclusively people opposed to antifa who insist that antifa is an organisation.

Man, with your heavy breathing at that fascist rally from the 30s and this advocacy for mass incarceration of your political opponents, I'm getting a little worried here.

People in ANTIFA literally refer to themselves in that way. You act as if I made the term up but there's literally a verified Twitter account called Antifa International so it's basically a noun at this point, a label that ANTIFA members give to their own organisation and political movement.

...the Twitter account is not all capitalized, lmao.

Ifreann wrote:

Aureumterra wrote:Does anyone actually bother defending Antifa anymore?

This thread is on page 33.

In a bit more than 12 hours. It's great.

Ifreann wrote:

Aureumterra wrote:Does anyone actually bother defending Antifa anymore?

This thread is on page 33.

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