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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:39 pm

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Antifascism = anti-American now, really?


Pictured: Large scale anti-American hatred.


Isn’t that a photo of D-Day?
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Postby Purgatio » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:39 pm

Ifreann wrote:
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You're talking about the Madison Square Garden rally, right? That one looked grand and amazing, honestly the American Nazis of the 1930s like the Bund were so much grander and elegant and just better at this than neo-Nazis in America today. Just throwing that out there.
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Needs more anti-fascists.


But the discipline, grandeur and organisation is breathtaking is it not?
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Postby Holdumborkafs » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:39 pm

They should all be rounded up and exterminated.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:40 pm

Purgatio wrote:
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Antifascism = anti-American now, really?


You can oppose fascism without supporting violence against peaceful people who haven't attacked you. I oppose fascism by debating their views in the free marketplace of ideas, not punching them in the streets


Sure, but you’re the one claiming they are all anti-American.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:40 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Antifascism = anti-American now, really?


Pictured: Large scale anti-American hatred.


Uh huh. So why does ANTIFA attack US military veterans then?

And you know damn well that the ANTIFA we see on the streets is not part of the same movement/group as US military in World War II.
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Postby Purgatio » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:42 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
You can oppose fascism without supporting violence against peaceful people who haven't attacked you. I oppose fascism by debating their views in the free marketplace of ideas, not punching them in the streets


Sure, but you’re the one claiming they are all anti-American.


When you are member of a domestic terrorist group that has attacked veterans and Marine recruitment centres, you are obviously anti-American. Even if you could find a single parishioner in Westboro Baptist Church that hasn't specifically and physically protested at veterans' funerals, being a member of an organisation that actively does that means you probably hate your country.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:42 pm

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Scomagia wrote:Imagine thinking China isn't still aiming for Socialism.

It's not, it abandoned socialism after the death of Mao and has embraced the free market and privatisation.

Ha. Bullshit. The guiding ideology now is Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, a mealy mouthed title for a process of manipulating the capitalist system until China has a suitable position to implement Socialism. That is literally the goal right now. They've adapted their methods based on the failures of the past but they have not abandoned the Utopian Socialist vision. Read up on Xi Jingping Thought, Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, and the new Chinese Dream. It's all spelled out pretty clear.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:42 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:


Isn’t that a photo of D-Day?


That's the joke.
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Postby Purgatio » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:43 pm

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Uh huh. So why does ANTIFA attack US military veterans then?

And you know damn well that the ANTIFA we see on the streets is not part of the same movement/group as US military in World War II.


Not to mention, I feel this isn't mentioned enough: the US actions against Nazi Germany were 100% in self-defense. It was the Nazis that declared war on the US, not the other way round. The US was defending itself against a direct threat. Whereas ANTIFA goes around punching peaceful and non-violent people who hold a different political opinion from them, the violence is in no way defensive but unprovoked.
Purgatio is an absolutist hereditary monarchy run as a one-party fascist dictatorship, which seized power in a sudden and abrupt coup d'état of 1987-1988, on an authoritarian eugenic and socially Darwinistic political philosophy and ideology, now ruled and dominated with a brutal iron fist under the watchful reign of Le Grand Roi Chalon-Arlay de la Fayette and La Grande Reine Geneviève de la Fayette (née Aumont) (i.e., the 'Founding Couple' or Le Couple Fondateur).

For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:43 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Sure, but you’re the one claiming they are all anti-American.


When you are member of a domestic terrorist group that has attacked veterans and Marine recruitment centres, you are obviously anti-American. Even if you could find a single parishioner in Westboro Baptist Church that hasn't specifically and physically protested at veterans' funerals, being a member of an organisation that actively does that means you probably hate your country.


Antifa is not an organization. There are groups who are Antifa but the ideology is not a centralized organization.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:43 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Isn’t that a photo of D-Day?


That's the joke.

Pretty unoriginal.
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Postby Purgatio » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:43 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
When you are member of a domestic terrorist group that has attacked veterans and Marine recruitment centres, you are obviously anti-American. Even if you could find a single parishioner in Westboro Baptist Church that hasn't specifically and physically protested at veterans' funerals, being a member of an organisation that actively does that means you probably hate your country.


Antifa is not an organization. There are groups who are Antifa but the ideology is not a centralized organization.


If you love your country you wouldn't join ANTIFA knowing its ideology and track record
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For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:45 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Antifa is not an organization. There are groups who are Antifa but the ideology is not a centralized organization.


If you love your country you wouldn't join ANTIFA knowing its ideology and track record


I have an issue with lumping everyone on a same category when I’m aware that not all people who are Antifa in ideology believe the same thing.
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Postby Purgatio » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:46 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
If you love your country you wouldn't join ANTIFA knowing its ideology and track record


I have an issue with lumping everyone on a same category when I’m aware that not all people who are Antifa in ideology believe the same thing.


Whats so hard to grasp? ANTIFA smashed a Marine recruitment centre and attacks Marine veterans. If you join ANTIFA, you must despise your country and all who live in it.
Purgatio is an absolutist hereditary monarchy run as a one-party fascist dictatorship, which seized power in a sudden and abrupt coup d'état of 1987-1988, on an authoritarian eugenic and socially Darwinistic political philosophy and ideology, now ruled and dominated with a brutal iron fist under the watchful reign of Le Grand Roi Chalon-Arlay de la Fayette and La Grande Reine Geneviève de la Fayette (née Aumont) (i.e., the 'Founding Couple' or Le Couple Fondateur).

For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:47 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Uh huh. So why does ANTIFA attack US military veterans then?

And you know damn well that the ANTIFA we see on the streets is not part of the same movement/group as US military in World War II.


Not to mention, I feel this isn't mentioned enough: the US actions against Nazi Germany were 100% in self-defense. It was the Nazis that declared war on the US, not the other way round. The US was defending itself against a direct threat. Whereas ANTIFA goes around punching peaceful and non-violent people who hold a different political opinion from them, the violence is in no way defensive but unprovoked.


Also the way the US conducted its war against Japan was quite the opposite of anti-fascism lol
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:48 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I have an issue with lumping everyone on a same category when I’m aware that not all people who are Antifa in ideology believe the same thing.


Whats so hard to grasp? ANTIFA smashed a Marine recruitment centre and attacks Marine veterans. If you join ANTIFA, you must despise your country and all who live in it.


One of their chants literally includes the line "no USA at all".

Like how much more on the nose can you be?
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:48 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I have an issue with lumping everyone on a same category when I’m aware that not all people who are Antifa in ideology believe the same thing.


Whats so hard to grasp? ANTIFA smashed a Marine recruitment centre and attacks Marine veterans. If you join ANTIFA, you must despise your country and all who live in it.

Look, I despise Antifa violence. I also recognize that Antifa is poorly defined and that there is no consensus within Antifa about...much of anything, really. You need to understand that Antifa is an umbrella sort of like Christian. You get a rough idea from the title but the devil is in the details when you start to look deeper.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:49 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I have an issue with lumping everyone on a same category when I’m aware that not all people who are Antifa in ideology believe the same thing.


Whats so hard to grasp? ANTIFA smashed a Marine recruitment centre and attacks Marine veterans. If you join ANTIFA, you must despise your country and all who live in it.


I’m wondering why you are unable to grasp the simple concept that just because some people who are Antifa did that, not everyone who is Antifa is Anti-American. Some are, I don’t doubt it. I just DO NOT LUMP every Antifa person in the same category because they are not a homogeneous mass.
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Postby Cerinda » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:49 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Cerinda wrote:It's not, it abandoned socialism after the death of Mao and has embraced the free market and privatisation.

Ha. Bullshit. The guiding ideology now is Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, a mealy mouthed title for a process of manipulating the capitalist system until China has a suitable position to implement Socialism. That is literally the goal right now. They've adapted their methods based on the failures of the past but they have not abandoned the Utopian Socialist vision. Read up on Xi Jingping Thought, Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, and the new Chinese Dream. It's all spelled out pretty clear.

Just because it call itself socialist, doesn't mean it is. I forgot when socialism is having large corporations, private property, sweatshops, and suicide prevention nets. My god, the Chinese government must be so big brained that implementing capitalist reforms will help achieve a socialist paradise, clearly Einstein level intelligence.

Of course this perfectly ignores that socialism is worker's ownership of the means of production which China doesn't have.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:49 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Antifascism = anti-American now, really?


Pictured: Large scale anti-American hatred.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:51 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Needs more anti-fascists.


But the discipline, grandeur and organisation is breathtaking is it not?

It is not.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:53 pm

Cerinda wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Ha. Bullshit. The guiding ideology now is Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, a mealy mouthed title for a process of manipulating the capitalist system until China has a suitable position to implement Socialism. That is literally the goal right now. They've adapted their methods based on the failures of the past but they have not abandoned the Utopian Socialist vision. Read up on Xi Jingping Thought, Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, and the new Chinese Dream. It's all spelled out pretty clear.

Just because it call itself socialist, doesn't mean it is. I forgot when socialism is having large corporations, private property, sweatshops, and suicide prevention nets. My god, the Chinese government must be so big brained that implementing capitalist reforms will help achieve a socialist paradise, clearly Einstein level intelligence.

Of course this perfectly ignores that socialism is worker's ownership of the means of production which China doesn't have.

Did you even read bro? They are implementing quasi capitalist policies to achieve their long goal, which is and always has been Socialism. Go read up on the current party thought, they are fucking spelling it out dude.

In any case, this is a derail.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:56 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Imagine thinking China is Bolsheviks.

Imagine thinking China isn't still aiming for Socialism.

Imagine thinking Bolshevism is the same thing as socialism.
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Postby Purgatio » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:56 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
Whats so hard to grasp? ANTIFA smashed a Marine recruitment centre and attacks Marine veterans. If you join ANTIFA, you must despise your country and all who live in it.


I’m wondering why you are unable to grasp the simple concept that just because some people who are Antifa did that, not everyone who is Antifa is Anti-American. Some are, I don’t doubt it. I just DO NOT LUMP every Antifa person in the same category because they are not a homogeneous mass.


Because you can apply that same logic to any anti-American group. "He's in ISIS because he likes the ideas, but he's never committed any anti-American attacks, not personally, other members of ISIS have but don't lump them all together."

Fact is, ANTIFA has committed anti-American attacks and anyone who joins them must hate American and be a disloyal traitor too.
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For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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Postby Magnus Germania » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:58 pm

They're a pathetic group of costumed, cowardly thugs who claim to be "revolutionaries" when they're really unemployed children brainwashed by the System into hating America. They are literally funded by George Soros, the one behind all this liberal/globalist garbage. They're basically the footsoldiers of Globalism. They're not even terrorists, that'd be complimenting them too much. We should just do away with them completely and rid Western society of them.
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