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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:39 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Not necessarily opposing antifa. If you oppose fascism in other ways when it comes up, but disagree with Antifa’s methods, you are not complicit. It’s as if antifa was the Black Panthers and you were a marcher with MLK. You’re not complicit in Jim Crow. But the white guy who sits on the street, watching, and doesn’t do something? He’s complicit.

That's absurd. No one is complicit just for not joining in a protest.

Wrong.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:40 am

Scherzinger wrote:
Liriena wrote:I'm not "trying to imply" anything. You are obstinately trying to put words in my mouth and projecting motivations onto me.

Ngo's work as an "anti-antifa" journalist deserves to be criticized. If you gave a single solitary cuss about nuance, truth and fairness, rather than be so obsessed with virtue signalling and emotional pearl-clutching in a debate thread, you might have noticed that I've been very explicit about my dislike for violence not carried out in self-defense. This isn't me trying to justify the assault on Ngo. This is me rejecting the stupid notion that we cannot discuss the ways in which Ngo has acted like a grifter, propagandist and provocateur, which are relevant to this discussion regardless of what happened to him.

This is akin to saying that we could not criticize Hillary Clinton's work and ideas if she happened to be assaulted by a political opponent.

Empathy is good, but it should not be an unreasonable obstacle to finding the truth.


*looks at profile, sees hes an idiot socialist*

yeah....not gonna take a word of what you say seriously

Personal insults are not arguments. But thanks.
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Postby Scherzinger » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:40 am

Ifreann wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
Yes, yes, yes, hospitalisation is funny, let's mock the injured guy. That seems humane.

How very dare you, sir. I was once hospitalised myself, and I would never mock those who experienced the same struggle I did. So much for the tolerant right.


Purgatio wrote:For those who say ANTIFA just attacks fascists, please take note that if that's the case, the following are fascists:

...A gay Asian journalist...

Consider the following:
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Ernst Röhm, Stabschef of the Sturmabteilung and Gay

A fascist, y/n?


in regards to Ernst Röhm, its a bad argument. At this point, most people believe anybody who donned the swastika was as bad as the people doing the real bad stuff. Even if you were a soldier forced into service at the risk of your family and own life. I agree that antifa does as it pleases, but this is not a solid argument against the people who 'low-key' idolize these beliefs
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:40 am

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Yes.

You shouldn't comment on things you're ignorant about.

Paywall.

But whatever. I'll assume the worst. That still doesn't make the general cause of antifascism bad. Fascism is still intrinsically evil, and opposing it is still good.

You can use Google incognito. Sometimes that works.

And if all they were doing was opposing fascism then few would care. But they use violence and intimidation mostly against people who aren't fascist.
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Postby Pacomia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:40 am

Scherzinger wrote:Im actually getting somewhat bored commenting here. As i am sure other nations are. Why are we arguing with people who probably cant even recite the first three words of the document that they hate so much? At this point i hope that all of us right wingers just leave so the terrorists can scheme

Hey, I in no way support Antifa, but just going off and saying “LET’S GET OUT AND LET THE TERRORISTS SCHEME” while people are literally just having a civil debate sounds sort of unreasonably hostile.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:41 am

Kowani wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:That's absurd. No one is complicit just for not joining in a protest.

Wrong.

What a compelling argument.
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Postby Scherzinger » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:41 am

Liriena wrote:
Scherzinger wrote:
*looks at profile, sees hes an idiot socialist*

yeah....not gonna take a word of what you say seriously

Personal insults are not arguments. But thanks.


no problem, btw how is Venezuela and the former USSR working out. Not great huh? ^^
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:41 am

Ifreann wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
Yes, yes, yes, hospitalisation is funny, let's mock the injured guy. That seems humane.

How very dare you, sir. I was once hospitalised myself, and I would never mock those who experienced the same struggle I did. So much for the tolerant right.


Purgatio wrote:For those who say ANTIFA just attacks fascists, please take note that if that's the case, the following are fascists:

...A gay Asian journalist...

Consider the following:
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Ernst Röhm, Stabschef of the Sturmabteilung and Gay

A fascist, y/n?

Rohm was a gay fascist. Either way, Ngo is not Rohm.
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Postby Scherzinger » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:42 am

Pacomia wrote:
Scherzinger wrote:Im actually getting somewhat bored commenting here. As i am sure other nations are. Why are we arguing with people who probably cant even recite the first three words of the document that they hate so much? At this point i hope that all of us right wingers just leave so the terrorists can scheme

Hey, I in no way support Antifa, but just going off and saying “LET’S GET OUT AND LET THE TERRORISTS SCHEME” while people are literally just having a civil debate sounds sort of unreasonably hostile.


well neither do i, if that wasnt abundantly clear, but its not like we are actually convincing these people that their flawed beliefs are indeed flawed
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Postby Nakena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:42 am

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Nakena wrote:
It comes with being me. See below. ; )



I am a truly a class of my own after all ^^


and good on you for that haha. Be safe out there. ^^


Merci ^^

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Yes.

You shouldn't comment on things you're ignorant about.

Paywall.

But whatever. I'll assume the worst. That still doesn't make the general cause of antifascism bad. Fascism is still intrinsically evil, and opposing it is still good.


Try private mode. Washington Posts only paywalls after you opened X articles. Probably works by cookies.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:42 am

Purgatio wrote:
Liriena wrote:I'm not "trying to imply" anything. You are obstinately trying to put words in my mouth and projecting motivations onto me.

Ngo's work as an "anti-antifa" journalist deserves to be criticized. If you gave a single solitary cuss about nuance, truth and fairness, rather than be so obsessed with virtue signalling and emotional pearl-clutching in a debate thread, you might have noticed that I've been very explicit about my dislike for violence not carried out in self-defense. This isn't me trying to justify the assault on Ngo. This is me rejecting the stupid notion that we cannot discuss the ways in which Ngo has acted like a grifter, propagandist and provocateur, which are relevant to this discussion regardless of what happened to him.

This is akin to saying that we could not criticize Hillary Clinton's work and ideas if she happened to be assaulted by a political opponent.

Empathy is good, but it should not be an unreasonable obstacle to finding the truth.


I am interested in the truth, and in having a debate about Andy Ngo's ideas and whether they are really 'far-right' as they have been characterised by some in the mainstream media, as all I've seen in the sources you and others have cited is criticism of the Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA movements, hardly a far-right propagandist.

And the reason why I'm bringing up victim-blaming is because that's what it looks like to me. A guy has been brutally attacked and hospitalised and people are trying to hand-wave it away or be ANTIFA apologists by arguing that someone he deserved it or was asking for it or actively agitated the attack against himself by simply saying things that ANTIFA disagrees with.

Nothing you just said has anything to do with what I've said.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:43 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Wrong.

What a compelling argument.

It’s not intended to be. If you aren’t doing anything when you have the opportunity to, that’s supporting the status quo.
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Postby Pacomia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:43 am

Scherzinger wrote:
Pacomia wrote:Hey, I in no way support Antifa, but just going off and saying “LET’S GET OUT AND LET THE TERRORISTS SCHEME” while people are literally just having a civil debate sounds sort of unreasonably hostile.


well neither do i, if that wasnt abundantly clear, but its not like we are actually convincing these people that their flawed beliefs are indeed flawed

And I’m sure that’s exactly what they think about you. Again, debates are two-sided.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:43 am

Scherzinger wrote:
Liriena wrote:Personal insults are not arguments. But thanks.


no problem, btw how is Venezuela and the former USSR working out. Not great huh? ^^

Right wingers have literally 2 arguments. smh
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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:44 am

Scherzinger wrote:
Liriena wrote:Personal insults are not arguments. But thanks.


no problem, btw how is Venezuela and the former USSR working out. Not great huh? ^^

>Venezuela.

Do you have any arguments that aren’t laughable?
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:44 am

Kowani wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:What a compelling argument.

It’s not intended to be. If you aren’t doing anything when you have the opportunity to, that’s supporting the status quo.

Inaction is not support. Try again.
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Postby Gagium » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:46 am

Liriena wrote:
Scherzinger wrote:
no problem, btw how is Venezuela and the former USSR working out. Not great huh? ^^

Right wingers have literally 2 arguments. smh

Ah, yes. The one who judges others' bad faith arguments but then proceeds to argue in bad faith.

smh
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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:46 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Kowani wrote:It’s not intended to be. If you aren’t doing anything when you have the opportunity to, that’s supporting the status quo.

Inaction is not support. Try again.

Except it is. All action or lack thereof is political.
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If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
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Postby Pacomia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:47 am

Kowani wrote:
Scherzinger wrote:
no problem, btw how is Venezuela and the former USSR working out. Not great huh? ^^

>Venezuela.

Do you have any arguments that aren’t laughable?

Hold on, isn’t Venezuela failing because of its corrupt leadership cracking down on its people?
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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:47 am

Gagium wrote:
Liriena wrote:Right wingers have literally 2 arguments. smh

Ah, yes. The one who judges others' bad faith arguments but then proceeds to argue in bad faith.

smh

A second-hand "no u". Remarkable.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:48 am

Side 3 wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:"Right-wing extremists have been one of the largest and most consistent sources of domestic terror incidents in the United States for many years; they have murdered hundreds of people in this country over the last ten years alone."

"whataboutism!!"

:unsure:


"Right-wing extremists have been one of the largest and most consistent sources of domestic terror incidents in the United States for many years; they have murdered hundreds of people in this country over the last ten years alone."

"Yes but that doesn't justify antifa's actions or somehow make them less of a problem, and claiming that it does is whataboutism."

"Whataboutism isn't real!"

:unsure:

It isn't. It's just an excuse to ignore hypocrisy by this point.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:48 am

Kowani wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Inaction is not support. Try again.

Except it is. All action or lack thereof is political.

Uh-huh. You know, I drove through the city yesterday on my way back to my house and I passed by the usual beggars on the streets. I didn't give any of them money because I'm kind of broke and I doubt they spend most of their money on food anyway.

Am I complicit in their homelessness for not giving them anything?
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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:49 am

Kowani wrote:
Scherzinger wrote:
no problem, btw how is Venezuela and the former USSR working out. Not great huh? ^^

>Venezuela.

Do you have any arguments that aren’t laughable?

anyone to the left of Pinochet: *exists*

right-wingers: wat about vuvuzelaaa lmao gottem
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:49 am

Gagium wrote:
Philjia wrote:I'm not an American, nor an anarchist. I'm a milquetoast centre left British social democrat with very unradical ideas about how to progressively improve society for as many people as possible, but not fascists, because people who represent such a tangible threat to the happiness and security of others have no place demanding any of their own.

Unfortunately, it don't be like that. If you were in a federal government position, you'd be expected to represent *all* british people and improve the country for everyone - The fascists, communists, libertarians, conservatives, socialists. The fact that you think it's perfectly acceptable to discriminate against people in federal policy based on their beliefs so that you intentionally try to make their lives worse is astounding...And it'd give them a lot of legitimacy.

"federal government position"

I hate to break it to you, but not every country is a clone of the United States
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Postby Gagium » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:49 am

Kowani wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Inaction is not support. Try again.

Except it is. All action or lack thereof is political.

Is apathy as a concept political?
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