Antifa

[Nova Cyberia]

1) I had no idea that protecting the country and following the law were such a problem for you, if you hate ICE so much, then leave.
2) If you really think this, i dont see you lasting long in the real world where these attacks actually happened because these people have an opposing view to terrorists
3) The right wing is the wing of common sense and Judaic-Christian values, something you clearly lack.

Again, if you have such a problem with it, leave. Go somewhere that hates law and order, and likes terrorism. I will happily fund you a ticket so you can go live in Venezuela or any Middle Eastern country of your choice. You will come back a different man.

Ah the Good'ol conservative argument "IF YOU DON'T LIEK IT YOU CAN GIIIIIT OUT" maybe instead of leaving I wanna turn this dump of a country into a decent place to live, seeing how you're Judaic-Christian values haven't done jack except spread misery.

Funny how fascists and the right wing can get away with killing people daily in mass shooting but as soon as antifa gives someone a booboo you're all whining like you're the victims, absolutely pathetic.

Hard-working men, greater than you, have already made it a decent place to live.

Seeing as you're a commie, you're only going to make it worse and more violent.

[Aureumterra]

What if I oppose both marxism and Judaic-Christian values though? ^^

You defy the laws of pragmatic physics

[Scherzinger]

What if I oppose both marxism and Judaic-Christian values though? ^^

in the modern world its only one or the other. if you oppose them both, then youre just a left leaning lugnut that keeps the left leaning base moving so far to the left it makes NASCAR drivers look like amateurs

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

It's interesting that some people want to arrest everyone who agrees with an incoherent and disorganized concept of a group, but refuse to shut down actual organizations that work together to coordinate attacks.

Antifa is a movement, arresting troublemakers and not all dissidents is the solution. If an anarchist is building bombs, lock them up, but doing that to everyone for having ideas that resemble each other is restricting political freedom. It would be like banning all of the non-moderate right based on the fact that they are unusually violent and generally less pleasant. It ignores that not all of them are neo-Nazi terrorists or creepy pedophiles, even if it seems like that from your perspective.

Yes, some will be violent, but partisan attempts to suppress movements is worse than handling threats in a logical manner.

[Cekoviu]

I don't think I've expressed any actual hatred in this thread, but your posts have so much disdain dripping from them that we could make a renewable power source from it...

i wasnt even talking about your posts, but your movement as a collective. Most of your movement is focused on destroying the lives of everybody who doesnt fit your narrative, whether it be a kid with an uncomfortable smile,

I have literally no idea whom you're referring to with that, to be completely honest. Maybe I just missed it whenever that happened?

or a milk-toast, down to earth SCOTUS nominee who happens to love his country and president.

Who, Kavanaugh? I don't even want to get into that, but I will say that his treatment was mostly justified as far as I know, except for him still getting on the Supreme Court.

If you want to focus on my disdain and hate for your movement, thats fine, it seems to fit your narrative better than the fact that your movement isnt quite what it seems to be.

I'm fully willing to admit that we are fairly insular and can appear brash to people elsewhere. We have a massive image problem, although not all of it is our fault, and I think you're actually right in saying that it isn't what it seems to be (even if your intent is different). I'll note that I'm referring here to run-of-the-mill SJWs, not really Antifa so much - a large portion of their reputation is justified.

I dont really mind you as a person, you seem willing to at least hear the other side, which is rare nowadays. However, the movement you side with makes me think that the only reason you seem civil is because on a forum you actually have to read what others write instead of shouting them down for having an opposing ideal.

Oh, I could absolutely shout you down here if I wanted to. Some of our users do that. But like you, I value education, and my goal is to educate others and myself here (with some humor added in for fun). The most disruptive thing I've done is quietly tabling for the Democratic Party; I've never engaged in a violent protest or done more than glare at my campus's TPUSA chapter with regards to 'silencing conservative voices.' I think that's representative of most or at least many SJWs once you look at the movement from the inside.

[Nova Cyberia]

It's interesting that some people want to arrest everyone who agrees with an incoherent and disorganized concept of a group, but refuse to shut down actual organizations that work together to coordinate attacks.

Antifa is a movement, arresting troublemakers and not all dissidents is the solution. If an anarchist is building bombs, lock them up, but doing that to everyone for having ideas that resemble each other is restricting political freedom. It would be like banning all of the non-moderate right based on the fact that they are unusually violent and generally less pleasant. It ignores that not all of them are neo-Nazi terrorists or creepy pedophiles, even if it seems like that from your perspective.

Yes, some will be violent, but partisan attempts to suppress movements is worse than handling threats in a logical manner.

Why can't we just arrest Rose City Antifa?

[Aureumterra]

What if I oppose both marxism and Judaic-Christian values though? ^^

in the modern world its only one or the other. if you oppose them both, then youre just a left leaning lugnut that keeps the left leaning base moving so far to the left it makes NASCAR drivers look like amateurs

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I haven’t seen such an idealistic post ever

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

Shut down their affiliated websites, any organizing networks they use or funding methods, and black bag followed by imprisonment of those who associate under the title by the U.S. Marine. Any resistance should be suppressed, without remorse or mercy.

Are you talking about yourself and your ilk?

[Cekoviu]

in the modern world its only one or the other. if you oppose them both, then youre just a left leaning lugnut that keeps the left leaning base moving so far to the left it makes NASCAR drivers look like amateurs

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I haven’t seen such an idealistic post ever

Can't get more black and white than that.

[Gagium]

It's interesting that some people want to arrest everyone who agrees with an incoherent and disorganized concept of a group, but refuse to shut down actual organizations that work together to coordinate attacks.

Antifa is a movement, arresting troublemakers and not all dissidents is the solution. If an anarchist is building bombs, lock them up, but doing that to everyone for having ideas that resemble each other is restricting political freedom. It would be like banning all of the non-moderate right based on the fact that they are unusually violent and generally less pleasant. It ignores that not all of them are neo-Nazi terrorists or creepy pedophiles, even if it seems like that from your perspective.

Yes, some will be violent, but partisan attempts to suppress movements is worse than handling threats in a logical manner.

I haven't seen anyone here who wants everyone who affiliates with ANTIFA to be locked up. I think.

[Aureumterra]

Shut down their affiliated websites, any organizing networks they use or funding methods, and black bag followed by imprisonment of those who associate under the title by the U.S. Marine. Any resistance should be suppressed, without remorse or mercy.

Are you talking about yourself and your ilk?

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[Aureumterra]

It's interesting that some people want to arrest everyone who agrees with an incoherent and disorganized concept of a group, but refuse to shut down actual organizations that work together to coordinate attacks.

Antifa is a movement, arresting troublemakers and not all dissidents is the solution. If an anarchist is building bombs, lock them up, but doing that to everyone for having ideas that resemble each other is restricting political freedom. It would be like banning all of the non-moderate right based on the fact that they are unusually violent and generally less pleasant. It ignores that not all of them are neo-Nazi terrorists or creepy pedophiles, even if it seems like that from your perspective.

Yes, some will be violent, but partisan attempts to suppress movements is worse than handling threats in a logical manner.

I haven't seen anyone here who wants everyone who affiliates with ANTIFA to be locked up. I think.

Except for OEP

[Maydona]

fascism comes in many forms. Nazis on the far right, and the entirety of the Left. Lefty fascism eerily echoes full blown Nazism, which is a step above traditional fascism

This has to be the most IQ sapping post I've read in awhile.

[Cekoviu]

I haven't seen anyone here who wants everyone who affiliates with ANTIFA to be locked up. I think.

Except for OEP

"Except for OEP" can probably be added to any statement of the format "everybody here seems to think X" or "nobody here seems to think X." It's a universal qualifier.

[Nakena]

What if I oppose both marxism and Judaic-Christian values though? ^^

You defy the laws of pragmatic physics

It comes with being me. See below. ; )

What if I oppose both marxism and Judaic-Christian values though? ^^

in the modern world its only one or the other. if you oppose them both, then youre just a left leaning lugnut that keeps the left leaning base moving so far to the left it makes NASCAR drivers look like amateurs

I am a truly a class of my own after all ^^

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Fascism is bad. Antifascism is good.

Not complicated.

[Nova Cyberia]

I think we need to stop calling Antifa fascist.

Antifa is perfectly capable of being a garbage movement on it's own without being fascist.

I mean, come on. Give it some credit.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

Are you talking about yourself and your ilk?

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OEP is openly falangist and national syndicalist, hence I was making a joke about their plan to "blackbag and shutdown their organized networks", except reversed at them and the far-right.

[Gagium]

Fascism is bad. Antifascism is good.

Not complicated.

To what extent does antifascism become unjustified or non-good? When you attack conservatives and people who aren't even fascists (and don't like fascists) for not being against them enough vocally?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I haven't seen anyone here who wants everyone who affiliates with ANTIFA to be locked up. I think.

Except for OEP

Pretty much. I think those who engage in violence should be locked up, but that is not all of Antifa.

[Nova Cyberia]

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OEP is openly falangist and national syndicalist, hence I was making a joke about their plan to "blackbag and shutdown their organized networks", except reversed at them and the far-right.

you sure showed him

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I think we need to stop calling Antifa fascist.

Antifa is perfectly capable of being a garbage movement on it's own without being fascist.

I mean, come on. Give it some credit.

Incorrectly calling them fascist also makes our position look ignorant.

[Pacomia]

Fascism is bad. Antifascism is good.

Not complicated.

The ideology, or the organisation ...uh... eh... non- organisation?

[Kowani]

Fascism is bad. Antifascism is good.

Not complicated.

To what extent does antifascism become unjustified or non-good? When you attack conservatives and people who aren't even fascists (and don't like fascists) for not being against them enough vocally?

I don’t advocate attacking people, but being complicit in fascism removes your “innocent card.”

[Scherzinger]

1) I had no idea that protecting the country and following the law were such a problem for you, if you hate ICE so much, then leave.
2) If you really think this, i dont see you lasting long in the real world where these attacks actually happened because these people have an opposing view to terrorists
3) The right wing is the wing of common sense and Judaic-Christian values, something you clearly lack.

Again, if you have such a problem with it, leave. Go somewhere that hates law and order, and likes terrorism. I will happily fund you a ticket so you can go live in Venezuela or any Middle Eastern country of your choice. You will come back a different man.

Ah the Good'ol conservative argument "IF YOU DON'T LIEK IT YOU CAN GIIIIIT OUT" maybe instead of leaving I wanna turn this dump of a country into a decent place to live, seeing how you're Judaic-Christian values haven't done jack except spread misery.

Funny how fascists and the right wing can get away with killing people daily in mass shooting but as soon as antifa gives someone a booboo you're all whining like you're the victims, absolutely pathetic.

Not really, but its the only argument i can use against a child. Seeing as, if your spelling is any indication of your intelligence, you are probably a 8 year old who was forced to think gender is malleable and that America sucks, i need to make sure that even Kindergartners can understand. If you want to make this country a decent place you would join conservatives. Commies like you, who literally act like the children that they should be raising to be better than you, have no place in civilized society. All you care about is forcing your narratives and ideas on others at the verbal, hypothetical, or physical point of a gun, just like Islam does on a daily basis. \

Yes *actual* fascists murder people on a daily basis, and they should be stopped with whatever force is necessary to do so. You just want everybody to believe you arent actually a guy (which you biologically are), that killing babies up to and even after birth, and all men are criminals. Sorry kid, but until you open up a history book, or open up your ignorant mind to common sense, you will continue to be the people that you yearn to destroy.

Youre the pathetic one. You *do* realise that in the last 3 mass shootings that were covered, all of the shooters were left leaning individuals who have the same vies as yourself? In fact, i believe that one or two of those shooters rigorously supported Pocahontas Warren and/or Bernie Stalin. You should really look into the history of places like Venezuela, the USSR, and other places where your views have been implemented. Your political beliefs have killed LITERALLY billions of people. Whether it be from starvation, purges, or just your run of the line assassination. By the way, in a true Marxist society, people with gender dysphoria would not be allowed to live. You would either be forced to work to death, or just outright killed. Thats once area where Nazis and Communists share the same ideological goals.

What you need is help, not to rant in a forum.