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Surkiea
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Postby Surkiea » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:14 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Surkiea wrote:Well the fact that you support an ideology that has murdered over 100 million people shows that you either have no brain or you're a terrible person who wants to murder Christians. You also push a far left ultra progressive agenda in order to destroy western values and force everyone to think the same way you do. That's the left in a nutshell.

Wait, concepts are capable of murder now?

People who believe in those concepts are.
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:14 am

Surkiea wrote:Although I dislike Ngo's homosexuality (it's repulsive tbh)

Why?
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:15 am

Surkiea wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Wait, concepts are capable of murder now?

People who believe in those concepts are.

Then I don't exactly understand how an ideology could have murdered over 100 million people, or how modern believers in that ideology are complicit in that.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:15 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Surkiea wrote:Although I dislike Ngo's homosexuality (it's repulsive tbh)

Why?

*cough* homophobia *cough*
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Postby Surkiea » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:16 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Surkiea wrote:Although I dislike Ngo's homosexuality (it's repulsive tbh)

Why?

Because homosexuality is repulsive, that's why the bible commands that we put them to death. It's also part of the leftist agenda which we right-wingers should oppose.
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Postby Gagium » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:17 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Surkiea wrote:People who believe in those concepts are.

Then I don't exactly understand how an ideology could have murdered over 100 million people, or how modern believers in that ideology are complicit in that.

Do you believe that modern fascists on NS (Or anywhere else, for that matter) are complicit in the deaths fascism has caused in the past?
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:17 am

Surkiea wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Why?

Because homosexuality is repulsive, that's why the bible commands that we put them to death. It's also part of the leftist agenda which we right-wingers should oppose.

Thanks for backing me up, that's helpful.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:18 am

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:It's mere propaganda. I had the misfortune of actually watching it.

Two minutes in and he's saying getting people fired for expressing their political opinions and discriminating against people (As well as violence) is perfectly acceptable. I don't know, we'll see where this goes...

It's going to be a very long video.

Surkiea wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Why?

Because homosexuality is repulsive, that's why the bible commands that we put them to death. It's also part of the leftist agenda which we right-wingers should oppose.

And there is no evidence that anything in the bible is true. It's kind of ironic that you sympathize with him, when you just admitted you'd do something much worse to him.

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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:18 am

Surkiea wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Why?

Because homosexuality is repulsive, that's why the bible commands that we put them to death. It's also part of the leftist agenda which we right-wingers should oppose.

You’re using right winger way to broadly there, I’m a classical liberal with no problem regarding homosexuality
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:19 am

Surkiea wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Maybe you should make an actual argument then if you're expecting one in response.

I did, and all you replied with was an emoji. Think of a smart response next time.


"this totally proves McCarthy right" isn't really an argument so much as vague fearmongering. Especially coupled with the fact you consider anyone who disagrees with you to be a communist.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:20 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Surkiea wrote:Because homosexuality is repulsive, that's why the bible commands that we put them to death. It's also part of the leftist agenda which we right-wingers should oppose.

You’re using right winger way to broadly there, I’m a classical liberal with no problem regarding homosexuality

Pretty much the same with me.

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:22 am

Gagium wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Then I don't exactly understand how an ideology could have murdered over 100 million people, or how modern believers in that ideology are complicit in that.

Do you believe that modern fascists on NS (Or anywhere else, for that matter) are complicit in the deaths fascism has caused in the past?

Nah, it wasn't their direct fault that they happened. The issue is whether they support more deaths, as nearly every fascist does (whether explicitly or implicitly). Many ideologies that could be considered leftism do not require or support additional deliberate deaths to occur. Therefore, leftism cannot be said to purely be murderous.
In fact, using Surkiea's same methodology, we could say they're in favor of killing people because "rightism" has killed at least tens of millions worldwide! Of course, most of that is made up of fascist dictators, but they're still right-wing.
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Postby Redternetia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:23 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Redternetia wrote:Just their "right" to go and advocate harm of others, right?
Fixed the text from earlier btw.

I support free political speech even if it is grotesque speech, and most of my criticism of Antifa is when they get the wrong people, not "oh my god, that poor Nazi skinhead asshole got punched," or something along those lines. Some thugs in the movement attacked a liberal for carrying the American flag, which they declared a "fascist symbol." I'm not inclined to reefer to the discretion of people like that. You can say that is one incident, but there are others that can be found.

You don't need too because ultimately I agree with his motivation for the move. But that article mentions how the American flag is frequently used by the right-side of the fence, and that's true. That doesn't justify him getting hit imo but it's understandably a dangerous move. They were simply unaware the flag is indeed a standard article of the pro-fascist repertoire.

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Postby Scherzinger » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:23 am

Vassenor wrote:
Bliuji wrote:
Yeah man, I guess you could use that as one example. How about I throw a milkshake at you, I don't think you would like that. Are you ignoring the fact that they beat people up for having a different political opinion?


You mean like the guy on the bus yesterday? Who totally wasn't trying to hit them with a hammer first?


i really wouldnt converse with this terrorist supporter, looks like they are a left wing nut-job who probably is in an antifa terrorist cell

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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:24 am

Scherzinger wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You mean like the guy on the bus yesterday? Who totally wasn't trying to hit them with a hammer first?


i really wouldnt converse with this terrorist supporter, looks like they are a left wing nut-job who probably is in an antifa terrorist cell

We’re not on 4chan or r/T_D
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Postby Surkiea » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:25 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:And there is no evidence that anything in the bible is true. It's kind of ironic that you sympathize with him, when you just admitted you'd do something much worse to him.

Apart from that it's the word of god, but okay. And if he repented, then he'd be perfectly fine, if not then that's his choice.

Aureumterra wrote:
Surkiea wrote:Because homosexuality is repulsive, that's why the bible commands that we put them to death. It's also part of the leftist agenda which we right-wingers should oppose.

You’re using right winger way to broadly there, I’m a classical liberal with no problem regarding homosexuality

Then we disagree and you're supporting a socialist agenda.

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Surkiea wrote:I did, and all you replied with was an emoji. Think of a smart response next time.


"this totally proves McCarthy right" isn't really an argument so much as vague fearmongering. Especially coupled with the fact you consider anyone who disagrees with you to be a communist.

McCarthy was right though, we have literal socialists trying to run for president now. And if people support communist polices then I'm going to call them a communist.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:26 am

Scherzinger wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:We’re not on 4chan or r/T_D


i have nary a clue what any of that is. I know it might be hard but can you speak in terms that a normal person with a productive life might understand?

I long to be like you again, not knowing about 4chan or t_d...
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:27 am

Surkiea wrote:McCarthy was right though, we have literal socialists trying to run for president now. And if people support communist polices then I'm going to call them a communist.

You may want to come up here to the Nords where there are actual socialists in powerful positions, and then tell me if Bernie Sanders is a socialist
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Postby Tobleste » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:27 am

Aclion wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
Why are they worse than the far right? Aren't the far right the leading cause of US terrorism?

Because far-right terrorists don't have the Tacit approval and support outside of their little internet hideyholes, unlike antifa which is being defended in this very thread.


Don't they? Didn't Steve Bannon admit he ran a website that was a platform for the alt right and then became advisor to the president? Was there an antifa member who advised Obama? Doesn't Trump play whataboutism whenever the alt right does something? Wasn't white supremacy an active policy for most of the US's existence while anarchism hasn't been? Doesn't far right soundbites get broadcast every night on Fox and from the white house?

Frankly, the far right has more support than antifa.
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Postby Redternetia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:28 am

Surkiea wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Why?

Because homosexuality is repulsive, that's why the bible commands that we put them to death. It's also part of the leftist agenda which we right-wingers should oppose.

Oh grandpa Surkiea, please tell me the story of how the evil people turned the frogs gay again!

P.S. Thank you for D E S T R O Y I N G me earlier like I asked eariler, I now see the ways of F A C T S & L O G I C. =) Look forward to seeing you at Church on Sunday my fellow holier-than-thou conspiracy theorist. :bow: Praise Allaha or whatever it is we say.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:28 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Surkiea wrote:McCarthy was right though, we have literal socialists trying to run for president now. And if people support communist polices then I'm going to call them a communist.

You may want to come up here to the Nords where there are actual socialists in powerful positions, and then tell me if Bernie Sanders is a socialist

A more pressing matter would be learning how to say that in Icelandic in the first place. As everyone knows, it is an unpronounceable language.
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Postby Scherzinger » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:28 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Scherzinger wrote:
i have nary a clue what any of that is. I know it might be hard but can you speak in terms that a normal person with a productive life might understand?

I long to be like you again, not knowing about 4chan or t_d...


well i spent most of my life reading books, watching documentaries, and 13 years of english. Instead of degenerate tv shows and making sure that i was awarre i was a guy and not a confused idiot

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:29 am

Surkiea wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:And there is no evidence that anything in the bible is true. It's kind of ironic that you sympathize with him, when you just admitted you'd do something much worse to him.

Apart from that it's the word of god, but okay. And if he repented, then he'd be perfectly fine, if not then that's his choice.

Aureumterra wrote:You’re using right winger way to broadly there, I’m a classical liberal with no problem regarding homosexuality

Then we disagree and you're supporting a socialist agenda.

Vassenor wrote:
"this totally proves McCarthy right" isn't really an argument so much as vague fearmongering. Especially coupled with the fact you consider anyone who disagrees with you to be a communist.

McCarthy was right though, we have literal socialists trying to run for president now. And if people support communist polices then I'm going to call them a communist.


Protip: Socialism and Communism are not the same thing.
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Postby Purgatio » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:29 am

Tobleste wrote:
Aclion wrote:Because far-right terrorists don't have the Tacit approval and support outside of their little internet hideyholes, unlike antifa which is being defended in this very thread.


Don't they? Didn't Steve Bannon admit he ran a website that was a platform for the alt right and then became advisor to the president? Was there an antifa member who advised Obama? Doesn't Trump play whataboutism whenever the alt right does something? Wasn't white supremacy an active policy for most of the US's existence while anarchism hasn't been? Doesn't far right soundbites get broadcast every night on Fox and from the white house?

Frankly, the far right has more support than antifa.


After Charlottesville, the mainstream media's reaction was universal condemnation.

After the ANTIFA attack on ICE and Andy Ngo, the mainstream media's reaction was equivocation or trying to 'explain' ANTIFA's rationale behind the attacks.
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