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Postby Bliuji » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:09 am

What are your thoughts on Antifa? Do you like them or do you hate them? If you don't know what Antifa is, their movement is composed of left-wing, autonomous, militant anti-fascist groups and individuals in the United States. The principal feature of Antifa groups is their use of direct action, with conflicts occurring both online and in real life. They engage in varied protest tactics, which include digital activism, property damage, physical violence, and harassment against those whom they identify as fascist, racist, or on the right. Personally, I don't like Antifa because they're violent, anti-American, don't know what they're talking about, is supposedly anti-fascist but do fascist-like things, etc. Oh and not to mention they beat up a gay reporter and gave a man brain damage.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:12 am

Bliuji wrote:What are your thoughts on Antifa? Do you like them or do you hate them? If you don't know what Antifa is, their movement is composed of left-wing, autonomous, militant anti-fascist groups and individuals in the United States. The principal feature of Antifa groups is their use of direct action, with conflicts occurring both online and in real life. They engage in varied protest tactics, which include digital activism, property damage, physical violence, and harassment against those whom they identify as fascist, racist, or on the right. Personally, I don't like Antifa because they're violent, anti-American, don't know what they're talking about, is supposedly anti-fascist but do fascist-like things, etc. Oh and not to mention they beat up a gay reporter and gave a man brain damage.


So brain damaged he was able to give interviews to the press the next day.
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:13 am

Antifa is a terrorist organisation that uses violence to achieve its goals
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:14 am

Marxist Germany wrote:Antifa is a terrorist organisation that uses violence to achieve its goals


So where is this organisation based? What is its structure?
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Postby Page » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:18 am

Marxist Germany wrote:Antifa is a terrorist organisation that uses violence to achieve its goals


I remember how moved I was at Portland's Ground Zero, the site at which antifa terrorists brutally overturned a trash can. That trash can had hopes and dreams, but its life was cut short in the most terrible attack of all time. And I teared up as I thought about 9/11 and Oklahoma City and that trash can, because these things are the same. Never forget.
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Postby Bliuji » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:19 am

Vassenor wrote:
Bliuji wrote:What are your thoughts on Antifa? Do you like them or do you hate them? If you don't know what Antifa is, their movement is composed of left-wing, autonomous, militant anti-fascist groups and individuals in the United States. The principal feature of Antifa groups is their use of direct action, with conflicts occurring both online and in real life. They engage in varied protest tactics, which include digital activism, property damage, physical violence, and harassment against those whom they identify as fascist, racist, or on the right. Personally, I don't like Antifa because they're violent, anti-American, don't know what they're talking about, is supposedly anti-fascist but do fascist-like things, etc. Oh and not to mention they beat up a gay reporter and gave a man brain damage.


So brain damaged he was able to give interviews to the press the next day.


Who said you weren't able to talk in an interview if you were brain-damaged? Also, it's brain-damaged not "brain damaged" you forgot the dash. Sounds like you might be a little brain damaged yourself with that grammar mistake. Nah just kidding man don't want to be toxic.
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Postby Bliuji » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:22 am

Page wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:Antifa is a terrorist organisation that uses violence to achieve its goals


I remember how moved I was at Portland's Ground Zero, the site at which antifa terrorists brutally overturned a trash can. That trash can had hopes and dreams, but its life was cut short in the most terrible attack of all time. And I teared up as I thought about 9/11 and Oklahoma City and that trash can, because these things are the same. Never forget.


I'm in Portland right now, speaking of Antifa they had a rally yesterday. And trust me they've done things a lot worse than overturning a trash can.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:22 am

Bliuji wrote:
Vassenor wrote:


Who said you weren't able to talk in an interview if you were brain-damaged? Also, it's brain-damaged not "brain damaged" you forgot the dash. Sounds like you might be a little brain damaged yourself with that grammar mistake. Nah just kidding man don't want to be toxic.


He was healthy enough to discharge himself from hospital and give sob story interviews to the press. Some brain haemorrhage.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:23 am

Bliuji wrote:
Page wrote:


I'm in Portland right now, speaking of Antifa they had a rally yesterday. And trust me they've done things a lot worse than overturning a trash can.


Yeah, like throwing milkshakes at people. :roll:
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Postby Bliuji » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:26 am

Vassenor wrote:
Bliuji wrote:
I'm in Portland right now, speaking of Antifa they had a rally yesterday. And trust me they've done things a lot worse than overturning a trash can.


Yeah, like throwing milkshakes at people. :roll:


Yeah man, I guess you could use that as one example. How about I throw a milkshake at you, I don't think you would like that. Are you ignoring the fact that they beat people up for having a different political opinion?
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:27 am

Page wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:Antifa is a terrorist organisation that uses violence to achieve its goals


I remember how moved I was at Portland's Ground Zero, the site at which antifa terrorists brutally overturned a trash can. That trash can had hopes and dreams, but its life was cut short in the most terrible attack of all time. And I teared up as I thought about 9/11 and Oklahoma City and that trash can, because these things are the same. Never forget.

Stop being disingenuous. They have compatriots who attack reporters and non-fascists, and I have linked to a story several threads ago where a liberal was assaulted over carrying the American flag. I ain't going to water down the term "terrorist organization," but for many in Antifa, the term "thug" is accurate.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:29 am

Bliuji wrote:
Vassenor wrote:


Yeah man, I guess you could use that as one example. How about I throw a milkshake at you, I don't think you would like that. Are you ignoring the fact that they beat people up for having a different political opinion?


You mean like the guy on the bus yesterday? Who totally wasn't trying to hit them with a hammer first?
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Postby Bliuji » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:30 am

Vassenor wrote:
Bliuji wrote:
Yeah man, I guess you could use that as one example. How about I throw a milkshake at you, I don't think you would like that. Are you ignoring the fact that they beat people up for having a different political opinion?


You mean like the guy on the bus yesterday? Who totally wasn't trying to hit them with a hammer first?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJLylzPRvyw Here's a video of Antifa attacking an innocent man's car for literarily no reason. Everyone I know in Portland hates Antifa.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:32 am

Bliuji wrote:
Vassenor wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJLylzPRvyw Here's a video of Antifa attacking an innocent man's car for literarily no reason. Everyone I know in Portland hates Antifa.


And there we go with the "the plural of anecdote is data" cop-out.

What makes your sample generalisable?
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:35 am

Shut down their affiliated websites, any organizing networks they use or funding methods, and black bag followed by imprisonment of those who associate under the title by the U.S. Marine. Any resistance should be suppressed, without remorse or mercy.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:35 am

Vassenor wrote:What makes your sample generalisable?

Maybe because this isn't the only negative story involving Antifa that was confirmed true. I would post links, but you'd never read them, or make a No True Scotsman argument.

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Postby Bliuji » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:35 am

Vassenor wrote:
Bliuji wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJLylzPRvyw Here's a video of Antifa attacking an innocent man's car for literarily no reason. Everyone I know in Portland hates Antifa.


And there we go with the "the plural of anecdote is data" cop-out.

What makes your sample generalisable?


Like how you mentioned brain-damage before. Yet again another spelling mistake because of your brain-damage. It's spelled generalizable, not "generalisable"

Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that Antifa is violent?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:36 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:Shut down their affiliated websites, any organizing networks they use or funding methods, and black bag followed by imprisonment of those who associate under the title by the U.S. Marine. Any resistance should be suppressed, without remorse or mercy.


But how dare we suggest doing that for groups that have actually killed people.
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Postby Nakena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:36 am

Aren't they declining by now?

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:36 am

Bliuji wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And there we go with the "the plural of anecdote is data" cop-out.



Like how you mentioned brain-damage before. Yet again another spelling mistake because of your brain-damage. It's spelled generalizable, not "generalisable"

Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that Antifa is violent?


Remember, throwing milkshakes is the worst violence possible. :roll:
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:38 am

Vassenor wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:Shut down their affiliated websites, any organizing networks they use or funding methods, and black bag followed by imprisonment of those who associate under the title by the U.S. Marine. Any resistance should be suppressed, without remorse or mercy.


But how dare we suggest doing that for groups that have actually killed people.


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Postby Bliuji » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:38 am

Vassenor wrote:
Bliuji wrote:
Like how you mentioned brain-damage before. Yet again another spelling mistake because of your brain-damage. It's spelled generalizable, not "generalisable"

Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that Antifa is violent?


Remember, throwing milkshakes is the worst violence possible. :roll:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WzMZxT-41k Did you watch the full video? I think we can all agree it was more than a milkshake.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:39 am

Bliuji wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Remember, throwing milkshakes is the worst violence possible. :roll:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WzMZxT-41k Did you watch the full video? I think we can all agree it was more than a milkshake.


Didn't he doxx a woman who'd had her spine broken by rightists? But clearly Antifa is the real violent ones.
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Postby Page » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:40 am

Bliuji wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And there we go with the "the plural of anecdote is data" cop-out.



Like how you mentioned brain-damage before. Yet again another spelling mistake because of your brain-damage. It's spelled generalizable, not "generalisable"

Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that Antifa is violent?


I have never seen evidence of violence toward uninvolved bystanders, antifa activists do not go out looking for random people to fight for the fun of it.
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