Ave Satanas! Satanism Discussion Thread

[Rojava Free State]

Is this an accidental IC post in General or are you serious?

I'm 100% serious; been reading about the Green Movement (Pro-Abortion) down in the Southern Cone in Latin America and think it'd be a worthy cause to send Marines down there under this umbrella too, given they are calling themselves witches and the like.

Yeah, let's waste time down in South America because some weirdos cast a spell that doesn't even work

you're suggesting we waste millions of dollars just to stop people in pointy hats from saying "oogley mudahi now you must die."

[Totally Not OEP]

I'm 100% serious; been reading about the Green Movement (Pro-Abortion) down in the Southern Cone in Latin America and think it'd be a worthy cause to send Marines down there under this umbrella too, given they are calling themselves witches and the like.

Yeah, let's waste time down in South America because some weirdos cast a spell that doesn't even work

you're suggesting we waste millions of dollars just to stop people in pointy hats from saying "oogley mudahi now you must die."

Yes, and your point is?

[Rojava Free State]

Yeah, let's waste time down in South America because some weirdos cast a spell that doesn't even work

you're suggesting we waste millions of dollars just to stop people in pointy hats from saying "oogley mudahi now you must die."

Yes, and your point is?

Why the actual hell should we do that?

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Yeah, let's waste time down in South America because some weirdos cast a spell that doesn't even work

you're suggesting we waste millions of dollars just to stop people in pointy hats from saying "oogley mudahi now you must die."

Yes, and your point is?

If you think witchcraft is bullshit, then it's ridiculous overkill for a non-existent problem. If you think witchcraft is real, well... maybe then you should consider the witches might win.

[Totally Not OEP]

Yes, and your point is?

Why the actual hell should we do that?

Because evil should be contested at every corner, at every turn, to the last bullet and to the last man with the conviction thereof does so. Fuck bourgeois considerations like cost of and such; if we can spend millions learning about Whale sperm, I find an argument based off campaign costs to be superfluous.

[Nakena]

LaVeyans also allow for some belief in the supernatural.

As far as I know, Leveyan beliefs in the supernatural are not necessarily literal. They believe in "magick" but I think it's supposed to be more a symbol of human will and ability.

Big Jim P could give a better answer if he's still around.

He is regulary posting here.

[Kowani]

Why the actual hell should we do that?

Because evil should be contested at every corner, at every turn, to the last bullet and to the last man with the conviction thereof does so. Fuck bourgeois considerations like cost of and such; if we can spend millions learning about Whale sperm, I find an argument based off campaign costs to be superfluous.

That’s the worst justification you’ve given for anything, and you’ve had some pretty terrible ideas.

[Nakena]

Because evil should be contested at every corner, at every turn, to the last bullet and to the last man with the conviction thereof does so. Fuck bourgeois considerations like cost of and such; if we can spend millions learning about Whale sperm, I find an argument based off campaign costs to be superfluous.

That’s the worst justification you’ve given for anything, and you’ve had some pretty terrible ideas.

Originally it was related to something that supposedly happened in South America. I dont even know how this is related to Satanism.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Yes, and your point is?

If you think witchcraft is bullshit, then it's ridiculous overkill for a non-existent problem. If you think witchcraft is real, well... maybe then you should consider the witches might win.

Witches are 100% fake con artists and neo pagans. A few people could probably beat them all because we dont believe in hocus pocus illusionist imitators anymore. At least magicians can find more conventional pay with their acting.

If witchcraft is real, then they're damn good at killing people they're supposed to be helping. Real or not, it kills many in third world countries by making people too dumb to get medical aid.

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That’s the worst justification you’ve given for anything, and you’ve had some pretty terrible ideas.

Originally it was related to something that supposedly happened in South America. I dont even know how this is related to Satanism.

Witches = abortion = gays = atheists = Muslims = Satanism. It's all one thing.

Right-wing logic 101

[Godular]

If you think witchcraft is bullshit, then it's ridiculous overkill for a non-existent problem. If you think witchcraft is real, well... maybe then you should consider the witches might win.

Witches are 100% fake con artists and neo pagans. A few people could probably beat them all because we dont believe in hocus pocus illusionist imitators anymore. At least magicians can find more conventional pay with their acting.

If witchcraft is real, then they're damn good at killing people they're supposed to be helping. Real or not, it kills many in third world countries by making people too dumb to get medical aid.

*cough* Anti-vaxxers *cough*

One should not blame 'witchcraft' when simple ignorance is to blame.

[Totally Not OEP]

Originally it was related to something that supposedly happened in South America. I dont even know how this is related to Satanism.

Witches = abortion = gays = atheists = Muslims = Satanism. It's all one thing.

Right-wing logic 101

Was literally talking about a group of Abortion activists down in the Southern Cone who claim to be Witches. Might want to read the prior posts before attempting to comment, for future reference.

[Noctis Aeternus]

Some traditional/spiritual/theistic Satanists are monotheistic in the sense they only believe in Satan, others are polytheistic, believing in Satan, Lucifer, Baphomet, Bunè, etc. There are many different denominations of Satanism, many not only hail Satan/Lucifer/Set but also seeing themselves as their own God, seeing themselves as alone being morally responsible for their actions and as the masters of their own fate.
A lot of Satanists I’ve met have explained the Genesis story this way: Satan/Lucifer saw Yahweh using Adam and Eve as thoughtslaves and considered it wrong, so he convinced them to eat the fruit of the tree of Knowledge to free them from Yahweh’s tyrannical grasp, kickstarting all human logic, reason, and scientific advancement. This is why Luciferians call Him the Light Bringer and ask for help in gaining Gnosis or knowledge.

[The Brytish Isles]

Some traditional/spiritual/theistic Satanists are monotheistic in the sense they only believe in Satan, others are polytheistic, believing in Satan, Lucifer, Baphomet, Bunè, etc. There are many different denominations of Satanism, many not only hail Satan/Lucifer/Set but also seeing themselves as their own God, seeing themselves as alone being morally responsible for their actions and as the masters of their own fate.
A lot of Satanists I’ve met have explained the Genesis story this way: Satan/Lucifer saw Yahweh using Adam and Eve as thoughtslaves and considered it wrong, so he convinced them to eat the fruit of the tree of Knowledge to free them from Yahweh’s tyrannical grasp, kickstarting all human logic, reason, and scientific advancement. This is why Luciferians call Him the Light Bringer and ask for help in gaining Gnosis or knowledge.

So he’s a Promethean figure, pretty much? Like how Prometheus gave mankind fire?

[Noctis Aeternus]

Some traditional/spiritual/theistic Satanists are monotheistic in the sense they only believe in Satan, others are polytheistic, believing in Satan, Lucifer, Baphomet, Bunè, etc. There are many different denominations of Satanism, many not only hail Satan/Lucifer/Set but also seeing themselves as their own God, seeing themselves as alone being morally responsible for their actions and as the masters of their own fate.
A lot of Satanists I’ve met have explained the Genesis story this way: Satan/Lucifer saw Yahweh using Adam and Eve as thoughtslaves and considered it wrong, so he convinced them to eat the fruit of the tree of Knowledge to free them from Yahweh’s tyrannical grasp, kickstarting all human logic, reason, and scientific advancement. This is why Luciferians call Him the Light Bringer and ask for help in gaining Gnosis or knowledge.

So he’s a Promethean figure, pretty much? Like how Prometheus gave mankind fire?

Pretty much, yea.

[The Brytish Isles]

So he’s a Promethean figure, pretty much? Like how Prometheus gave mankind fire?

Pretty much, yea.

Interesting.

[Noctis Aeternus]

Pretty much, yea.

Interesting.

He’s also a deity of pleasure, in all it’s forms, for a lot of us. So, a Gnostic Promethean hedonist.

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If you think witchcraft is bullshit, then it's ridiculous overkill for a non-existent problem. If you think witchcraft is real, well... maybe then you should consider the witches might win.

Witches are 100% fake con artists and neo pagans. A few people could probably beat them all because we dont believe in hocus pocus illusionist imitators anymore. At least magicians can find more conventional pay with their acting.

If witchcraft is real, then they're damn good at killing people they're supposed to be helping. Real or not, it kills many in third world countries by making people too dumb to get medical aid.

All of that is true. I don't believe in imaginary things, I was just making the point that someone who believes in witchcraft ought to be a lot more afraid of it and not think the marines can beat magic.

[Jakker]

I don't see witchcraft as related to satanism as far as I can tell. Let's get this thread back on track.

[Noctis Aeternus]

Honest question, why would you want to devout yourself to an evil deity?

That question could be asked for followers of the abrahamic religions as well

I guess the real question is, why would you literally believe hell is real and say "I wanna go there when I die"?

Speaking for myself, I don’t see Satan as evil, I see him as the author of life and death, pleasure and pain, flesh and spirit, and knowledge.

[Danceria]

Don't mind me, just lurking, and throwing onto the fire that the "Morning Star/Light Bringer" could also be a political jab, since the surrounding nations of Ancient Israel (IE Egypt and Mesopotamia) had Kings that were "The Morning and Evening Star".

Prophets of God/Jehovah bringing down the schemes of [insert pagan king that was about to shoah/dissuade the Jews from following Jehovah here] isn't new, so I'm still holding out that Paradise Lost is a biblical fanfiction of gentilified Talmud/Torah fanfiction. Damn fine fanfiction, but ultimately fanfiction.

[Noctis Aeternus]

Honest question, why would you want to devout yourself to an evil deity?

That question could be asked for followers of the abrahamic religions as well

I guess the real question is, why would you literally believe hell is real and say "I wanna go there when I die"?

Speaking for myself, I don’t see Satan as evil, I see him as the author of life and death, pleasure and pain, flesh and spirit, and knowledge.

[Rojava Free State]

Witches are 100% fake con artists and neo pagans. A few people could probably beat them all because we dont believe in hocus pocus illusionist imitators anymore. At least magicians can find more conventional pay with their acting.

If witchcraft is real, then they're damn good at killing people they're supposed to be helping. Real or not, it kills many in third world countries by making people too dumb to get medical aid.

All of that is true. I don't believe in imaginary things, I was just making the point that someone who believes in witchcraft ought to be a lot more afraid of it and not think the marines can beat magic.

Friendly reminder to anyone who doesn't take their powers seriously about the night vsauce had that encounter with the police. Just a recap:

Police: sir you are under arrest for doing 90 on a 25 zone
Michael: or am i? *handcuffs randomly disappear*
Police: WE NEED BACKUP! WE NEED BACKUP NOW! WE-" *static*

Don't mess around with people with super powers man

[Rojava Free State]

That question could be asked for followers of the abrahamic religions as well

I guess the real question is, why would you literally believe hell is real and say "I wanna go there when I die"?

Speaking for myself, I don’t see Satan as evil, I see him as the author of life and death, pleasure and pain, flesh and spirit, and knowledge.

But according to legend, you're gonna go to hell for believing in satan. That doesn't disturb you?

[Noctis Aeternus]

Speaking for myself, I don’t see Satan as evil, I see him as the author of life and death, pleasure and pain, flesh and spirit, and knowledge.

But according to legend, you're gonna go to hell for believing in satan. That doesn't disturb you?

Not at all, way I see it, Hell is home and I’m a child of Satan, metaphysically speaking. I can’t wait, it’s a never ending party.