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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:46 pm
by Luminesa
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:I mean it goes both ways fam.

I don't even remember when the last time a LWDT'er posted on the RWDT.

Kowani? Hana? Torra? (Yes, Torra has posted in RWDT in the last year.) That’s...at least three.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:47 pm
by Luminesa
Genivaria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I don't even remember when the last time a LWDT'er posted on the RWDT.

I post there all the time.

You’re...not really left-wing?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:51 pm
by The East Marches II
Italios wrote:

am i bugging or shouldn't you be dead? like seriously how are you still here in 2019


You're dreaming anon

Image

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:17 am
by Cappuccina
Luminesa wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I mean, I put it there, like, right as I came out. Then everyone had no problem with it for at least a little bit, then some certain people decided to be ridiculously petty because I got under their skins for being ideologically opposed to them.

I honestly did it out of habit. I don’t have a problem calling you Torra. I think Procto and Nap did it out of habit as well.


You're very lenient.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:17 am
by Crysuko
Luminesa wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I don't even remember when the last time a LWDT'er posted on the RWDT.

Kowani? Hana? Torra? (Yes, Torra has posted in RWDT in the last year.) That’s...at least three.

I pop in every once in a while as well

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:19 am
by Cappuccina
Luminesa wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I don't even remember when the last time a LWDT'er posted on the RWDT.

Kowani? Hana? Torra? (Yes, Torra has posted in RWDT in the last year.) That’s...at least three.


Kowani, Torra...ok. But tbh, I'd consider Hana to be RWDTer herself.....

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:20 am
by Pasong Tirad
Luminesa wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I post there all the time.

You’re...not really left-wing?

Social democrats are still comrades.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:22 am
by Crysuko
Pasong Tirad wrote:
Luminesa wrote:You’re...not really left-wing?

Social democrats are still comrades.


They're welfare capitalists at best. Useful for being an entryway to deeper leftism, but not much more.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:55 am
by Cappuccina
Crysuko wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Social democrats are still comrades.


They're welfare capitalists at best. Useful for being an entryway to deeper leftism, but not much more.


More like a detraction from deeper (economic) leftism.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:57 am
by Kowani
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:I mean it goes both ways fam.

I don't even remember when the last time a LWDT'er posted on the RWDT.

…I’m almost insulted.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:00 am
by Kowani
Cappuccina wrote:
Crysuko wrote:
They're welfare capitalists at best. Useful for being an entryway to deeper leftism, but not much more.


More like a detraction from deeper (economic) leftism.

Yes, how dare we improve people’s lives.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:04 am
by North German Realm
Cappuccina wrote:
Crysuko wrote:
They're welfare capitalists at best. Useful for being an entryway to deeper leftism, but not much more.


More like a detraction from deeper (economic) leftism.

Imagine unironically thinking economic collectivism is the "Deeper" form of leftism.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:05 am
by Crysuko
North German Realm wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:
More like a detraction from deeper (economic) leftism.

Imagine unironically thinking economic collectivism is the "Deeper" form of leftism.

It can be, but not universally.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:12 am
by Cappuccina
North German Realm wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:
More like a detraction from deeper (economic) leftism.

Imagine unironically thinking economic collectivism is the "Deeper" form of leftism.


Social democracy is a bandage on a broken glass, the water will still escape. Capitalism is the antithesis to morality.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:13 am
by North German Realm
Cappuccina wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Imagine unironically thinking economic collectivism is the "Deeper" form of leftism.


Social democracy is a bandage on a broken glass, the water will still escape. Capitalism is the antithesis to morality.

Even if that were true -and both statements are debatable at best-, that is irrelevant to whether or not authoritarian collectivism is in any way "deep" in term of leftist ideologies.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:18 am
by The Xenopolis Confederation
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:I mean it goes both ways fam.

I don't even remember when the last time a LWDT'er posted on the RWDT.

Would I be a RWDTer or a LWDTer?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:20 am
by Kowani
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I don't even remember when the last time a LWDT'er posted on the RWDT.

Would I be a RWDTer or a LWDTer?

RW, I think.

North German Realm wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:
Social democracy is a bandage on a broken glass, the water will still escape. Capitalism is the antithesis to morality.

Even if that were true -and both statements are debatable at best-, that is irrelevant to whether or not authoritarian collectivism is in any way "deep" in term of leftist ideologies.

You’d have to define “deep” for that, no?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:23 am
by Dumb Ideologies
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I don't even remember when the last time a LWDT'er posted on the RWDT.

Would I be a RWDTer or a LWDTer?


You're part of the Enlightened Centrist Thread With Ancap Characteristics :^)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:27 am
by Crysuko
North German Realm wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:
Social democracy is a bandage on a broken glass, the water will still escape. Capitalism is the antithesis to morality.

Even if that were true -and both statements are debatable at best-, that is irrelevant to whether or not authoritarian collectivism is in any way "deep" in term of leftist ideologies.

Authoritarians have handily proven that they cannot be trusted to maintain socialism.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:33 am
by The Xenopolis Confederation
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Would I be a RWDTer or a LWDTer?


You're part of the Enlightened Centrist Thread With Ancap Characteristics :^)

I see. Wait, didn't that thread die a year ago at about 20 pages?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:36 am
by Pasong Tirad
Crysuko wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Social democrats are still comrades.


They're welfare capitalists at best. Useful for being an entryway to deeper leftism, but not much more.

This is my take. They're critical of capitalism enough that their goals will not, at least in the long term, be a hindrance to the goals of the left - more rights for organizing, better wages, pushing for free universal health and pharmacare, etc. Which is why the likes of Bernie Sanders (although I honestly would consider Sanders to be more radical than the regular Scandinavian-style social democrat/New Deal Progressive) are definitely comrades in my book.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:39 am
by Dumb Ideologies
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:I mean it goes both ways fam.

I don't even remember when the last time a LWDT'er posted on the RWDT.


I am SchröDInger's cat, simultaneously belonging to both and neither, and liable to be killed off at any moment.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:41 am
by Pasong Tirad
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I don't even remember when the last time a LWDT'er posted on the RWDT.


I am SchröDInger's cat, simultaneously belonging to both and neither, and liable to be killed off at any moment.

The ultimate centrist - but also not a centrist.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:46 am
by The Xenopolis Confederation
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I don't even remember when the last time a LWDT'er posted on the RWDT.


I am SchröDInger's cat, simultaneously belonging to both and neither, and liable to be killed off at any moment.

I would say you belong a bit more to the LWDT than the RWDT because you post there more often.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:53 am
by Pasong Tirad
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I don't even remember when the last time a LWDT'er posted on the RWDT.

Would I be a RWDTer or a LWDTer?

Yes.