Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:50 pm
Relevant xkcd
Because sometimes even national leaders just want to hang out
https://forum.nationstates.net/
Xeng He wrote:What do the leftists on here think of Frederick Winslow Taylor? In particular, I'm wondering what they think someone like him should be paid. Also the implications this has for management pay.
Cekoviu wrote:Xeng He wrote:What do the leftists on here think of Frederick Winslow Taylor? In particular, I'm wondering what they think someone like him should be paid. Also the implications this has for management pay.
One of the greatest journalists of the 21st century, and a talented artist to boot. He's truly an admirable man.
Albrenia wrote:Ah, good old Ayn Rand. Even she couldn't practise the rubbish she preached in the end.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Albrenia wrote:Ah, good old Ayn Rand. Even she couldn't practise the rubbish she preached in the end.
Depends. From a purely selfish point of view using a system you disagree with and thus benefitting from "wrong" isn't all that inconsistent. Greed is the only virtue to these people after all.
Bannon aims to lead a populist revolt of underprivileged people against the elites – he is taking Trump’s message of a government by and for the people more literally than Trump himself dares to do. That’s why Bannon is worth his weight in gold
The first conclusion we are compelled to draw from this strange predicament is that class struggle is back as the main determining factor of our political life – a determining factor in the good old Marxist sense of “determination in the last instance”: even if the stakes appear to be totally different, from humanitarian crises to ecological threats, class struggle lurks in the background and casts its ominous shadow.
The second conclusion is that class struggle is less and less directly transposed into the struggle between political parties, and more and more a struggle which takes place within each big political party.
Ostroeuropa wrote:Liriena, I see why you like this guy, he's got balls.
https://i.redd.it/1k2g4dcma6n41.pngBannon aims to lead a populist revolt of underprivileged people against the elites – he is taking Trump’s message of a government by and for the people more literally than Trump himself dares to do. That’s why Bannon is worth his weight in gold
+The first conclusion we are compelled to draw from this strange predicament is that class struggle is back as the main determining factor of our political life – a determining factor in the good old Marxist sense of “determination in the last instance”: even if the stakes appear to be totally different, from humanitarian crises to ecological threats, class struggle lurks in the background and casts its ominous shadow.
The second conclusion is that class struggle is less and less directly transposed into the struggle between political parties, and more and more a struggle which takes place within each big political party.
Mirial Magna wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:Liriena, I see why you like this guy, he's got balls.
https://i.redd.it/1k2g4dcma6n41.png
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I'd say that class struggle is taking place within the two main parties, as opposed to one being pro-worker and the other being pro-capitalist.
Really, all Bernie would have to do in order to unite pro-worker political views is support gun rights and oppose abortion.
Cisairse wrote:Mirial Magna wrote:I'd say that class struggle is taking place within the two main parties, as opposed to one being pro-worker and the other being pro-capitalist.
Really, all Bernie would have to do in order to unite pro-worker political views is support gun rights and oppose abortion.
workers are anti-abortion
you heard it here folks
Cisairse wrote:Mirial Magna wrote:I'd say that class struggle is taking place within the two main parties, as opposed to one being pro-worker and the other being pro-capitalist.
Really, all Bernie would have to do in order to unite pro-worker political views is support gun rights and oppose abortion.
workers are anti-abortion
you heard it here folks
Mirial Magna wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:Liriena, I see why you like this guy, he's got balls.
https://i.redd.it/1k2g4dcma6n41.png
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I'd say that class struggle is taking place within the two main parties, as opposed to one being pro-worker and the other being pro-capitalist.
Really, all Bernie would have to do in order to unite pro-worker political views is support gun rights and oppose abortion.
Cisairse wrote:Mirial Magna wrote:I'd say that class struggle is taking place within the two main parties, as opposed to one being pro-worker and the other being pro-capitalist.
Really, all Bernie would have to do in order to unite pro-worker political views is support gun rights and oppose abortion.
workers are anti-abortion
you heard it here folks
Imperium Romanum Sanctis wrote:Mirial Magna wrote:I'd say that class struggle is taking place within the two main parties, as opposed to one being pro-worker and the other being pro-capitalist.
Really, all Bernie would have to do in order to unite pro-worker political views is support gun rights and oppose abortion.
That, and stop calling himself a Socialist.
At the end of the day, a lot of it comes down to marketing.