LWDT 8: Hitting the Marx

[Mirial Magna]

He built a superpower, but he paid the price of the endless destruction of Russian lives.

Tbh though, Stalin was probably a safer option for Russia than Trotsky, despite the copious amount of bloodshed his reign had.

Trotsky would have galvanized anti-Semitism and led to a much stronger fascism in the aftermath of the war, and may have even led to the Buchanan outcome where the west aligns with Germany against Russia.

Whereas Stalin galvanized anti-colonialism by showing the world how shitty Caucasians can be.

[Ostroeuropa]

Oof.
Owwie.
My syndicalism.

[Punainen Suomi]

Corporate slavery does not sound particularly conducive to individual liberty. I am also curious as to your opinions on more recent right-libertarian experiments, such as Galt's Gulch Chile and Von Ormy Texas.

Corporate slavery doesn't exist so long as one has the capacity to quit. Von Ormy made the mistake of not having a unified vision, as is the trouble with democracy and why I dislike it. There isn't much information about the town for me to say more. As for Galt's Gulch, its founder was a fraud. Libertarians are not fond of fraudsters.

While that is true in theory, during the gilded age many company towns paid their workers in scrip that could only be redeemed at company stores, rather than providing them with money that could be used to purchase things more generally. How does libertarianism work within a non-democratic framework? And how does it prevent the rise of fraudsters seeking to exploit the system?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Do you consider the USA to be a minarchist state?

It was, but then it sadly mutated into its modern, grotesque form. Woodrow Wilson is forever ingrained in my memory as the man behind America's downfall.

The US was never a “minarchist” state, just because the federal government may have been smaller in a previous era of history doesn’t mean that the state governments were just as small, since they weren’t as constitutionally hindered before the Reconstruction amendments.

[Northern Davincia]

It was, but then it sadly mutated into its modern, grotesque form. Woodrow Wilson is forever ingrained in my memory as the man behind America's downfall.

The US was never a “minarchist” state, just because the federal government may have been smaller in a previous era of history doesn’t mean that the state governments were just as small, since they weren’t as constitutionally hindered before the Reconstruction amendments.

Even so, those state governments tended to be smaller than they are now. Sadly, many states used what authority they had to enforce segregation and whatnot.

[Fahran]

Tfw Trump and the GOP might now sweep elections by stealing Bernie's thunder.

[Fahran]

Oof.
Owwie.
My syndicalism.

(Image)

:^)

Suitably based and red-pilled.

[North German Realm]

Tfw Trump and the GOP might now sweep elections by stealing Bernie's thunder.

It'll be extremely ironic, the best part would be the fact that literally nobody would be able to complain.

[Shanghai industrial complex]

I’ve noticed a trend, whenever there’s a major protest movement anywhere, the left tries to appropriate it as a leftist one. Even when said protests are directly against leftist governments

Case in point Hong Kong and Yellow Vest

Macron is as close to the right as a leftist leader in France can get and lol at the implication that the PRC's government isn't right authoritarian.

Even the rightmost socialists are left more than the leftmost capitalists.Сука блядь!Ты чертов буржуй. 

[Liriena]

Tfw Trump and the GOP might now sweep elections by stealing Bernie's thunder.

Not if the economy collapses and the pandemic gets really bad on their watch, both of which seem quite likely.

In my experience, last-minute attempts to copy your opponents' most popular policies won't save you electorally if everything already went to shit on your watch.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Yooooo, it's seriously beginning to look like I was wrong to doubt comrade coronavirus. In just a few weeks we've gotten a market meltdown and governments around the world, including right-wing kakistocracies like the Trump administration, flirting with progressive policies, and it's all thanks to this one round boy.

I'm a viral accelerationist now.

Same. Thank you, Comrade Coronavirus.

I'm not sure I would call Covid-19 accelerationism. The idea behind accelerationism is using human agency, or action, to speed up the dialectic. No one planned Covid-19. With Covid-19, the contradictions of capitalism are playing out on their own.

[Salus Maior]

Yooooo, it's seriously beginning to look like I was wrong to doubt comrade coronavirus. In just a few weeks we've gotten a market meltdown and governments around the world, including right-wing kakistocracies like the Trump administration, flirting with progressive policies, and it's all thanks to this one round boy.

I'm a viral accelerationist now.

Naturally, the Leftist praises and celebrates events which spread suffering and death, if it means they get what they want.

[Hanafuridake]

Tfw Trump and the GOP might now sweep elections by stealing Bernie's thunder.

Social justice Trump is the stuff that nightmares are made of.

[Loben The 2nd]

Yooooo, it's seriously beginning to look like I was wrong to doubt comrade coronavirus. In just a few weeks we've gotten a market meltdown and governments around the world, including right-wing kakistocracies like the Trump administration, flirting with progressive policies, and it's all thanks to this one round boy.

I'm a viral accelerationist now.

Naturally, the Leftist praises and celebrates events which spread suffering and death, if it means they get what they want.

notice the pattern?


its typically times like this is when the mask comes off.

[Ostroeuropa]

Tfw conservatives IRL are inviting me to their group chats to discuss conservative approaches to mensrights and not-so-subtly trying to coax me into the Tory party and saying Johnsons economics is cool and they like it and I should be a wet tory, all while I'm having to script my interactions with left wing groups and parties before bringing up the topic. Also arranging for me to talk to their MP. *sigh*.

Just envisioning how i'd leave the left.

Something like this I bet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-tAiOVMYFY

Tfw Trump and the GOP might now sweep elections by stealing Bernie's thunder.

Not if the economy collapses and the pandemic gets really bad on their watch, both of which seem quite likely.

In my experience, last-minute attempts to copy your opponents' most popular policies won't save you electorally if everything already went to shit on your watch.

I think the pandemic is a non-starter. People inclined to oppose the regime will blame the regime, people not inclined to do so will say "Well, it's a virus. Can't be helped.".
The virus also covers up economic problems and allows deflection on that point, but Trump can claim the strongest economy ever until the virus hit.

His actual major weaknesses were already identified by Tucker Carlson. While there's widespread acknowledgement the economy is doing well, except among democrats, almost nobody thinks it has benefitted them personally and they say they are struggling. This includes the republican base.

He needs to acknowledge that and pitch a solution.

"Can't do it all at once folks, I mean I can do more than most and even I can't do it all at once. Maybe if I get a third term, a bit more experience, then I could do it all at once, i'm a fast learner. But now that we've fixed the economy, and it's terrific, doing terrific, the best economy they say. But we have to make sure that economy benefits more normal americans. You can't share something until it's already there, and thanks to me it is there, and now we're gonna share it."

[Wheatonleks]

Yooooo, it's seriously beginning to look like I was wrong to doubt comrade coronavirus. In just a few weeks we've gotten a market meltdown and governments around the world, including right-wing kakistocracies like the Trump administration, flirting with progressive policies, and it's all thanks to this one round boy.

I'm a viral accelerationist now.

I think if the Coronavirus shows anything it’s that the government has no place being involved in healthcare, just look at how badly they messed this up, if researchers and drug companies didn’t have to deal with red tape there’d probably be a cure by now

[Cekoviu]

Yooooo, it's seriously beginning to look like I was wrong to doubt comrade coronavirus. In just a few weeks we've gotten a market meltdown and governments around the world, including right-wing kakistocracies like the Trump administration, flirting with progressive policies, and it's all thanks to this one round boy.

I'm a viral accelerationist now.

I think if the Coronavirus shows anything it’s that the government has no place being involved in healthcare, just look at how badly they messed this up, if researchers and drug companies didn’t have to deal with red tape there’d probably be a cure by now

imagine being this ignorant about how medicine works

[Dumb Ideologies]

Tfw conservatives IRL are inviting me to their group chats to discuss conservative approaches to mensrights and not-so-subtly trying to coax me into the Tory party and saying Johnsons economics is cool and they like it and I should be a wet tory, all while I'm having to script my interactions with left wing groups and parties before bringing up the topic. Also arranging for me to talk to their MP. *sigh*.

Just envisioning how i'd leave the left.

Something like this I bet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-tAiOVMYFY

Fill your mind with the coming turbo austerity after Corona finishes and the lobbyists want the Tories to balance the books. Now yeet like you've never yeeted before.

[Ostroeuropa]

Tfw conservatives IRL are inviting me to their group chats to discuss conservative approaches to mensrights and not-so-subtly trying to coax me into the Tory party and saying Johnsons economics is cool and they like it and I should be a wet tory, all while I'm having to script my interactions with left wing groups and parties before bringing up the topic. Also arranging for me to talk to their MP. *sigh*.

Just envisioning how i'd leave the left.

Something like this I bet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-tAiOVMYFY

Fill your mind with the coming turbo austerity after Corona finishes and the lobbyists want the Tories to balance the books. Now yeet like you've never yeeted before.

Probably yeah, that would indeed be a problem.

[Liriena]

Yooooo, it's seriously beginning to look like I was wrong to doubt comrade coronavirus. In just a few weeks we've gotten a market meltdown and governments around the world, including right-wing kakistocracies like the Trump administration, flirting with progressive policies, and it's all thanks to this one round boy.

I'm a viral accelerationist now.

Naturally, the Leftist praises and celebrates events which spread suffering and death, if it means they get what they want.

You'd think right-wingers online would be cultured enough to recognize irony posting.

[Liriena]

Yooooo, it's seriously beginning to look like I was wrong to doubt comrade coronavirus. In just a few weeks we've gotten a market meltdown and governments around the world, including right-wing kakistocracies like the Trump administration, flirting with progressive policies, and it's all thanks to this one round boy.

I'm a viral accelerationist now.

I think if the Coronavirus shows anything it’s that the government has no place being involved in healthcare, just look at how badly they messed this up, if researchers and drug companies didn’t have to deal with red tape there’d probably be a cure by now

this is such a myopic take good gawd

[Rostavykhan]

Naturally, the Leftist praises and celebrates events which spread suffering and death, if it means they get what they want.

notice the pattern?


its typically times like this is when the mask comes off.

Kind of like Right-Wingers who are also praying for the virus to cripple China and Iran, and/or put a strain on the EU, because it's good for them.

Or people who refer to Wu Flu as "Boomer Remover."

[Liriena]

I think if the Coronavirus shows anything it’s that the government has no place being involved in healthcare, just look at how badly they messed this up, if researchers and drug companies didn’t have to deal with red tape there’d probably be a cure by now

imagine being this ignorant about how medicine works

medical research works best when you have no standards. it is known.

[Liriena]

notice the pattern?


its typically times like this is when the mask comes off.

Kind of like Right-Wingers who are also praying for the virus to cripple China and Iran, and/or put a strain on the EU, because it's good for them.

Or people who refer to Wu Flu as "Boomer Remover."

I still think Winnie the Flu is the superior nickname.

[Proctopeo]

Naturally, the Leftist praises and celebrates events which spread suffering and death, if it means they get what they want.

You'd think right-wingers online would be cultured enough to recognize irony posting.

Given what people honestly believe in CURRENT YEAR +5, it can be hard to discern irony from sincerity.

Kind of like Right-Wingers who are also praying for the virus to cripple China and Iran, and/or put a strain on the EU, because it's good for them.

Or people who refer to Wu Flu as "Boomer Remover."

I still think Winnie the Flu is the superior nickname.

If you want a serious name that still pisses off the Chinese government, call it the "Wuhan Virus" or the "Wuhan Coronavirus".

They want to do everything they can to pin the blame on the US, despite it being pretty much entirely their fault it got this far.