LWDT 8: Hitting the Marx

[Northern Davincia]

So this gay commie wrote a letter to Stalin asking whether homosexuals can be party member.

Stalin's response? “Archive. An idiot and a degenerate. J. Stalin.”

This kinda shit is an example out of many of exactly why the USSR and its derivatives fucking suck and did nothing good for furthering the cause of Socialism.

Perhaps socialism always degenerates into brutishness when practiced on a sufficiently large scale.

[Totally Not OEP]

This kinda shit is an example out of many of exactly why the USSR and its derivatives fucking suck and did nothing good for furthering the cause of Socialism.

Perhaps socialism always degenerates into brutishness when practiced on a sufficiently large scale.

Nah, that can't be it!

[Northern Davincia]

Perhaps socialism always degenerates into brutishness when practiced on a sufficiently large scale.

Nah, that can't be it!

It will work this time, comrade!

[Cappuccina]

Nah, that can't be it!

It will work this time, comrade!

That's pretty much with any ideology that is replayed. Humanity has a knack for belief in bad ideas.....and then wanting another go at it....after it just left your parents and grandparents wiping their asses with wallpaper in the decades prior.

[Rostavykhan]

Perhaps socialism always degenerates into brutishness when practiced on a sufficiently large scale.

Nah, that can't be it!

Lol your ideology didn't even last a decade and left Europe devastated, Socialism is leagues better by comparison.

The only failure of Socialism was Stalin not razing Berlin and driving the Western allies into the Atlantic.

[Cappuccina]

Nah, that can't be it!

Lol your ideology didn't even last a decade and left Europe devastated, Socialism is leagues better by comparison.

The only failure of Socialism was Stalin not razing Berlin and driving the Western allies into the Atlantic.

>Believes Soviets could actually accomplish that coming out of WW2.....

The smartest thing Stalin did was "Socialism in One Country", tbh.

[Rostavykhan]

Lol your ideology didn't even last a decade and left Europe devastated, Socialism is leagues better by comparison.

The only failure of Socialism was Stalin not razing Berlin and driving the Western allies into the Atlantic.

>Believes Soviets could actually accomplish that coming out of WW2.....

The smartest thing Stalin did was "Socialism in One Country", tbh.

I can dream. Feelsbadman.jpg

Socialism In One Country I support, from the standpoint that a nation like the USSR, surrounded by enemies, needed to strengthen itself before turning it's attention to fostering revolution abroad.

[Duvniask]

Nah, that can't be it!

It will work this time, comrade!

Imagine coming to agreement with a fascist about the "brutishness" of socialism.

Also, the laziest argument in existence.

[Asherahan]

Lol your ideology didn't even last a decade and left Europe devastated, Socialism is leagues better by comparison.

The only failure of Socialism was Stalin not razing Berlin and driving the Western allies into the Atlantic.

>Believes Soviets could actually accomplish that coming out of WW2.....

The smartest thing Stalin did was "Socialism in One Country", tbh.

Tbh he actually could you he Soviets had more tanks, planes and troops Stalin just thought though that going to WWIII directly after WWII would not be cool.

[North German Realm]

>Believes Soviets could actually accomplish that coming out of WW2.....

The smartest thing Stalin did was "Socialism in One Country", tbh.

Tbh he actually could you he Soviets had more tanks, planes and troops Stalin just thought though that going to WWIII directly after WWII would not be cool.

Not really. The Soviet war machine was not designed for fighting an enemy that was not outnumbered to a comedic degree, nor was it designed to fight what the Allied powers had set as their own military doctrine. And the moment they actually tried to fight (at least in 1945, before Soviets got their own nukes) they'd be in risk of having Moscow nuked.

[Totenborg]

This kinda shit is an example out of many of exactly why the USSR and its derivatives fucking suck and did nothing good for furthering the cause of Socialism.

Perhaps socialism always degenerates into brutishness when practiced on a sufficiently large scale.

And right libertarianism degenerates into brutishnes immediately. That being said, authoritarian socialism sucks as hard as fascism does.

[Pasong Tirad]

It will work this time, comrade!

Imagine coming to agreement with a fascist about the "brutishness" of socialism.

Also, the laziest argument in existence.

They don't care about being right. This isn't discourse to them, this is a performance. They aren't here to change our minds or broaden their own understanding they're here to own the commies until we give up and leave the forum.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Not sure which of you submitted my ramblings on monarchy to fundies say the darndest things. I'm not angry, but I think you should know I'm not a fundamentalist. Maybe a religious extremist, but not a fundamentalist, given that I'm an LGBT-affirming, evolution-believing, left-leaning, anti-hierarchy, purgatorial universalist. I don't exactly fit the mold of the Baptist preacher down the street.

Also, the irony of the homophobia in the comments on the post is quite amusing, as if it is totally lost on those commenting on it.

[Rostavykhan]

>UMN
>Fundus

Yeah...I don't see it. I mean, "extremist", maybe-ish? I don't think "fundamentalist" though. Fundamentalist has more of a connotation of being irrational and rabid IMO. UMN is usually one of the more chill people on the site in my experience.

And I say that as an agnostic who heavily dislikes most religion.

[Hanafuridake]

Nah, that can't be it!

Lol your ideology didn't even last a decade and left Europe devastated, Socialism is leagues better by comparison.

The only failure of Socialism was Stalin not razing Berlin and driving the Western allies into the Atlantic.

That would imply Stalin was competent enough to be able to do that.

[Washington Resistance Army]

>Believes Soviets could actually accomplish that coming out of WW2.....

The smartest thing Stalin did was "Socialism in One Country", tbh.

Tbh he actually could you he Soviets had more tanks, planes and troops Stalin just thought though that going to WWIII directly after WWII would not be cool.

Lotta good that's gonna do the Soviets when the US drops a couple bombs and cuts off the Red Army entirely and famine sets in across the homeland along with Soviet industry being crippled due to the sudden lack of British and American resources flowing in.

[Salus Maior]

Not sure which of you submitted my ramblings on monarchy to fundies say the darndest things. I'm not angry, but I think you should know I'm not a fundamentalist. Maybe a religious extremist, but not a fundamentalist, given that I'm an LGBT-affirming, evolution-believing, left-leaning, anti-hierarchy, purgatorial universalist. I don't exactly fit the mold of the Baptist preacher down the street.

Also, the irony of the homophobia in the comments on the post is quite amusing, as if it is totally lost on those commenting on it.

Const also ended up on the site. And there's a pretty great deal of people who aren't even fundamentalists on the site.

It's just a pathetic circlejerk. If they actually cared about anything other than mocking people for certain posts, they'd actually be debating.

But the site is specifically made so they can just mock, rather than discuss anything. Or, hell, be criticized themselves.

[Hanafuridake]

Tbh he actually could you he Soviets had more tanks, planes and troops Stalin just thought though that going to WWIII directly after WWII would not be cool.

Lotta good that's gonna do the Soviets when the US drops a couple bombs and cuts off the Red Army entirely and famine sets in across the homeland along with Soviet industry being crippled due to the sudden lack of British and American resources flowing in.

The only thing that the Soviet declaration of war on the Allies would've changed is that Moscow and Stalingrad would've been nuked instead of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[North German Realm]

Lotta good that's gonna do the Soviets when the US drops a couple bombs and cuts off the Red Army entirely and famine sets in across the homeland along with Soviet industry being crippled due to the sudden lack of British and American resources flowing in.

The only thing that the Soviet declaration of war on the Allies would've changed is that Moscow and Stalingrad would've been nuked instead of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Weren't there enough nukes for the both of them?

[Duvniask]

Lotta good that's gonna do the Soviets when the US drops a couple bombs and cuts off the Red Army entirely and famine sets in across the homeland along with Soviet industry being crippled due to the sudden lack of British and American resources flowing in.

The only thing that the Soviet declaration of war on the Allies would've changed is that Moscow and Stalingrad would've been nuked instead of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Given its near total destruction, Stalingrad would most likely not have been chosen as a target.

[North German Realm]

The only thing that the Soviet declaration of war on the Allies would've changed is that Moscow and Stalingrad would've been nuked instead of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Given its near total destruction, Stalingrad would most likely not have been chosen as a target.

Honestly striking Moscow alone would be enough to neuter the Union as a threat in perpetuity, at least at that point. What I'm wondering is how they'd go around partitioning the USSR after its inevitable defeat.

[Cappuccina]

Not sure which of you submitted my ramblings on monarchy to fundies say the darndest things. I'm not angry, but I think you should know I'm not a fundamentalist. Maybe a religious extremist, but not a fundamentalist, given that I'm an LGBT-affirming, evolution-believing, left-leaning, anti-hierarchy, purgatorial universalist. I don't exactly fit the mold of the Baptist preacher down the street.

Also, the irony of the homophobia in the comments on the post is quite amusing, as if it is totally lost on those commenting on it.

I'm sure it is lost on them UMN, it's hilarious.

[Crysuko]

Not sure which of you submitted my ramblings on monarchy to fundies say the darndest things. I'm not angry, but I think you should know I'm not a fundamentalist. Maybe a religious extremist, but not a fundamentalist, given that I'm an LGBT-affirming, evolution-believing, left-leaning, anti-hierarchy, purgatorial universalist. I don't exactly fit the mold of the Baptist preacher down the street.

Also, the irony of the homophobia in the comments on the post is quite amusing, as if it is totally lost on those commenting on it.

what? where?

[Duvniask]

Given its near total destruction, Stalingrad would most likely not have been chosen as a target.

Honestly striking Moscow alone would be enough to neuter the Union as a threat in perpetuity, at least at that point. What I'm wondering is how they'd go around partitioning the USSR after its inevitable defeat.

In any event, an attack from either side was unlikely to happen just after the war had ended; tankies gonna be tankies, thinks the USSR was invincible. Also, the idea that the Western Allies could (not to mention should) have attacked is also unrealistic.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Not sure which of you submitted my ramblings on monarchy to fundies say the darndest things. I'm not angry, but I think you should know I'm not a fundamentalist. Maybe a religious extremist, but not a fundamentalist, given that I'm an LGBT-affirming, evolution-believing, left-leaning, anti-hierarchy, purgatorial universalist. I don't exactly fit the mold of the Baptist preacher down the street.

Also, the irony of the homophobia in the comments on the post is quite amusing, as if it is totally lost on those commenting on it.

what? where?

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