LWDT 8: Hitting the Marx

[Rostavykhan]

>Trying to fight the USSR

How long until China also gets involved? Mao's victory isn't far off by 1945, especially if the KMT isn't getting as much support because everyone is fighting in Europe again. Unless China has no reason to support the USSR at that time, that's six-hundred million screaming Chinamen now to also worry about, and if they don't have any way to help in Europe, there's still Korea and the Far East. What about Japan? They're not Socialist, but they're still freshly occupied as well, and not happy about it, not the mention the American occupation means that much fewer men fighting in Europe.

Also wonder how many minor nations like Brazil or Mexico would be willing to provide aid.

[Northern Davincia]

remember kiddies: if your commanders plan is "and the people will rise with us", desert at the soonest possible opportunity, because you are going to die.

How many Allied soldiers do you think would've actually been okay with a shoddy plan wherein they're kickstarting a new world war after just finishing the deadliest war in history and fighting side-by-side with a reformed Wehrmacht against the USSR in a blatant act of betrayal against their Soviet allies, all while their new allies were the guys directly responsible for millions of atrocities and over a million deaths among the Western Allies alone?

I'd imagine the desertion rates would've been delicious if the Western Allies tried preparing for that plan in any serious capacity tbqh.

>betrayal
The Soviets stole nuclear weapons plans almost immediately after the war. They were never to be trusted as real allies, but regarded as allies of a temporary truce. The Soviets committed plenty of atrocities on their own, as did the French and British.

[Cekoviu]

Wow. If you put your head any deeper in the sand, you'd hit lava.

Just because you hear about something a lot doesn't mean it actually happens a lot, Cekky.

Honest question: Do you have a ResetERA account?

What the fuck is ResetERA?

[Rostavykhan]

Just because you hear about something a lot doesn't mean it actually happens a lot, Cekky.

Honest question: Do you have a ResetERA account?

What the fuck is ResetERA?

AIDs.

[Cekoviu]

What the fuck is ResetERA?

AIDs.

I don't truat any opinion coming from an authoritarian socialist.

[Izandai]

Nobody:
Not a soul:
Hillary Clinton: "Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian Agent.".

This is false. Clinton said there was a woman among the democratic candidates who was being "groomed" by Russia to run as a third party candidate. She did not name anyone. Tulsi Gabbard and everyone else decided that's who she was talking about... Because Tulsi Gabbard acts an awful lot like you'd expect someone with Russian support and backing to act.

[Kubra]

-snip-

snipping cuz, y'know, easier.

Anyways, it hardly matters if individual divisions are understrengthed, as the soviets had the overall numbers and most of them already in a position on the theoretical frontine. This isn't even counting the large amount of support they had behind the allied lines, already accustomed to operating as insurgents and already armed, and already communicating with the Soviets. It'd be basically impossible to go through with a surprise attack, because there's no way a whole bunch of divisions placed on the soviet centre could at all go unnoticed.
As for the question of nuking Poland, well I don't need to be the one to tell you how that ends up playing out on the political level, especially while negotiating for Poland's status in the first place. Lwow, ehh, well, go for it.
Regarding the economy, industrial potential makes itself felt in prolonged conflicts. The only prolonged period would likely be after the soviets had run a train over Europe and the Middle East, as was projected to occur in the first place.

[Liriena]

I hate alternate history.

[Dumb Ideologies]

I hate alternate history.

we already live in the weirdest timeline.

[First American Empire]

I hate alternate history.

we already live in the weirdest timeline.

I dunno, my nation can get really weird sometimes.

[North German Realm]

I hate alternate history.

Idk, it's actually a pretty interesting thing to play with.

[Nakena]

I hate alternate history.

It can be interesting sometimes. But not so much when its overdone scenarios at the cost of others.

[North German Realm]

I hate alternate history.

It can be interesting sometimes. But not so much when its overdone scenarios at the cost of others.

Well at least "Allies continue WW2 after Germany gets pwned" is not as overdone as "Germany wins WW2" (or to a lesser point, Germany wins WW1)

[Nakena]

It can be interesting sometimes. But not so much when its overdone scenarios at the cost of others.

Well at least "Allies continue WW2 after Germany gets pwned" is not as overdone as "Germany wins WW2" (or to a lesser point, Germany wins WW1)

Indeed thats true. I'd think it would be interesting how that would work out in the long run.

My favorite remains Douglas MacArthur ousting Truman and establishing the American Empire with heavy point on Pacific and Asia.

[New haven america]

I hate alternate history.

Then stop it.

[North German Realm]

Well at least "Allies continue WW2 after Germany gets pwned" is not as overdone as "Germany wins WW2" (or to a lesser point, Germany wins WW1)

Indeed thats true. I'd think it would be interesting how that would work out in the long run.

My favorite remains Douglas MacArthur ousting Truman and establishing the American Empire with heavy point on Pacific and Asia.

MacArthur getting to nuke China and bring about WW3 is also a pretty cool idea. Or the Prussian Scheme somehow ending successfully.

[Hanafuridake]

I hate alternate history.

The only thing I'm grateful about the Trump Administration is that we don't have to deal with What if Trump Won alt-hist scenarios.

[Loben The 2nd]

I hate alternate history.

The only thing I'm grateful about the Trump Administration is that we don't have to deal with What if Trump Won alt-hist scenarios.

Probably would’ve looked like man in the high castle if you follow the hysterics.

[Risastorstein]

Nobody:
Not a soul:
Hillary Clinton: "Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian Agent.".

This is false. Clinton said there was a woman among the democratic candidates who was being "groomed" by Russia to run as a third party candidate. She did not name anyone. Tulsi Gabbard and everyone else decided that's who she was talking about... Because Tulsi Gabbard acts an awful lot like you'd expect someone with Russian support and backing to act.

What's better than having Hillary Clinton say that you are bad?
All press is good press.

[Dumb Ideologies]

This is false. Clinton said there was a woman among the democratic candidates who was being "groomed" by Russia to run as a third party candidate. She did not name anyone. Tulsi Gabbard and everyone else decided that's who she was talking about... Because Tulsi Gabbard acts an awful lot like you'd expect someone with Russian support and backing to act.

What's better than having Hillary Clinton say that you are bad?
All press is good press.

Criticism from Hillary is like getting savaged by an unplugged robot.

[Torrocca]

I hate alternate history.

Idk, it's actually a pretty interesting thing to play with.

Actual alt-history is definitely fun.

Ranting incessantly that your favorite group of people of the day will definitively win a hypothetical war - in a thread where that hypothetical only has a nominal amount of relevancy because it name-drops the USSR, in fact - by doing literally only one thing that you feel like is the definitive key to victory because you misinterpreted or just outright ignored what historians have to say on the subject and then never bothering to account for literally any of the millions or billions of factors that go into scenarios with as broad of a scope as something like starting WW3 mere weeks after WW2's end happens to have is the opposite of that.

It's absurdism to the highest degree imaginable.

[Ostroeuropa]

Kaiserreich is the original timeline and ours is the weird althistory reboot.

[Proctopeo]

Just because you hear about something a lot doesn't mean it actually happens a lot, Cekky.

Honest question: Do you have a ResetERA account?

What the fuck is ResetERA?

A... gaming forum, in the strict sense that they discuss games, but given many of their takes, I doubt most users play video games. They mostly complain incessantly about everything and anything, especially people complaining about things actually worthy of complaining about.

For context, ResetERA was founded by the political part of the NeoGAF userbase. With them, they brought their absurd bans and insane userbase, and perhaps even the pedophilia.


As a follow-up question, where do you get your information on this topic from?

[Crysuko]

Kaiserreich is the original timeline and ours is the weird althistory reboot.

Broke: KR is the original timeline
Woke: KR is our timeline, but a century too early

[Ostroeuropa]

What the fuck is ResetERA?

A... gaming forum, in the strict sense that they discuss games, but given many of their takes, I doubt most users play video games. They mostly complain incessantly about everything and anything, especially people complaining about things actually worthy of complaining about.

For context, ResetERA was founded by the political part of the NeoGAF userbase. With them, they brought their absurd bans and insane userbase, and perhaps even the pedophilia.


As a follow-up question, where do you get your information on this topic from?

150,000 racist minorities, sexist women, and cuckold white men.

Despite being founded explicitly for the purpose of feminist wingnuttery, 20% of the users have been banned permanently due to an escalation of some and the users peaking and being like "Seems kind of anti white/anti male". Prior history does not save them. They are merely deep cover MRA/Nazi/Gator/Bernie Bro/Whatever.

When you account for lurkers, the pool of people who post is a fraction of their actual subscribers. It's a clique.

It's because it's not a sincere worldview and cannot exist without an enemy to hate. It is merely a series of excuses and rationalization.

Prolonged periods without new blood to bully and gaslight and ban eventually see the regulars begin advocating violence against whites or males until someone complains, or turning on eachother.