I said nothing about liking it. Indifference would better describe my current attitude towards it.
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by Salus Maior » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:51 am
Pasong Tirad wrote:The amount of people attempting to justify the Turkish ethnic cleansing of Rojava is absolutely despicable.
by Proctopeo » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:55 am
Salus Maior wrote:Pasong Tirad wrote:The amount of people attempting to justify the Turkish ethnic cleansing of Rojava is absolutely despicable.
Are they actually ethnic cleansing them?
Regardless, as harsh as it may seem, I don't have much sympathy for the Kurds. They did, after all, get the land they live on now by participating in the Armenian Genocide.
by Salus Maior » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:59 am
Proctopeo wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
Are they actually ethnic cleansing them?
Regardless, as harsh as it may seem, I don't have much sympathy for the Kurds. They did, after all, get the land they live on now by participating in the Armenian Genocide.
joke: dividing the region between Turkey, Iraq, Syria, and Iran
broke: giving the region to the Kurds
woke: restoring the true extent of Armenia
by Torrocca » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:02 am
Salus Maior wrote:Pasong Tirad wrote:The amount of people attempting to justify the Turkish ethnic cleansing of Rojava is absolutely despicable.
Are they actually ethnic cleansing them?
Regardless, as harsh as it may seem, I don't have much sympathy for the Kurds. They did, after all, get the land they live on now by participating in the Armenian Genocide.
by The New California Republic » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:03 am
by Salus Maior » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:05 am
Torrocca wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
Are they actually ethnic cleansing them?
Regardless, as harsh as it may seem, I don't have much sympathy for the Kurds. They did, after all, get the land they live on now by participating in the Armenian Genocide.
Quick question: what's your opinion on making white people pay reparations for the descendants of slaves?
by Torrocca » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:06 am
by Salus Maior » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:09 am
Torrocca wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
If it were done during the Reconstruction, and only applying reparations to actually guilty party, i.e plantation owners, then I wouldn't have a problem with it.
So you'd have a problem with making future generations of white people pay reparations to the descendants of slaves, correct?
by Salus Maior » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:12 am
Proctopeo wrote:Yes it was. Unfortunately, nobody felt inclined to fully enforce it.
by Torrocca » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:13 am
The problem with your accusation is that I'm not calling for anything on the Kurds. I just don't have any sympathy for them, it's passive.
Why should I care if they, the perpetrators and profiteers of genocide and ethnic cleansing, receive that in turn?
by Salus Maior » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:20 am
Torrocca wrote:
So you have a passive lack of care that the current-day Kurds - some of whom's ancestors participated in the Armenian genocide - are going to be genocided themselves, but you would have grievances with punishing white people by forcing them to pay reparations to the descendants of slaves because some of their ancestors participated in slavery.
Epic hypocrisy, my dude.
by North German Realm » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:21 am
Salus Maior wrote:Torrocca wrote:
So you have a passive lack of care that the current-day Kurds - some of whom's ancestors participated in the Armenian genocide - are going to be genocided themselves, but you would have grievances with punishing white people by forcing them to pay reparations to the descendants of slaves because some of their ancestors participated in slavery.
Epic hypocrisy, my dude.
This is really pathetic in how far you're reaching.
Not every white person has profited off of slavery or the slave trade (unless you think Finns and Komi peoples also share slavery-guilt by some convoluted metric). Plantation owners and slave traders did, so if you can track their descendants down and they still have wealth born from slavery, then that's fair to apply reparations. I don't think it's practical to do so considering it was so long ago, but I wouldn't object if they managed to track them down and apply a tax.
The Kurds, on most of the land they live on now, was taken from Armenians and other minorities targeted by the Young Turks (a cursory look at old ethnic distributions with modern ones would show this is true). They got that land by making a deal with the Devil, as it were. And now, as it were, the Devil's come after them.
Boo Hoo.
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Torrocca » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:26 am
Salus Maior wrote:Torrocca wrote:
So you have a passive lack of care that the current-day Kurds - some of whom's ancestors participated in the Armenian genocide - are going to be genocided themselves, but you would have grievances with punishing white people by forcing them to pay reparations to the descendants of slaves because some of their ancestors participated in slavery.
Epic hypocrisy, my dude.
This is really pathetic in how far you're reaching.
Not every white person has profited off of slavery or the slave trade (unless you think Finns and Komi peoples also share slavery-guilt by some convoluted metric). Plantation owners and slave traders did, so if you can track their descendants down and they still have wealth born from slavery, then that's fair to apply reparations. I don't think it's practical to do so considering it was so long ago, but I wouldn't object if they managed to track them down and apply a tax.
The Kurds, on most of the land they live on now, was taken from Armenians and other minorities targeted by the Young Turks (a cursory look at old ethnic distributions with modern ones would show this is true). They got that land by making a deal with the Devil, as it were. And now, as it were, the Devil's come after them.
Boo Hoo.
by North German Realm » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:28 am
Nakena wrote:What does LWDT think about National Bolshevism?
Those are the only forms of bolshevism i could get behind with. ^^
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Nakena » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:31 am
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