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Under which leaders (if any) was the Soviet Union socialist?

Lenin (1918-1924)
411
34%
Stalin (1924-1953)
223
19%
Khrushchev (1953-1964)
149
12%
Brezhnev (1964-1982)
125
10%
Gorbachev (1985-1991)
126
10%
Never
167
14%
 
Total votes : 1201

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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:07 pm

Ahh, political tests the road to questioning the realm between reality, and beyond.
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:13 pm

Changing my vote to Contra after her latest video. 100% better than I was expecting, and 200% better than PhilosophyTube's video.
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Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:14 pm

Benuty wrote:Ahh, political tests the road to questioning the realm between reality, and beyond.

now here's a garden path sentence if ever there was one
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:14 pm

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Changing my vote to Contra after her latest video. 100% better than I was expecting, and 200% better than PhilosophyTube's video.

I'll have to watch her newest one, while I like her videos a lot more than Ollie's, I tend to find that her's are a lot more style than substance.
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:16 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Changing my vote to Contra after her latest video. 100% better than I was expecting, and 200% better than PhilosophyTube's video.

I'll have to watch her newest one, while I like her videos a lot more than Ollie's, I tend to find that her's are a lot more style than substance.

This one was the flip of that, then. I feel like she focused a lot more on making a genuine attempt at critiquing the gynocentric views of feminism while keeping within Leftism, authenticity, and her experiences. I appreciate that.
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:24 pm

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I'll have to watch her newest one, while I like her videos a lot more than Ollie's, I tend to find that her's are a lot more style than substance.

This one was the flip of that, then. I feel like she focused a lot more on making a genuine attempt at critiquing the gynocentric views of feminism while keeping within Leftism, authenticity, and her experiences. I appreciate that.

Hmm.
What was her conclusion? Was it daring or weaselly?
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:27 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:This one was the flip of that, then. I feel like she focused a lot more on making a genuine attempt at critiquing the gynocentric views of feminism while keeping within Leftism, authenticity, and her experiences. I appreciate that.

Hmm.
What was her conclusion? Was it daring or weaselly?

You'll have to form your own opinion based on the video. It got a bit weaselly, but only in the sense of her admitting she didn't have the answer, which I actually consider to be a virtuous admission on her part, especially in a crowd that prides itself on making a "science" out of history.
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:30 pm

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Hmm.
What was her conclusion? Was it daring or weaselly?

You'll have to form your own opinion based on the video.

I find her too obnoxious to watch, hence why I asked.

It got a bit weaselly, but only in the sense of her admitting she didn't have the answer, which I actually consider to be a virtuous admission on her part, especially in a crowd that prides itself on making a "science" out of history.

Well, that's something.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:35 pm

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I would have to read more into it, but I do like the idea of self-reliance that Juche is based on.

I, too, value totalitarianism and poverty.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:42 pm

I've been rediscovering my love of Italian Partisan music. MCR really puts a nice spin on some of them.
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Postby Grand Proudhonia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:45 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:I've been rediscovering my love of Italian Partisan music. MCR really puts a nice spin on some of them.

Bella Ciao is a classic tbh
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:52 pm

Grand Proudhonia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I've been rediscovering my love of Italian Partisan music. MCR really puts a nice spin on some of them.

Bella Ciao is a classic tbh

It's a really good one but tbh I prefer fischia il vento
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Postby Cappuccina » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:14 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Changing my vote to Contra after her latest video. 100% better than I was expecting, and 200% better than PhilosophyTube's video.

I'll have to watch her newest one, while I like her videos a lot more than Ollie's, I tend to find that her's are a lot more style than substance.

How? She displays substance with style. :p
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:15 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I'll have to watch her newest one, while I like her videos a lot more than Ollie's, I tend to find that her's are a lot more style than substance.

How? She displays substance with style. :p

It makes me feel like she's trying too hard, the flamboyance of it all reminds me of a nightclub or something.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:16 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:How? She displays substance with style. :p

It makes me feel like she's trying too hard, the flamboyance of it all reminds me of a nightclub or something.

You go to nightclubs?
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Postby Grand Proudhonia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:16 pm

I prefer to just read to get my dosage of political theory rather than follow personalities that have way to much flair but thats me
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Postby Cappuccina » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:17 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:How? She displays substance with style. :p

It makes me feel like she's trying too hard, the flamboyance of it all reminds me of a nightclub or something.

She has a flamboyant personality.....so I mean.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:19 pm

Kowani wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It makes me feel like she's trying too hard, the flamboyance of it all reminds me of a nightclub or something.

You go to nightclubs?

I've been to exactly one, and never back, if that gives you an idea as to how I feel about them.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:19 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It makes me feel like she's trying too hard, the flamboyance of it all reminds me of a nightclub or something.

She has a flamboyant personality.....so I mean.

It can be a little much sometimes.
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Postby Cappuccina » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:19 pm

Grand Proudhonia wrote:I prefer to just read to get my dosage of political theory rather than follow personalities that have way to much flair but thats me

Both can be done my friend, life is rarely black and white.
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Postby Grand Proudhonia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:21 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Grand Proudhonia wrote:I prefer to just read to get my dosage of political theory rather than follow personalities that have way to much flair but thats me

Both can be done my friend, life is rarely black and white.

Im not saying it cant im just saying I much prefer not to
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:22 pm

If you want political theory, read a fucking book.
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Postby Cappuccina » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:23 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:She has a flamboyant personality.....so I mean.

It can be a little much sometimes.

It can, I have a nearly opposite personality type from Contra (and political disposition too), but I find her very intelligent and can tolerate some of her more odd quirks because of that.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:23 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It can be a little much sometimes.

It can, I have a nearly opposite personality type from Contra (and political disposition too), but I find her very intelligent and can tolerate some of her more odd quirks because of that.

I can tolerate her in small doses.
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Postby Grand Proudhonia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:24 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:If you want political theory, read a fucking book.


Yeah... like

What Is Property - Pierre Joseph Proudhon

I might be biased but oh well
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