LWDT 8: Hitting the Marx

[Cekoviu]

TFW the mainstream left is so fucking shit and insular that even Fox News are the good guys in comparison:


Fox News Viewers like Bernie Sanders more than MSNBC viewers do.

https://www.businessinsider.sg/fox-news ... cs-2019-5/

It's almost like *gasp!* Liberals aren't leftists.

However, conservatives apparently are.

[Torrocca]

It's almost like *gasp!* Liberals aren't leftists.

However, conservatives apparently are.

I'd argue your run-of-the-mill Fox News viewer is more or less your average worker who got jaded by the status quo Liberalism and faux wokeness of the Democrats and conned by the false promises of pro-working class action from the Republicans. There's a reason the Joe Rogan interview with Bernie received so much positivity from the viewers despite Rogan's show being infamous for primarily hosting right-wing pundits spreading their garbage, and there's equally a reason why Fox News viewers are seeing Bernie with so much positivity when he's so passionate and dedicated to the promises he's making about working to better the conditions of the majority of Americans.

[Bojikami]

So I took a politiscales, bc I haven't done one in a while, and turns out I'm an anarchist lol

[Cekoviu]

However, conservatives apparently are.

I'd argue your run-of-the-mill Fox News viewer is more or less your average worker who got jaded by the status quo Liberalism and faux wokeness of the Democrats and conned by the false promises of pro-working class action from the Republicans. There's a reason the Joe Rogan interview with Bernie received so much positivity from the viewers despite Rogan's show being infamous for primarily hosting right-wing pundits spreading their garbage, and there's equally a reason why Fox News viewers are seeing Bernie with so much positivity when he's so passionate and dedicated to the promises he's making about working to better the conditions of the majority of Americans.

It's not Fox News viewers. It's Fox News viewers who were "likely to vote in the Democratic primaries."

[Benuty]

However, conservatives apparently are.

I'd argue your run-of-the-mill Fox News viewer is more or less your average worker who got jaded by the status quo Liberalism and faux wokeness of the Democrats and conned by the false promises of pro-working class action from the Republicans. There's a reason the Joe Rogan interview with Bernie received so much positivity from the viewers despite Rogan's show being infamous for primarily hosting right-wing pundits spreading their garbage, and there's equally a reason why Fox News viewers are seeing Bernie with so much positivity when he's so passionate and dedicated to the promises he's making about working to better the conditions of the majority of Americans.

To add to this I can actually stand Bernie versus the majority of the candidates running. While I like Tulsi I simply don't see her time as president yet especially with the way some of these candidates are trying to stab each other apart to climb atop the pile of rubble. As much as I disagree with the man on policies due to financial feasibility at least he doesn't make wonder who gave him access to technology. I am referring to the weirdly surreal videos by AOC she posts concerning Ikea, and other things in an attempt to relate to people.

[Heloin]

TFW the mainstream left is so fucking shit and insular that even Fox News are the good guys in comparison:


Fox News Viewers like Bernie Sanders more than MSNBC viewers do.

https://www.businessinsider.sg/fox-news ... cs-2019-5/

It's almost like *gasp!* Liberals aren't leftists.

10 degrees to the left of center in good times, 10 degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally.

[Torrocca]

I'd argue your run-of-the-mill Fox News viewer is more or less your average worker who got jaded by the status quo Liberalism and faux wokeness of the Democrats and conned by the false promises of pro-working class action from the Republicans. There's a reason the Joe Rogan interview with Bernie received so much positivity from the viewers despite Rogan's show being infamous for primarily hosting right-wing pundits spreading their garbage, and there's equally a reason why Fox News viewers are seeing Bernie with so much positivity when he's so passionate and dedicated to the promises he's making about working to better the conditions of the majority of Americans.

It's not Fox News viewers. It's Fox News viewers who were "likely to vote in the Democratic primaries."

Hmm. Well, half of the country's states do happen to have open primaries, and a lot of those are in traditionally poorer states, so it's not too great of a stretch to argue that a number of the voters on that poll were just average Fox News viewers in general. Though that is a fair point otherwise.

EDIT: To add to this, Fox's recent poll on the general election has Bernie beating Trump 48-39, only a couple of points behind Biden's 50-38.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I don't really like any of the people in the poll.

[Nakena]

What the fuck is a "breadtuber"?

It would make sense if they would make videos about, bread baking. Which is something I might get into.

Oh and of course Contrapoints gets my vote.

[Cappuccina]

Out of those, PBS, though Contra is a close second for me.

Can't tell if this is a joke or real.

Nope, actually serious. I don't joke very often tbh.

[Czechostan]

What the fuck is a "breadtuber"?

Leftist YouTubers. It's a reference to Kropotkin's "the Conquest of Bread."

[Torrocca]

What the fuck is a "breadtuber"?

It would make sense if they would make videos about, bread baking. Which is something I might get into.

Oh and of course Contrapoints gets my vote.

A reference to Petr Kropotkin's The Conquest of Bread, applied to the section of Youtube known for making videos covering a large variety of leftist theory and philosophy.

[Czechostan]

I don't really watch any of their videos aside from ContraPoints. I learn the most from her videos hands down.

[Nakena]

I don't really watch any of their videos aside from ContraPoints. I learn the most from her videos hands down.

Same here, they're great at deprogramming indoctrination. I hope someday she makes an ASMR style video. (i should add though many of her video already have regardless this effect when she uses her soft spoken voice)

[Cappuccina]

I don't really watch any of their videos aside from ContraPoints. I learn the most from her videos hands down.

I watch and like Contra, not necessarily because I agree with her conclusions (most of the time I actually don't), but I enjoy the presentation style, her personality, and the philosophical depth she goes into in her videos...very thought provoking.

[Electic]

So I took a politiscales, bc I haven't done one in a while, and turns out I'm an anarchist lol

I've never taken one of these before. Surprisingly more right leaning than I thought.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

I don't really like any of the people in the poll.

This. I don't really like political commentators on youtube tbh.

I'm more into the history scene.

[Cappuccina]

I don't really like any of the people in the poll.

This. I don't really like political commentators on youtube tbh.

I'm more into the history scene.

Not all political YTers are terrible though. BPS is pretty solid, so is Contra, and unironically Tim Poole.

[Kowani]

This. I don't really like political commentators on youtube tbh.

I'm more into the history scene.

Not all political YTers are terrible though. BPS is pretty solid, so is Contra, and unironically Tim Poole.

I don’t understand how you like BPS...

[Jack Thomas Lang]

Not all political YTers are terrible though. BPS is pretty solid, so is Contra, and unironically Tim Poole.

I cannot watch Contrapoints, partly because she doesn't pass all that well (to be precise, I cannot unsee/unknow that she's trans).

[New haven america]

Not all political YTers are terrible though. BPS is pretty solid, so is Contra, and unironically Tim Poole.

I cannot watch Contrapoints, partly because she doesn't pass all that well (to be precise, I cannot unsee/unknow that she's trans).

She has an entire segment about that in her Incel video, about how there's an entire subsection of self-hating trans people who believe they can never fully transition because they feel like they can't pass as their desired gender. (Similar to how incels believe they can never date or get married because they're biologically inferior)

She even admits that she used to be a part of that group.

[Nakena]

I don't really like any of the people in the poll.

This. I don't really like political commentators on youtube tbh.

I'm more into the history scene.

With September 2019 getting close, this guy might be of interest

Historically speaking.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

With September 2019 getting close, this guy might be of interest

Historically speaking.

I had no idea Indy made a WW2 series. Well, there goes my weekend.

[Cappuccina]

Not all political YTers are terrible though. BPS is pretty solid, so is Contra, and unironically Tim Poole.

I don’t understand how you like BPS...

I agree with much of his views on the faults of modern "culture", not really hard to imagine for me is it?

Not all political YTers are terrible though. BPS is pretty solid, so is Contra, and unironically Tim Poole.

I cannot watch Contrapoints, partly because she doesn't pass all that well (to be precise, I cannot unsee/unknow that she's trans).

That may well be, however I don't watch people for their appearance. As a follow trans, I see her content as insightful, even if I don't agree with her conclusions on many things.Also, there's nothing to under, she doesn't hide the fact she's trans.....

[Cappuccina]

I cannot watch Contrapoints, partly because she doesn't pass all that well (to be precise, I cannot unsee/unknow that she's trans).

She has an entire segment about that in her Incel video, about how there's an entire subsection of self-hating trans people who believe they can never fully transition because they feel like they can't pass as their desired gender. (Similar to how incels believe they can never date or get married because they're biologically inferior)

She even admits that she used to be a part of that group.

I absolutely loved her vid on Incels, spot on! And the part where she made the parallel with her trans experience, hit home for me hard AF.