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Under which leaders (if any) was the Soviet Union socialist?

Lenin (1918-1924)
411
34%
Stalin (1924-1953)
223
19%
Khrushchev (1953-1964)
149
12%
Brezhnev (1964-1982)
125
10%
Gorbachev (1985-1991)
126
10%
Never
167
14%
 
Total votes : 1201
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:53 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I reckon the poll should be this;

Bernie or Rosa? That simple.

Rosa who? Luxemburg? Diaz?

Luxemburg, because Diaz would win too easily.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:54 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Waiting for permission/lack thereof from Torrocca to reuse the old OP to edit the OP.

Okay, but when you do, make the poll "Who is your favorite breadtuber?"
Answers:
- ContraPoints
- Hbomberguy
- Three Arrows
- Shaun
- Maoist Rebel News
- Black Pigeon Speaks
- Stefan Molyneux


I'm pretty sure Black Pigeon is right leaning.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:55 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Okay, but when you do, make the poll "Who is your favorite breadtuber?"
Answers:
- ContraPoints
- Hbomberguy
- Three Arrows
- Shaun
- Maoist Rebel News
- Black Pigeon Speaks
- Stefan Molyneux


I'm pretty sure Black Pigeon is right leaning.

He is a right-wing nationalist.
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Chernoslavia
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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:56 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
I'm pretty sure Black Pigeon is right leaning.

He is a right-wing nationalist.


Yeah so the list confuses me.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:59 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:He is a right-wing nationalist.


Yeah so the list confuses me.

It's suppose to be a list of Left-wing to Far-left YouTubers, but it accidentally turned into a "one of these things is not like the others; one of these things doesn't belong" situation. Someone screwed up.
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Jean-Paul Sartre
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:04 pm

OP has been updated, for evil.
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Postby Kremlinian Russia » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:06 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Yeah so the list confuses me.

It's suppose to be a list of Left-wing to Far-left YouTubers, but it accidentally turned into a "one of these things is not like the others; one of these things doesn't belong" situation. Someone screwed up.

Yeah, Molyneux being there is also cursed. And there's no Finbol either, who is a left wing YouTuber of some stature.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:07 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kowani wrote:I see I managed to escape.


For now, but we'll be back, and in greater numbers.

Well…umm…Crap.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:07 pm

Kowani wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
For now, but we'll be back, and in greater numbers.

Well…umm…Crap.


>>>:3

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:OP has been updated, for evil.


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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:08 pm

So I'm seeing a breadtuber poll request dominating. I'm willing to do that, but just so you know, it's not gonna have everyone. I will try to include all the bigger ones, though.
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The South Falls
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:11 pm

Kremlinian Russia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:It's suppose to be a list of Left-wing to Far-left YouTubers, but it accidentally turned into a "one of these things is not like the others; one of these things doesn't belong" situation. Someone screwed up.

Yeah, Molyneux being there is also cursed. And there's no Finbol either, who is a left wing YouTuber of some stature.

Molyneux is full of shit?
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Postby Kremlinian Russia » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:12 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Kremlinian Russia wrote:Yeah, Molyneux being there is also cursed. And there's no Finbol either, who is a left wing YouTuber of some stature.

Molyneux is full of shit?

Guy's a literal white supremacist isn't he?
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:12 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Kremlinian Russia wrote:Yeah, Molyneux being there is also cursed. And there's no Finbol either, who is a left wing YouTuber of some stature.

Molyneux is full of shit?

Yeah, he's a cultist and a liar.

In news unrelated to the ancap supreme, poll is up!
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Postby Kowani » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:16 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kowani wrote:Well…umm…Crap.


>>>:3

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:OP has been updated, for evil.


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Postby The South Falls » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:18 pm

Kremlinian Russia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Molyneux is full of shit?

Guy's a literal white supremacist isn't he?

meant to be a period
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Molyneux is full of shit?

Yeah, he's a cultist and a liar.

In news unrelated to the ancap supreme, poll is up!

YES! UNITE!
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:25 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Okay, but when you do, make the poll "Who is your favorite breadtuber?"
Answers:
- ContraPoints
- Hbomberguy
- Three Arrows
- Shaun
- Maoist Rebel News
- Black Pigeon Speaks
- Stefan Molyneux


I'm pretty sure Black Pigeon is right leaning.

Image
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Postby Kowani » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:31 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
I'm pretty sure Black Pigeon is right leaning.

Image

I’m stealing that.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:45 pm

Hot Take: Bernie Sanders going full edgelord to avenge his family in Red World by going national bolshevik, killing thousands on mayday, overthrowing the government, and assassinating Bill Gates is the greatest outcome for the former American states.
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Postby Cappuccina » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:47 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Waiting for permission/lack thereof from Torrocca to reuse the old OP to edit the OP.

Okay, but when you do, make the poll "Who is your favorite breadtuber?"
Answers:
- ContraPoints
- Hbomberguy
- Three Arrows
- Shaun
- Maoist Rebel News
- Black Pigeon Speaks
- Stefan Molyneux

Out of those, PBS, though Contra is a close second for me.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:14 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Okay, but when you do, make the poll "Who is your favorite breadtuber?"
Answers:
- ContraPoints
- Hbomberguy
- Three Arrows
- Shaun
- Maoist Rebel News
- Black Pigeon Speaks
- Stefan Molyneux

Out of those, PBS, though Contra is a close second for me.

Can't tell if this is a joke or real.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:15 pm

TFW the mainstream left is so fucking shit and insular that even Fox News are the good guys in comparison:


Fox News Viewers like Bernie Sanders more than MSNBC viewers do.

https://www.businessinsider.sg/fox-news ... cs-2019-5/
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:25 pm

I'm surprised that Hbomb is winning among the people who've been on this thread so far. I would've definitely thought Contra.
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:26 pm

Cekoviu wrote:I'm surprised that Hbomb is winning among the people who've been on this thread so far. I would've definitely thought Contra.

Hbomb is definitely more political, are we surprised? This is NationStates.
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:27 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:TFW the mainstream left is so fucking shit and insular that even Fox News are the good guys in comparison:


Fox News Viewers like Bernie Sanders more than MSNBC viewers do.

https://www.businessinsider.sg/fox-news ... cs-2019-5/

Unsurprised. Bernie is a working class hero, many Democrats are upper-class zeroes.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:28 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:TFW the mainstream left is so fucking shit and insular that even Fox News are the good guys in comparison:


Fox News Viewers like Bernie Sanders more than MSNBC viewers do.

https://www.businessinsider.sg/fox-news ... cs-2019-5/


It's almost like *gasp!* Liberals aren't leftists.
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