Why are Antisemites so weird?

[Kowani]

Your initial post was a “But Both Sides!” bullshit.

Tell me how my initial bullshit invalidates my current stack of bovine excrements. Both sides have reasonable people. The big surprise here isn't that anti-antisemites are reasonable; most of them are. Among antisemitic circles it is true that some theories are completely outlandish, but unfortunately for you, the enemy has some clever people within its ranks too. Attention: Saying this does not mean I endorse their views Signalling this is mandatory lest I be accused of it. I don't like doing it but I hope it'll save the accusations.

Well. Anti-semitism is, by default an unreasonable position, so that’s a failing right there.

[Hurdergaryp]

Like seriously. I disagree with white Nationalists but at least their views, while repugnant and stupid, make sense. "We are Genetically superior." It's incorrect and dumb but I can understand.

Meanwhile. Antisemites might as well be describing fucking magical vampires for all their views on Jewish people has to do with reality. Like it's always some crazy supernatural thing.

Any thoughts as to why this is NSG? Personally I'm pretty darn bamboozled, and my only guess is anti-Semitism being an older prejudice that's partially founded in biblical stuff. Whereas White Supremacy is a more recent hate.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crank_magnetism

That does explain a lot of modern day mass insanity.

[Neko-koku]

Like seriously. I disagree with white Nationalists but at least their views, while repugnant and stupid, make sense. "We are Genetically superior." It's incorrect and dumb but I can understand.

Meanwhile. Antisemites might as well be describing fucking magical vampires for all their views on Jewish people has to do with reality. Like it's always some crazy supernatural thing.

Any thoughts as to why this is NSG? Personally I'm pretty darn bamboozled, and my only guess is anti-Semitism being an older prejudice that's partially founded in biblical stuff. Whereas White Supremacy is a more recent hate.

It's called jealousy. Jews do well hence they must be evil. Sounds right out of Mugabe's mouth.

[Kowani]

That whatever your position is, somebody on NS already had a worse idea, so tell us what you think.

Oh yeah clearly, look how radicalized I am with my take on the issue:

Have you considered speaking with one?

And not a moment too soon

I agree with that. I think Nouveau Quebecois might be an antisemite, and I want to hear why. If I'm wrong, I apologize in advance.

cheers lad

I’m not saying you’re radicalized. I’m saying that regardless of what your actual position may be, we’ve heard worse.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crank_magnetism

That does explain a lot of modern day mass insanity.

It’s quite sad.

[Neko-koku]

I think they do it on reflex; the right-wing anti-semites doing it because Hitler did and the left-wing anti-semites doing it because of their equally arbitrary position* on the Israel-Palestine conflict.

*Palestine was never socialist and I doubt that they're pro-LGBT.

There is only one form of antisemitism, namely econ leftist antisemitism. If you look up Nazi propaganda against Jews, you can easily find Mugabe there.

[Crysuko]

I think they do it on reflex; the right-wing anti-semites doing it because Hitler did and the left-wing anti-semites doing it because of their equally arbitrary position* on the Israel-Palestine conflict.

*Palestine was never socialist and I doubt that they're pro-LGBT.

There is only one form of antisemitism, namely econ leftist antisemitism.

This has to be irony

[Neko-koku]

There is only one form of antisemitism, namely econ leftist antisemitism.

This has to be irony

Nope, it isn't. Nazi antisemitism is still econ leftist antisemitism.

Read some actual Nazi antisemitic propaganda and it is like the following:

Poor and uneducated German countrymen good,
Jewish merchants wearing suits and carrying bags bad!

[Nouveau Quebecois]

This has to be irony

Nope, it isn't. Nazi antisemitism is still econ leftist antisemitism.

What?

[Neko-koku]

Nope, it isn't. Nazi antisemitism is still econ leftist antisemitism.

What?

Why not look up some real Nazi propaganda? I'm right. Der Sturmer is to a large extant about "poor and uneducated German laborers good, rich and educated Jewish merchants bad!"

[Crysuko]

This has to be irony

Nope, it isn't. Nazi antisemitism is still econ leftist antisemitism.

..............?

[Kowani]

Nope, it isn't. Nazi antisemitism is still econ leftist antisemitism.

What?

Don’t listen to him. He’s got opinions that…don’t fall into the realm of reality.

[Neko-koku]

What?

Don’t listen to him. He’s got opinions that…don’t fall into the realm of reality.

If you read Nazi propaganda you will find that I'm right. There is a lot of them here:

https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/

[Nakena]

What?

Don’t listen to him. He’s got opinions that…don’t fall into the realm of reality.

Nah. They're a good kitty and quite often on spot. Even if from an unusual perspective.

Which is refreshing and good.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Don’t listen to him. He’s got opinions that…don’t fall into the realm of reality.

If you read Nazi propaganda you will find that I'm right.

Start with Mein Kampf then move on to the propaganda posters, a'ight?

[Arcanda]

Tell me how my initial bullshit invalidates my current stack of bovine excrements. Both sides have reasonable people. The big surprise here isn't that anti-antisemites are reasonable; most of them are. Among antisemitic circles it is true that some theories are completely outlandish, but unfortunately for you, the enemy has some clever people within its ranks too. Attention: Saying this does not mean I endorse their views Signalling this is mandatory lest I be accused of it. I don't like doing it but I hope it'll save the accusations.

Well. Anti-semitism is, by default an unreasonable position, so that’s a failing right there.

Heh, got nothing left to say there, then.

[Neko-koku]

Don’t listen to him. He’s got opinions that…don’t fall into the realm of reality.

Nah. They're a good kitty and quite often on spot. Even if from an unusual perspective.

Which is refreshing and good.

I tend to think along ideological lines, not tribal lines.

[Aureumterra]

They’re anti-Semites lol, what do you expect?

[-Ocelot-]

It's not meant to be true. It's meant to take all circumstances they can, and weave a narrative that points blame at their enemies. The point is to gather people willing to repeat it (I.E, those who fancy a scrap or just dislike Jews vaguely or whatever) into one place, one mass, and then have them go mental.

This is why I compare them to feminists and how there is the same backward rationalizations that always end up with placing men in their targets.

Everything is about the evil feminists wanting to destroy mankind, according to Ostro.

What do feminists even have to do with this, what. the. hell. man?

[Electic]

If the debate between both is genuine, then you might have the opportunity to stop the nonsense at its source. Confrontation through conversation is the best method of de-radicalizing people and disproving bad ideas.

So why is everyone here so allergic to it?

Because Antisemitism's reputation is distasteful. It doesn't have a good historical track record, and from my own independent study, does not seem to be a system that advocates my values, or commonly held values in the NSG forums. I am still open to hearing civil debate on it -- mainly because I'd like the opportunity to showcase the moral hollowness of Antisemitism to its proponents.

[Neko-koku]

If you read Nazi propaganda you will find that I'm right.

Start with Mein Kampf then move on to the propaganda posters, a'ight?

Yes.

Nazism is essentially very similar to Black Nationalism, Zimbabwean Nationalism and Haitian Nationalism. It is indeed the opposite of Zionism.

To them "the eternal Jew" is at the top of the world and hence must be evil.....when in reality it is caused by high Ashkenazi IQ due to extreme selection pressure.

Basically antisemites view Jews just like how black white-haters view whites and how Southeast Asian Chinese-haters view ethnic Chinese. They completely can not understand their enemies and whenever their dreams come true the economy and other conditions decline.

[Hurdergaryp]

It's not meant to be true. It's meant to take all circumstances they can, and weave a narrative that points blame at their enemies. The point is to gather people willing to repeat it (I.E, those who fancy a scrap or just dislike Jews vaguely or whatever) into one place, one mass, and then have them go mental.

This is why I compare them to feminists and how there is the same backward rationalizations that always end up with placing men in their targets.

Everything is about the evil feminists wanting to destroy mankind, according to Ostro.

What do feminists even have to do with this, what. the. hell. man?

Proselytizing; more need to be convinced to join the flock. It does not matter if it is relevant to the subject matter of the thread, because talk of one group of conspiracy theories will inevitably attract followers of other conspiracy theories.

[Nakena]

It's not meant to be true. It's meant to take all circumstances they can, and weave a narrative that points blame at their enemies. The point is to gather people willing to repeat it (I.E, those who fancy a scrap or just dislike Jews vaguely or whatever) into one place, one mass, and then have them go mental.

This is why I compare them to feminists and how there is the same backward rationalizations that always end up with placing men in their targets.

Everything is about the evil feminists wanting to destroy mankind, according to Ostro.

What do feminists even have to do with this, what. the. hell. man?

Daily reminder: TERF have their own conspiracy theory that queers have been genetically engineered and created by a evil patriarchy to subvert and destroy feminist safe-spaces from within...

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Trans-exc ... ary_gender

[SD_Film Artists]

What?

Why not look up some real Nazi propaganda? I'm right. Der Sturmer is to a large extant about "poor and uneducated German laborers good, rich and educated Jewish merchants bad!"

Regardless of the rhetoric, the two types of anti-Semitism come from different places with different ideologies. Some left-wing anti-semites even try to link Israel and Hitler together. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nd-zionism

[Hurdergaryp]

Everything is about the evil feminists wanting to destroy mankind, according to Ostro.

What do feminists even have to do with this, what. the. hell. man?

Daily reminder: TERF have their own conspiracy theory that queers have been genetically engineered and created by a evil patriarchy to subvert and destroy feminist safe-spaces from within...

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Trans-exc ... ary_gender

And this is why the word 'flabbergasted' exists.

[Neko-koku]

https://research.calvin.edu/german-prop ... g34-23.htm

This is a typical Julius Streicher nonsense article. Does this look very similar to pro-black, SJW nonsense?