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Postby Nakena » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:24 am

Neko-koku wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Start with Mein Kampf then move on to the propaganda posters, a'ight?


Yes.

Nazism is essentially very similar to Black Nationalism, Zimbabwean Nationalism and Haitian Nationalism. It is indeed the opposite of Zionism.

To them "the eternal Jew" is at the top of the world and hence must be evil.....when in reality it is caused by high Ashkenazi IQ due to extreme selection pressure.

Basically antisemites view Jews just like how black white-haters view whites and how Southeast Asian Chinese-haters view ethnic Chinese. They completely can not understand their enemies and whenever their dreams come true the economy and other conditions decline.


The best thing is I am better at everything the neo-nazis say the eternal sneaky jew is supposedly good at. :^)

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Postby Page » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:25 am

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Nouveau Quebecois wrote:What?

Why not look up some real Nazi propaganda? I'm right. Der Sturmer is to a large extant about "poor and uneducated German laborers good, rich and educated Jewish merchants bad!"


Nazis aren't leftists and fascist economics are not left-wing. Fascists are anti-capitalist to a certain degree, but they are not for the worker, as made clear by the fact that fascists brutally suppress trade unions.
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Postby Neko-koku » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:25 am

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Neko-koku wrote:Why not look up some real Nazi propaganda? I'm right. Der Sturmer is to a large extant about "poor and uneducated German laborers good, rich and educated Jewish merchants bad!"


Regardless of the rhetoric, the two types of anti-Semitism come from different places with different ideologies. Some left-wing anti-semites even try to link Israel and Hitler together. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nd-zionism

OK. That's even more hilarious. Maybe they simply merge Jews into whites and what they have is simply Haitian-style hatred for whites....which is indeed very similar to antisemitism.
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Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:25 am

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Neko-koku wrote:Why not look up some real Nazi propaganda? I'm right. Der Sturmer is to a large extant about "poor and uneducated German laborers good, rich and educated Jewish merchants bad!"


Nazis aren't leftists and fascist economics are not left-wing. Fascists are anti-capitalist to a certain degree, but they are not for the worker, as made clear by the fact that fascists brutally suppress trade unions.

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Postby Nakena » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:26 am

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Nakena wrote:Daily reminder: TERF have their own conspiracy theory that queers have been genetically engineered and created by a evil patriarchy to subvert and destroy feminist safe-spaces from within...

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And this is why the word 'flabbergasted' exists.


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Postby Neko-koku » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:27 am

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Neko-koku wrote:Why not look up some real Nazi propaganda? I'm right. Der Sturmer is to a large extant about "poor and uneducated German laborers good, rich and educated Jewish merchants bad!"


Nazis aren't leftists and fascist economics are not left-wing. Fascists are anti-capitalist to a certain degree, but they are not for the worker, as made clear by the fact that fascists brutally suppress trade unions.


Cuz both good entrepreneurs and leftie activists tend to be Jewish....for the same reason why both Malaysian tycoons and Malaysian communist leaders tend to be ethnic Chinese.

Because..because...Nazis banned IQ tests since they already knew the uncomfortable truth, namely Ashkenazis are indeed objectively more competent than ethnic Germans despite the fact that ethnic Germans already do extremely well in the world..
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:28 am

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Neko-koku wrote:Why not look up some real Nazi propaganda? I'm right. Der Sturmer is to a large extant about "poor and uneducated German laborers good, rich and educated Jewish merchants bad!"


Nazis aren't leftists and fascist economics are not left-wing. Fascists are anti-capitalist to a certain degree, but they are not for the worker, as made clear by the fact that fascists brutally suppress trade unions.

Wow it's almost as if National Socialism isn't left nor right-wing but in-fact the radical authoritarian centre.
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Postby Page » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:30 am

Neko-koku wrote:https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/dvg34-23.htm

This is a typical Julius Streicher nonsense article. Does this look very similar to pro-black, SJW nonsense?


No.

False equivalence is very common on this forum, but this particular false equivalence takes the cake.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:30 am

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Nazis aren't leftists and fascist economics are not left-wing. Fascists are anti-capitalist to a certain degree, but they are not for the worker, as made clear by the fact that fascists brutally suppress trade unions.


Cuz both good entrepreneurs and leftie activists tend to be Jewish....for the same reason why both Malaysian tycoons and Malaysian communist leaders tend to be ethnic Chinese.

Because..because...Nazis banned IQ tests since they already knew the uncomfortable truth, namely Ashkenazis are indeed objectively more competent than ethnic Germans despite the fact that ethnic Germans already do extremely well in the world..

Fact check please.
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Postby Neko-koku » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:31 am

Nazism is basically SJWism. Since Ashkenazis have high IQ on average they naturally dominate a lot of industries, even communist leadership. Then there are a group of weird people called Nazis who believe that such Jewish overrepresentation is inherently unnatural, evil and must be results of a Jewish conspiracy when it is among the most natural things in the world..
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Postby Neko-koku » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:33 am

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Neko-koku wrote:https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/dvg34-23.htm

This is a typical Julius Streicher nonsense article. Does this look very similar to pro-black, SJW nonsense?


No.

False equivalence is very common on this forum, but this particular false equivalence takes the cake.


It's not false equivalence. Instead you are just uncomfortable with rationally understanding ideologies. To you Nazism is far-rightist and SJWism is far-leftist hence they must be ideologically opposed.

Yeah, as we all know Chetniks were far-left because Ustase was far-right! Wait..
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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:34 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:Like seriously. I disagree with white Nationalists but at least their views, while repugnant and stupid, make sense. "We are Genetically superior." It's incorrect and dumb but I can understand.

Meanwhile. Antisemites might as well be describing fucking magical vampires for all their views on Jewish people has to do with reality. Like it's always some crazy supernatural thing.

Any thoughts as to why this is NSG? Personally I'm pretty darn bamboozled, and my only guess is anti-Semitism being an older prejudice that's partially founded in biblical stuff. Whereas White Supremacy is a more recent hate.

My question for you is if you see how absurd anti-Semitism is, why do you think white nationalism is not equally or even more absurd? After all, white nationalists almost always include anti-Semitism among their backwards beliefs.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:35 am

Neko-koku wrote:Nazism is basically SJWism. Since Ashkenazis have high IQ on average they naturally dominate a lot of industries, even communist leadership. Then there are a group of weird people called Nazis who believe that such Jewish overrepresentation is inherently unnatural, evil and must be results of a Jewish conspiracy when it is among the most natural things in the world..


Would you say that a supposed jewish overrepresentation in some sectors in the US is the natural result of a meritocratic and open system?
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Postby Neko-koku » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:37 am

Nakena wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:Nazism is basically SJWism. Since Ashkenazis have high IQ on average they naturally dominate a lot of industries, even communist leadership. Then there are a group of weird people called Nazis who believe that such Jewish overrepresentation is inherently unnatural, evil and must be results of a Jewish conspiracy when it is among the most natural things in the world..


Would you say that a supposed jewish overrepresentation in some sectors in the US is the natural result of a meritocratic and open system?


Yes. In any meritocratic and open system (Ashkenazi) Jewish overrepresentation is completely normal, natural and good.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:38 am

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Neko-koku wrote:
Cuz both good entrepreneurs and leftie activists tend to be Jewish....for the same reason why both Malaysian tycoons and Malaysian communist leaders tend to be ethnic Chinese.

Because..because...Nazis banned IQ tests since they already knew the uncomfortable truth, namely Ashkenazis are indeed objectively more competent than ethnic Germans despite the fact that ethnic Germans already do extremely well in the world..

Fact check please.

Alright suppose not.
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Postby Electic » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:38 am

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Neko-koku wrote:
Cuz both good entrepreneurs and leftie activists tend to be Jewish....for the same reason why both Malaysian tycoons and Malaysian communist leaders tend to be ethnic Chinese.

Because..because...Nazis banned IQ tests since they already knew the uncomfortable truth, namely Ashkenazis are indeed objectively more competent than ethnic Germans despite the fact that ethnic Germans already do extremely well in the world..

Fact check please.


Adolf Hitler banned IQ testing for being "Jewish" as did Joseph Stalin for being "bourgeois". (The structure & measurement of intelligence, Hans Jürgen Eysenck and David W. Fulker, Transaction Publishers, 1979, page 16.)
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:39 am

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Ostroeuropa wrote:It's not meant to be true. It's meant to take all circumstances they can, and weave a narrative that points blame at their enemies. The point is to gather people willing to repeat it (I.E, those who fancy a scrap or just dislike Jews vaguely or whatever) into one place, one mass, and then have them go mental.

This is why I compare them to feminists and how there is the same backward rationalizations that always end up with placing men in their targets.


Everything is about the evil feminists wanting to destroy mankind, according to Ostro.

What do feminists even have to do with this, what. the. hell. man?


99% of that post is dealing with anti-semites and was about anti-semites and how they operate. Noting the similarity with their praxis and feminist praxis triggered a bunch of you apparently. I also find it funny that you quoted the section of the post that answers your own question.

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Proselytizing is partially right, but what I peddle isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a criticism. :)
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Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Fact check please.


Adolf Hitler banned IQ testing for being "Jewish" as did Joseph Stalin for being "bourgeois". (The structure & measurement of intelligence, Hans Jürgen Eysenck and David W. Fulker, Transaction Publishers, 1979, page 16.)

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The author, Eysenck, is obviously a bias one. Sounds like class A bullshit.
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Postby Neko-koku » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:40 am

Whites do better than blacks and mestizos but magically not NE Asians.

Ashkenazi Jews do better than white gentiles but magically non-Ashkenazi Jews don't.

Ethnic Chinese do better than half-NE Asian ethnic Vietnamese who do better than full Southeast Asians.

These three are facts certain people can't get over. People who can't get over 1 tend to be considered enemies of people who can't get over 2. However 1 and 2 can be explained very easily by HBD..
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Postby Nakena » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:41 am

Neko-koku wrote:
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Would you say that a supposed jewish overrepresentation in some sectors in the US is the natural result of a meritocratic and open system?


Yes. In any meritocratic and open system (Ashkenazi) Jewish overrepresentation is completely normal, natural and good.


This reminds me at some argument of an neo-nazi dude who said literally that "Democracy, Liberalism and Capitalism are the perfect trifecta through which the jews can invade your country".
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:42 am

Nakena wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:Nazism is basically SJWism. Since Ashkenazis have high IQ on average they naturally dominate a lot of industries, even communist leadership. Then there are a group of weird people called Nazis who believe that such Jewish overrepresentation is inherently unnatural, evil and must be results of a Jewish conspiracy when it is among the most natural things in the world..


Would you say that a supposed jewish overrepresentation in some sectors in the US is the natural result of a meritocratic and open system?


I wouldn't necessarily say this. I think there's a case to be made that some degree of privilege and discrimination against non-jews by jews in positions of authority could be involved, despite Jews also facing prejudice.

A simple study to show it would be like those studies that demonstrate people hire X demographic less often despite the same qualifications.

Go around Jewish owned businesses with a similar study and Jewish v Non-Jewish applicants.
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Postby Electic » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:42 am

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Electic wrote:
Adolf Hitler banned IQ testing for being "Jewish" as did Joseph Stalin for being "bourgeois". (The structure & measurement of intelligence, Hans Jürgen Eysenck and David W. Fulker, Transaction Publishers, 1979, page 16.)

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The author, Eysenck, is obviously a bias one. Sounds like class A bullshit.

Proof of bias?
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Postby Neko-koku » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:43 am

Nakena wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:
Yes. In any meritocratic and open system (Ashkenazi) Jewish overrepresentation is completely normal, natural and good.


This reminds me at some argument of an neo-nazi dude who said literally that "Democracy, Liberalism and Capitalism are the perfect trifecta through which the jews can invade your country".


Lmao. The Nazi is actually right. However it is not the Jews' fault. The problem is of course the majority population not being as competent as Ashkenazis.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:43 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
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Would you say that a supposed jewish overrepresentation in some sectors in the US is the natural result of a meritocratic and open system?


I wouldn't necessarily say this. I think there's a case to be made that some degree of privilege and discrimination against non-jews by jews in positions of authority could be involved, despite Jews also facing prejudice.


I am curious about Neko-koku's views.
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Postby Neko-koku » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:43 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Would you say that a supposed jewish overrepresentation in some sectors in the US is the natural result of a meritocratic and open system?


I wouldn't necessarily say this. I think there's a case to be made that some degree of privilege and discrimination against non-jews by jews in positions of authority could be involved, despite Jews also facing prejudice.


Why does the magic Jewish privilege disappear for Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews?

Any Jewish conspiracy theory I have heard of assumes that all Jews are in a cabal due to the Talmud or or something regardless of whether they are Ashkenazi.
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