Why are Antisemites so weird?

[Duvniask]

Well, the atonement for sin require a blood sacrifice, and Jesus was the ultimate, eternal sacrifice.

And I didn't sin, Yet, but now I do, and need a Savior. Since man has a natural sin nature, he needs atonement.

Exactly.
I don't get why that's so hard to grasp.

It raises many questions. There's the issue with why, specifically, a (blood) sacrifice is required. What connection does forgiveness have to someone being killed? Pondering it, there's actually something quite grotesque about the idea that my forgiveness depends on the bloody and tortured sacrifice of another. And man's sinful nature would appear to be God's mistake, if God is the one that endowed us with free will, as Christians themselves like to point out.

[Vendellamoore]

Exactly.
I don't get why that's so hard to grasp.

It raises many questions. There's the issue with why, specifically, a (blood) sacrifice is required. What connection does forgiveness have to someone being killed? Pondering it, there's actually something quite grotesque about the idea that my forgiveness depends on the bloody and tortured sacrifice of another. And man's sinful nature would appear to be God's mistake, if God is the one that endowed us with free will, as Christians themselves like to point out.

It was usually a lamb, as the atonement for sin can only be by a sinless creature. Lambs were considered to be clean and pure. Jesus lived a Sinless life, and therefore, his blood covered our sins. And as for free will, I don't believe it. We do have free will to a certain extent, but not to change our eternal destiny.

[Electic]

It raises many questions. There's the issue with why, specifically, a (blood) sacrifice is required. What connection does forgiveness have to someone being killed? Pondering it, there's actually something quite grotesque about the idea that my forgiveness depends on the bloody and tortured sacrifice of another. And man's sinful nature would appear to be God's mistake, if God is the one that endowed us with free will, as Christians themselves like to point out.

It was usually a lamb, as the atonement for sin can only be by a sinless creature. Lambs were considered to be clean and pure. Jesus lived a Sinless life, and therefore, his blood covered our sins. And as for free will, I don't believe it. We do have free will to a certain extent, but not to change our eternal destiny.

Then thats not really free will, but predeterminism.

[New haven america]

Probably because the irrational hated of something requires an irrational thought process to make sense.

[Distance Running]

Like seriously. I disagree with white Nationalists but at least their views, while repugnant and stupid, make sense. "We are Genetically superior." It's incorrect and dumb but I can understand.

Meanwhile. Antisemites might as well be describing fucking magical vampires for all their views on Jewish people has to do with reality. Like it's always some crazy supernatural thing.

Any thoughts as to why this is NSG? Personally I'm pretty darn bamboozled, and my only guess is anti-Semitism being an older prejudice that's partially founded in biblical stuff. Whereas White Supremacy is a more recent hate.

Anti-Semites want to live in the Stone Age, bereft of any of the technology the Jews have developed to keep our lives from sucking. Not founded in Biblical stuff.

[Vendellamoore]

It was usually a lamb, as the atonement for sin can only be by a sinless creature. Lambs were considered to be clean and pure. Jesus lived a Sinless life, and therefore, his blood covered our sins. And as for free will, I don't believe it. We do have free will to a certain extent, but not to change our eternal destiny.

Then thats not really free will, but predeterminism.

Well yes but I do believe people still can make choices, but not regarding their eternal fate. So I guess I may believe in Predeterminism, but I don't think absolutely everything was decided, such as what shirt I wear tomorrow, what drink I have today, etc.


Now let's got back on topic, about Antisemitism

[Saiwania]

The antisemites bring up a lot of good points. But if you're going to adopt some of it, you should distinguish between the Zionists and those of the state of Israel which are good for the most part, and the Jews that're primarily Leftists or cultural Marxists that're based within the US or Europe whom are mostly bad people from the right's perspective.

One we want to still be around, while the other we should want to undermine or limit their influence.

[Electic]

Then thats not really free will, but predeterminism.

Well yes but I do believe people still can make choices, but not regarding their eternal fate. So I guess I may believed in Predeterminism, but I don't think absolutely everything was decided, such as what shirt I wear tomorrow, what drink I have today, etc.

I see. While this is a fascinating subject, I'm going avoid trailing and going further off topic

[Hurdergaryp]

The antisemites bring up a lot of good points. But if you're going to adopt some of it, you should distinguish between the Zionists and those of the state of Israel which are good for the most part, and the Jews that're primarily Leftists or cultural Marxists that're based within the US or Europe whom are mostly bad people from the right's perspective.

One we want to still be around, while the other we should want to undermine or limit their influence.

And here we have the inevitable neonazi, even though he probably brands himself differently. Einen schlechten Witz, sogesagt.

[Rojava Free State]

Same reason the opposite side of the spectrum, the die hard zionists, are so weird. You convince a man that he somehow is genetically superior to another group of people and hell follows.

I personally have no issue with people being jewish. I just hope they'll understand that just like they are people, so am I and those who look like me

[Rojava Free State]

Like seriously. I disagree with white Nationalists but at least their views, while repugnant and stupid, make sense. "We are Genetically superior." It's incorrect and dumb but I can understand.

Meanwhile. Antisemites might as well be describing fucking magical vampires for all their views on Jewish people has to do with reality. Like it's always some crazy supernatural thing.

Any thoughts as to why this is NSG? Personally I'm pretty darn bamboozled, and my only guess is anti-Semitism being an older prejudice that's partially founded in biblical stuff. Whereas White Supremacy is a more recent hate.

Anti-Semites want to live in the Stone Age, bereft of any of the technology the Jews have developed to keep our lives from sucking. Not founded in Biblical stuff.

Most technology wasn't made by jews. some was, and good for them, but don't get it twisted

[Takso]

Antisemitism is rooted in irrational and conspiratorial thinking, along with an inferiority complex that uses ethnic background as a source of pride rather than personal merit.

[Cappuccina]

The antisemites bring up a lot of good points. But if you're going to adopt some of it, you should distinguish between the Zionists and those of the state of Israel which are good for the most part, and the Jews that're primarily Leftists or cultural Marxists that're based within the US or Europe whom are mostly bad people from the right's perspective.

One we want to still be around, while the other we should want to undermine or limit their influence.

And here we have the inevitable neonazi, even though he probably brands himself differently. Einen schlechten Witz, sogesagt.

Saiwania has a good point though, the West is unusually partial to Jews, especially the left... though the leftists ironically support Palestine over Israel.

[Aureumterra]

The antisemites bring up a lot of good points.

No they don’t, all of their points are shit

[Rojava Free State]

Jews out-preform whites in America, so that could always be the case.

Hard working is another one.

My mom likes to use the “Jews made the desert bloom” in regards to the prosperity of the land in Israel. I often think this rubs the antisemite crowd the wrong way. Among a host of other stupid reasons.

That's actually a myth. The area around the Mediterranean coast where Israel is today was always fertile.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Hard working is another one.

My mom likes to use the “Jews made the desert bloom” in regards to the prosperity of the land in Israel. I often think this rubs the antisemite crowd the wrong way. Among a host of other stupid reasons.

That's actually a myth. The area around the Mediterranean coast where Israel is today was always fertile.

Not to mention the Jezreel valley. It's not like Israel was ever entirely desert, especially the parts where people lived. Hell, Jericho has been inhabited for 12000 years.

[Aureumterra]

Hard working is another one.

My mom likes to use the “Jews made the desert bloom” in regards to the prosperity of the land in Israel. I often think this rubs the antisemite crowd the wrong way. Among a host of other stupid reasons.

That's actually a myth. The area around the Mediterranean coast where Israel is today was always fertile.

It was part of the fertile crescent, this is why Abraham could actually settle Canaan, back then, living in the desert automatically hindered civilization to a primitive nomadic lifestyle

[New haven america]

That's actually a myth. The area around the Mediterranean coast where Israel is today was always fertile.

Not to mention the Jezreel valley. It's not like Israel was ever entirely desert, especially the parts where people lived. Hell, Jericho has been inhabited for 12000 years.

A lot of the Middle East is/was more than just desert, some people forget that fact.

[Neko-koku]

Anti-Semites want to live in the Stone Age, bereft of any of the technology the Jews have developed to keep our lives from sucking. Not founded in Biblical stuff.

Most technology wasn't made by jews. some was, and good for them, but don't get it twisted

Hmm..shall we start with..uh..compression methods?

[Neko-koku]

Not to mention the Jezreel valley. It's not like Israel was ever entirely desert, especially the parts where people lived. Hell, Jericho has been inhabited for 12000 years.

A lot of the Middle East is/was more than just desert, some people forget that fact.

Most forget about that.

[Saiwania]

And here we have the inevitable neonazi, even though he probably brands himself differently.

What more do people want? I've made it clear enough that I like the state of Israel and have a use for them as the ideal homeland for the world's Jewish population and a good trading partner/decent nation overall. What I don't have a use for or don't like, are the Jews in the US and elsewhere whom are too Leftist or are anti-Zionist.

[Neko-koku]

Same reason the opposite side of the spectrum, the die hard zionists, are so weird. You convince a man that he somehow is genetically superior to another group of people and hell follows.

I personally have no issue with people being jewish. I just hope they'll understand that just like they are people, so am I and those who look like me

I can easily justify radical Zionism. Do you want to hear that? In fact since we already know each other well I think you probably already know what I'm about to say.

[Electic]

And here we have the inevitable neonazi, even though he probably brands himself differently.

What more do people want? I've made it clear enough that I like the state of Israel and have a use for them as the ideal homeland for the world's Jewish population and a good trading partner/decent nation overall. What I don't have a use for or don't like, are the Jews in the US and elsewhere whom are too Leftist or are anti-Zionist.

So its a matter of "stay in your own lane" for you?

[Neko-koku]

So its a matter of "stay in your own lane" for you?

Separate but equal....

IS NOT DAMN EQUAL!


Also the rent is too damn high.

In the sense that Israel will be naturally richer than other nations? Lol.

[Rojava Free State]

Same reason the opposite side of the spectrum, the die hard zionists, are so weird. You convince a man that he somehow is genetically superior to another group of people and hell follows.

I personally have no issue with people being jewish. I just hope they'll understand that just like they are people, so am I and those who look like me

I can easily justify radical Zionism. Do you want to hear that?

The holocaust doesn't give a Jewish person the right to run people out of their homes, massacre civilians and drag American into numerous wars worldwide. Also Judaism is a religion and half these Jews in Israel are clearly europeans with next to no connection to the land.

Notice how all the Israel supporters are fine with the country being an "officially jewish" state, but would lose their shit if America was an officially white country. They want nothing more than to subjugate non jews both in Israel and abroad, and I can't stand for their racist ideology