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Is Israel's ban of Omar and Tlaib justified or unjust?

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Unjust
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:59 am

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>Quotes a post with a link to where you said it

>claims you never said it

I did not imply that. I said it’s one circle inside another. I did not specify which was in which, sure, but that’s besides the point.


Ah, the convenient "I didn't use those specific words" cop-out.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:00 am

Reminder that for all the shit Omar and Tlaib get they, unlike the Republican Party, don't support using the Jewish people as human sacrifices for the Second Coming :)
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:00 am

Vassenor wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:I did not imply that. I said it’s one circle inside another. I did not specify which was in which, sure, but that’s besides the point.


Ah, the convenient "I didn't use those specific words" cop-out.

The convenient “I’m going to put words into your mouth” cop-out.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:02 am

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Using the GDI as a reference, Indonesia currently scores a 6.39. Comparable to Romania or Croatia.

Ah yes, because when I think “democracy”, I think “Romania”. As in, the place that was ruled by commies until 30 years ago and is still recovering.

To be fair Soeharto's rule just ended 21 years ago.
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:03 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Reminder that for all the shit Omar and Tlaib get they, unlike the Republican Party, don't support using the Jewish people as human sacrifices for the Second Coming :)

This is some Alex Jones-level take here. You wanna back that up?
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Postby Cappuccina » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:07 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Reminder that for all the shit Omar and Tlaib get they, unlike the Republican Party, don't support using the Jewish people as human sacrifices for the Second Coming :)

What?!?
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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:10 am

Cappuccina wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Reminder that for all the shit Omar and Tlaib get they, unlike the Republican Party, don't support using the Jewish people as human sacrifices for the Second Coming :)

What?!?

That's a topic related to some factions of Christianity. You might not get the context. Basically Christians generally believe that Jesus (who you call Issa) died on the cross (I know that according to Islam he didn't) and will come to Planet Earth again (where Christianity and Islam agree).

Some Christian factions believe that Israel-induced WWIII can bring about the Christian End Times, hence they support aggressive Israeli actions not because they actually give a shit about Jews but because they want an apocalyptic war.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:13 am

Neko-koku wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:What?!?

That's a topic related to some factions of Christianity. You might not get the context. Basically Christians generally believe that Jesus (who you call Issa) died on the cross (I know that according to Islam he didn't) and will come to Planet Earth again (where Christianity and Islam agree).


So he's on a spaceship in cryosleep right now?
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Postby North German Realm » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:13 am

Nakena wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:That's a topic related to some factions of Christianity. You might not get the context. Basically Christians generally believe that Jesus (who you call Issa) died on the cross (I know that according to Islam he didn't) and will come to Planet Earth again (where Christianity and Islam agree).


So he's on a spaceship in cryosleep right now?
You're thinking too conventionally. He's in his own pocket dimension.
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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:14 am

Nakena wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:That's a topic related to some factions of Christianity. You might not get the context. Basically Christians generally believe that Jesus (who you call Issa) died on the cross (I know that according to Islam he didn't) and will come to Planet Earth again (where Christianity and Islam agree).


So he's on a spaceship in cryosleep right now?

I'm merely stating what some Christians believe to a Muslim unfamiliar with such beliefs in order to help her understand a post. I'm secular.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:14 am

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Reminder that for all the shit Omar and Tlaib get they, unlike the Republican Party, don't support using the Jewish people as human sacrifices for the Second Coming :)

This is some Alex Jones-level take here. You wanna back that up?

The American right's support for Israel is based entirely upon their twisted interpretation of Christianity.

The Third Temple is built, all the Jews return to Israel, 144,000 Jews convert and the rest die.
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:15 am

North German Realm wrote:
Nakena wrote:
So he's on a spaceship in cryosleep right now?
You're thinking too conventionally. He's in his own pocket dimension.

I think he got cold feet and left the Christians at the altar
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Postby Nakena » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:15 am

North German Realm wrote:
Nakena wrote:
So he's on a spaceship in cryosleep right now?
You're thinking too conventionally. He's in his own pocket dimension.


You kek't me. Fair and square.

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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:16 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:This is some Alex Jones-level take here. You wanna back that up?

The American right's support for Israel is based entirely upon their twisted interpretation of Christianity.

The Third Temple is built, all the Jews return to Israel, 144,000 Jews convert and the rest die.


I'm not exactly sure about that.

Speaking of the Third Temple a few Jews are actually trying to build it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Temple_Institute
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:18 am

Neko-koku wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:The American right's support for Israel is based entirely upon their twisted interpretation of Christianity.

The Third Temple is built, all the Jews return to Israel, 144,000 Jews convert and the rest die.


I'm not exactly sure about that.


He's 110% right. The main reason so many religious conservatives in the US bend over and do anything for Israel is because they view it as an important part of ensuring The Second Coming and Rapture.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:18 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:
I'm not exactly sure about that.


He's 110% right. The main reason so many religious conservatives in the US bend over and do anything for Israel is because they view it as an important part of ensuring The Second Coming and Rapture.


So sort of a doomsday death cult. And I thought I am weird. lol
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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:20 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:
I'm not exactly sure about that.


He's 110% right. The main reason so many religious conservatives in the US bend over and do anything for Israel is because they view it as an important part of ensuring The Second Coming and Rapture.

Lmeow. That's an ISIS-level belief in terms of potential danger...because Israel and the Muslim world both have nukes.
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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:22 am

Nakena wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
He's 110% right. The main reason so many religious conservatives in the US bend over and do anything for Israel is because they view it as an important part of ensuring The Second Coming and Rapture.


So sort of a doomsday death cult. And I thought I am weird. lol


It's just thankfully ineffective in actually causing death.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:24 am

Neko-koku wrote:
Nakena wrote:
So sort of a doomsday death cult. And I thought I am weird. lol


It's just thankfully ineffective in actually causing death.


Given all those wars and all the deads i'd say its (or was) fairly effective as war as the US are concerned.

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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:25 am

Nakena wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:
It's just thankfully ineffective in actually causing death.


Given all those wars and all the deads i'd say its (or was) fairly effective as war as the US are concerned.

It still isn't. You know how many deaths they want to cause.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:29 am

Neko-koku wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Given all those wars and all the deads i'd say its (or was) fairly effective as war as the US are concerned.

It still isn't. You know how many deaths they want to cause.


Yes they want to sacrifice Mankind to the alien "god" Yahweh. (or whatever it is being called lol)
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Postby Cappuccina » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:29 am

Neko-koku wrote:
Nakena wrote:
So he's on a spaceship in cryosleep right now?

I'm merely stating what some Christians believe to a Muslim unfamiliar with such beliefs in order to help her understand a post. I'm secular.

Assuming I'm unfamiliar with Christian theology, tsk tsk. I nonetheless appreciate your consideration.

I was, however, unaware of the second half of your previous post.... that's insane.
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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:31 am

Nakena wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:It still isn't. You know how many deaths they want to cause.


Yes they want to sacrifice Mankind to the alien "god" Yahweh.


I won't say "sacrifice" because this statement is inaccurate from their POV since they don't actually practice human sacrifice. However yeah they want many deaths.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:32 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:The American right's support for Israel is based entirely upon their twisted interpretation of Christianity.
The Third Temple is built, all the Jews return to Israel, 144,000 Jews convert and the rest die.


I support Israel because simply put, it's the superior country when compared to Palestine and most of its neighbors. Religion doesn't matter to me as much as the secular reasons. Israel has a higher GDP and thus is a better trading partner, has a better military, is more impressive overall. Of course I'm not going to throw my support behind Palestine if its a far poorer version of Jordan, am no fan of Islam, and I feel that much of its people are no good. They celebrated in Gaza and the West Bank on 9/11, this is fact.

I want Israel to continue in part because I actually like the Arabs in that region being pushed off of their land, land that they took from Christians many centuries ago. If a new power makes it so Islam loses territory to some extent, that is a positive in my view. It is normal for religions to win and lose some over the long term.
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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:33 am

Cappuccina wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:I'm merely stating what some Christians believe to a Muslim unfamiliar with such beliefs in order to help her understand a post. I'm secular.

Assuming I'm unfamiliar with Christian theology, tsk tsk. I nonetheless appreciate your consideration.

I was, however, unaware of the second half of your previous post.... that's insane.

See? This is why religious beliefs and lack thereof can significantly change one's view on anything. From their POV since the Christian Heaven exists, represents +Inf gain and that they can certainly go there death is profitable.
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