6 Philly officers wounded in ongoing shootout

[Nova Cyberia]

As someone who lives around Philly (and actually lives in the US at all) I'm pretty sure I'm well within my rights to call our cities shitholes.

You are certainly within your rights... and I'm within my rights to ask you to put some more meat on the bones of your claims than anecdotes.

And I don't care since I'm not really here to discuss the sociological reasons as to why our cities have become drug-infested, crime-infested, poverty-infested dumps.

But if you don't believe me then I invite you to come and take a stroll through North Philly at night.

If you survive then tell me how it was.

[Paddy O Fernature]

They're not mutually exclusive.

Shooting at police is now Responsible Gun Ownership.

Oh look, yet another excellent Gauthier argument based upon something nobody here actually said.

Well done.

[Gormwood]

So your solution to the harm caused by addiction to those drugs is sending the addicts to jail? Because that's what the criminalization of those drugs is doing. It's one of the main contributors to the American mass incarceration problem.

No, I think they need rehabilitation, and we need to crack down on these drugs better. If we allow these dangerous drugs to flow more freely then more people will get addicted, and the problem will spread.

A shame that option was ignored until the cancer that is private prison industry metastatized.

[The New California Republic]

If we allow these dangerous drugs to flow more freely then more people will get addicted, and the problem will spread.

Actually, drugs use in the case of weed has been found to fall amongst teens and adolescents upon legalization, so there is a case to be made that legalization of other narcotics would lessen rather than increase their use.

[Gormwood]

Shooting at police is now Responsible Gun Ownership.

Oh look, yet another excellent Gauthier argument based upon something nobody here actually said.

Well done.

When you defend the right of violent drug dealers to own guns, the suggestion is there.

[Danubia-Slavia]

No, I think they need rehabilitation, and we need to crack down on these drugs better. If we allow these dangerous drugs to flow more freely then more people will get addicted, and the problem will spread.

A shame that option was ignored until the cancer that is private prison industry metastatized.

Then let's make the change now, it's time to stop pouting about the past and fix our broken system

[Scomagia]

Oh look, yet another excellent Gauthier argument based upon something nobody here actually said.

Well done.

When you defend the right of violent drug dealers to own guns, the suggestion is there.

Not really.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Oh look, yet another excellent Gauthier argument based upon something nobody here actually said.

Well done.

When you defend the right of violent drug dealers to own guns, the suggestion is there.

No, not really.

[The South Falls]

A shame that option was ignored until the cancer that is private prison industry metastatized.

Then let's make the change now, it's time to stop pouting about the past and fix our broken system

The lobbies will attack once more.

[Scomagia]

Bad situation is bad. I hope for a swift and bloodless resolution.

[Danubia-Slavia]

If we allow these dangerous drugs to flow more freely then more people will get addicted, and the problem will spread.

Actually, drugs use in the case of weed has been found to fall amongst teens and adolescents upon legalization, so there is a case to be made that legalization of other narcotics would lessen rather than increase their use.

Heroine and meth are much more lethal and addictive than weed. I simply see no reason why we should ever legalize such a thing, and due to the addictablilty, it will only cause more people to get hooked faster

[Nova Cyberia]

When you defend the right of violent drug dealers to own guns, the suggestion is there.

Not really.

When you defend the right of violent drug dealers to own guns, the suggestion is there.

No, not really.

Have either of you actually defended druggies shooting at police or is Gauth just bullshitting again?

[Scomagia]

So your solution to the harm caused by addiction to those drugs is sending the addicts to jail? Because that's what the criminalization of those drugs is doing. It's one of the main contributors to the American mass incarceration problem.

No, I think they need rehabilitation, and we need to crack down on these drugs better. If we allow these dangerous drugs to flow more freely then more people will get addicted, and the problem will spread.

Forced rehab is no less an affront to justice than throwing addicts in jail.

[Uiiop]

You are certainly within your rights... and I'm within my rights to ask you to put some more meat on the bones of your claims than anecdotes.

And I don't care since I'm not really here to discuss the sociological reasons as to why our cities have become drug-infested, crime-infested, poverty-infested dumps.

But if you don't believe me then I invite you to come and take a stroll through North Philly at night.

If you survive then tell me how it was.

Yet you are making sociological claims that can't quite be proven with just one shitty night and anecdotals.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Not really.

No, not really.

Have either of you actually defend druggies shooting at police or is Gauth just bullshitting again?

You really have to ask?

[The Two Jerseys]

Oh look, yet another excellent Gauthier argument based upon something nobody here actually said.

Well done.

When you defend the right of violent drug dealers to own guns, the suggestion is there.

That's precious coming from Mr. "Refusing to Denounce People Threatening ICE Agents Doesn't Mean I Support Them".

[Loben The 2nd]

Bad situation is bad. I hope for a swift and bloodless resolution.

probably will be bloody, cops dont exactly like being shot at.

[Scomagia]

Not really.

No, not really.

Have either of you actually defended druggies shooting at police or is Gauth just bullshitting again?

Just the usual bullshit, yep.

[Nova Cyberia]

And I don't care since I'm not really here to discuss the sociological reasons as to why our cities have become drug-infested, crime-infested, poverty-infested dumps.

But if you don't believe me then I invite you to come and take a stroll through North Philly at night.

If you survive then tell me how it was.

Yet you are making sociological claims that can't quite be proven with just one shitty night and anecdotals.

This is ridiculous, but fine.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/pa/philadelphia/crime

[Gormwood]

When you defend the right of violent drug dealers to own guns, the suggestion is there.

That's precious coming from Mr. "Refusing to Denounce People Threatening ICE Agents Doesn't Mean I Support Them".

And drug dealers are Responsible Gun Owners too.

They're not mutually exclusive.

[The New California Republic]

Actually, drugs use in the case of weed has been found to fall amongst teens and adolescents upon legalization, so there is a case to be made that legalization of other narcotics would lessen rather than increase their use.

Heroine and meth are much more lethal and addictive than weed. I simply see no reason why we should ever legalize such a thing, and due to the addictablilty, it will only cause more people to get hooked faster

There is no evidence to support your assertion that legalization would increase uptake.

[Nova Cyberia]

Have either of you actually defend druggies shooting at police or is Gauth just bullshitting again?

You really have to ask?

Have either of you actually defended druggies shooting at police or is Gauth just bullshitting again?

Just the usual bullshit, yep.

Yep, that's what I figured.

[Scomagia]

That's precious coming from Mr. "Refusing to Denounce People Threatening ICE Agents Doesn't Mean I Support Them".

They're not mutually exclusive.

You're reaching.

[Danubia-Slavia]

No, I think they need rehabilitation, and we need to crack down on these drugs better. If we allow these dangerous drugs to flow more freely then more people will get addicted, and the problem will spread.

Forced rehab is no less an affront to justice than throwing addicts in jail.

Well it's better than throwing them into jail and not dealing with their problem, I'm saying that it should stay criminalized, and that a part of their sentence should be rehabilitation

[The Two Jerseys]

Bad situation is bad. I hope for a swift and bloodless resolution.

probably will be bloody, cops dont exactly like being shot at.

"Burning down the block" is par for the course with the PPD in standoff situations.