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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:52 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Nope, it's just violence. Guns cannot cause violence.


Nah, it's gun violence. Just like people stabbing people is knife violence and people hitting each other with baseball bats is baseball bat violence.

I get you don't like it because you see it as an attack on guns but it's just how the language works.


No, I don't like it because it makes it seem the tool is the cause of the violence. There is no knife violence or baseball bat violence. It's a bullshit phrase. It's just violence, period.

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Postby Liriena » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:52 pm

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Liriena wrote:It's certainly a worrisome turn of events but the hell is the OP trying to make some sweeping claims about American cities based on one drug bust gone wrong?

Because our cities are crime-infested, poverty-infested shitholes. Philly is a good example.

If that's what you want to talk about, you could use statistics, research, etc. as the sources for this thread. You could make a thread about crime and poverty in American cities, instead of trying to use one individual data point to make sweeping claims with no basis.

As it stands, you are just baselessly speculating about very broad matters using as a crutch... again... a drug bust gone wrong.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:53 pm

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Gormwood wrote:You have a problem with drug dealers carrying drugs but not guns. The disconnect...

Drugs are illegal, guns are not.

Totes simples.

And drug dealers are Responsible Gun Owners too.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:53 pm

Gormwood wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Drugs are illegal, guns are not.

Totes simples.

And drug dealers are Responsible Gun Owners too.

They're not mutually exclusive.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:54 pm

Gormwood wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Drugs are illegal, guns are not.

Totes simples.

And drug dealers are Responsible Gun Owners too.


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Postby Steppe Khanate » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:54 pm

It’s North Philly, not really surprised

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:54 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Maybe the druggies shouldn't have had drugs in the first place?

You have a problem with drug dealers carrying drugs but not guns. The disconnect...

I myself don't have any problem with druggies with drugs. However it seems there are laws that criminalize the possession.
You shouldn't assume what I do or do not have a problem with.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:54 pm

Steppe Khanate wrote:It’s North Philly, not really surprised

I know, right?
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:55 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Gormwood wrote:And drug dealers are Responsible Gun Owners too.

They're not mutually exclusive.

Some drug dealers are decent people
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Postby Danubia-Slavia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:56 pm

Liriena wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Because our cities are crime-infested, poverty-infested shitholes. Philly is a good example.

If that's what you want to talk about, you could use statistics, research, etc. as the sources for this thread. You could make a thread about crime and poverty in American cities, instead of trying to use one individual data point to make sweeping claims with no basis.

As it stands, you are just baselessly speculating about very broad matters using as a crutch... again... a drug bust gone wrong.

Well if you wanna go take a trip up to Philly and see it for yourself, go ahead. Everyone should know that drugs such as heroine and meth should never be legalized, and that they have ruined lives and communities.

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Postby Licana » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:57 pm

Steppe Khanate wrote:It’s North Philly, not really surprised

Neither are the locals. Not a stone's throw away from the shooting are some guys shooting some hoops.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:57 pm

Liriena wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Because our cities are crime-infested, poverty-infested shitholes. Philly is a good example.

If that's what you want to talk about, you could use statistics, research, etc. as the sources for this thread. You could make a thread about crime and poverty in American cities, instead of trying to use one individual data point to make sweeping claims with no basis.

As it stands, you are just baselessly speculating about very broad matters using as a crutch... again... a drug bust gone wrong.

As someone who lives around Philly (and actually lives in the US at all) I'm pretty sure I'm well within my rights to call our cities shitholes.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:57 pm

Danubia-Slavia wrote:
Liriena wrote:If that's what you want to talk about, you could use statistics, research, etc. as the sources for this thread. You could make a thread about crime and poverty in American cities, instead of trying to use one individual data point to make sweeping claims with no basis.

As it stands, you are just baselessly speculating about very broad matters using as a crutch... again... a drug bust gone wrong.

Well if you wanna go take a trip up to Philly and see it for yourself, go ahead. Everyone should know that drugs such as heroine and meth should never be legalized, and that they have ruined lives and communities.

If it's legal, there will be less competiton = less profitable = less selling = less drugs over all. We've got to also pioneer sweeping reforms in the rehab side of things. It's what we did with prohibition
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:58 pm

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Steppe Khanate wrote:It’s North Philly, not really surprised

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:58 pm

Licana wrote:
Steppe Khanate wrote:It’s North Philly, not really surprised

Neither are the locals. Not a stone's throw away from the shooting are some guys shooting some hoops.

It's just another day in Nicetown.
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Postby Danubia-Slavia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:58 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Liriena wrote:If that's what you want to talk about, you could use statistics, research, etc. as the sources for this thread. You could make a thread about crime and poverty in American cities, instead of trying to use one individual data point to make sweeping claims with no basis.

As it stands, you are just baselessly speculating about very broad matters using as a crutch... again... a drug bust gone wrong.

As someone who lives around Philly (and actually lives in the US at all) I'm pretty sure I'm well within my rights to call our cities shitholes.

Same here, it's a shame how drugs basically ruined our whole northern industrial base

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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:58 pm

Another shootout. Why am I not surprised? :(

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:59 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Gormwood wrote:And drug dealers are Responsible Gun Owners too.

They're not mutually exclusive.

In this case they clearly are.

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Postby Liriena » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:59 pm

Danubia-Slavia wrote:
Liriena wrote:If that's what you want to talk about, you could use statistics, research, etc. as the sources for this thread. You could make a thread about crime and poverty in American cities, instead of trying to use one individual data point to make sweeping claims with no basis.

As it stands, you are just baselessly speculating about very broad matters using as a crutch... again... a drug bust gone wrong.

Well if you wanna go take a trip up to Philly and see it for yourself, go ahead. Everyone should know that drugs such as heroine and meth should never be legalized, and that they have ruined lives and communities.

So your solution to the harm caused by addiction to those drugs is sending the addicts to jail? Because that's what the criminalization of those drugs is doing. It's one of the main contributors to the American mass incarceration problem.
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Postby Andsed » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:59 pm

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Postby Gormwood » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:00 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Gormwood wrote:And drug dealers are Responsible Gun Owners too.

They're not mutually exclusive.

Shooting at police is now Responsible Gun Ownership.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:00 pm

Liriena wrote:
Danubia-Slavia wrote:We need to expand our police force to tackle the drug issue

Or maybe stop criminalizing drug use?

Yes. Stop the war on drugs, it has already been lost.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:00 pm

Gormwood wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:They're not mutually exclusive.

Shooting at police is now Responsible Gun Ownership.

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Postby Liriena » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:00 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Liriena wrote:If that's what you want to talk about, you could use statistics, research, etc. as the sources for this thread. You could make a thread about crime and poverty in American cities, instead of trying to use one individual data point to make sweeping claims with no basis.

As it stands, you are just baselessly speculating about very broad matters using as a crutch... again... a drug bust gone wrong.

As someone who lives around Philly (and actually lives in the US at all) I'm pretty sure I'm well within my rights to call our cities shitholes.

You are certainly within your rights... and I'm within my rights to ask you to put some more meat on the bones of your claims than anecdotes.
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Postby Danubia-Slavia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:01 pm

Liriena wrote:
Danubia-Slavia wrote:Well if you wanna go take a trip up to Philly and see it for yourself, go ahead. Everyone should know that drugs such as heroine and meth should never be legalized, and that they have ruined lives and communities.

So your solution to the harm caused by addiction to those drugs is sending the addicts to jail? Because that's what the criminalization of those drugs is doing. It's one of the main contributors to the American mass incarceration problem.

No, I think they need rehabilitation, and we need to crack down on these drugs better. If we allow these dangerous drugs to flow more freely then more people will get addicted, and the problem will spread.

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