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Postby Gravlen » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:25 am

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I need more context until I can accurately determine if what he said is bad. Assuming the sources are honest and transparent, I would condemn the whistleblower on those grounds.

But that neither certifies nor debunks the information he provided regarding Google's bias.

When a known liar, the head of an organization infamous for comitting fraud and presenting cases dishonestly, promotes someone with a history of supporting baseless and dangerous conspiracy theories, there's very good reasons to be sceptical about the veracity of both the documents themselves and the conclusions drawn.

That does not mean the information provided should be completely disregarded, but it does mean that we need supporting evidence and/or independent verification - something which has not (yet) been provided. Note, for example, how the OP claims the San Francisco police has "confirmed" the claim that they carried out a ‘wellness check’ at the behest of Google - yet no such actual confirmation by the police has been presented. Why has that been impossible to provide? It should be a very simple thing.

In light of all this, it's prudent to disregard the claims made, at the very least until the documents are verified by more credible sources.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:26 am

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You do realise this is all bunk, right?


I've yet to see a compelling argument and whether or not it's false I standby doing what I said; add Facebook, Twitter and other companies to the mix as well, however.


So basically you've ignored the entire thread for the sake of your own confirmation bias.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:28 am

Vassenor wrote:
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I've yet to see a compelling argument and whether or not it's false I standby doing what I said; add Facebook, Twitter and other companies to the mix as well, however.


So basically you've ignored the entire thread for the sake of your own confirmation bias.


If there is a compelling argument in this thread beyond "Veritas, so it must be fake!" I've yet to see one; in fact the first two pages consist solely of you and others doing exactly that, so the claim of confirmation bias is rather ironic.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:34 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:
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So basically you've ignored the entire thread for the sake of your own confirmation bias.


If there is a compelling argument in this thread beyond "Veritas, so it must be fake!" I've yet to see one; in fact the first two pages consist solely of you and others doing exactly that, so the claim of confirmation bias is rather ironic.


So what about all the dodges for requests for actual independent verification of the facts presented?
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:45 am

Vassenor wrote:
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If there is a compelling argument in this thread beyond "Veritas, so it must be fake!" I've yet to see one; in fact the first two pages consist solely of you and others doing exactly that, so the claim of confirmation bias is rather ironic.


So what about all the dodges for requests for actual independent verification of the facts presented?


You asking the OP for independent verification is literally not an argument.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:46 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:
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So what about all the dodges for requests for actual independent verification of the facts presented?


You asking the OP for independent verification is literally not an argument.


Ah yes, the old "I can't counter that so it's not a valid argument" defence.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:49 am

Vassenor wrote:
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You asking the OP for independent verification is literally not an argument.


Ah yes, the old "I can't counter that so it's not a valid argument" defence.


You asking the OP to provide independent verification of the documents isn't; he didn't write them, he's not hosting said documents. Thats on Veritas and the rest of the media to do, not random internet commentators.
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Postby Lunyya » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:52 am

I find it hard to trust Youtube for stuff it would have made the mainstream news if it was true I only found 1 website but it was NSFW so i am not linking or saying the website to avoid issues
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