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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:08 am

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The funniest thing is that people still don't want to admit that families are absolute monarchies.


monarchy
noun UK ​ /ˈmɒn.ə.ki/ US ​ /ˈmɑː.nɚ.ki/

[ C ] a country that has a king or queen
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A family is a country that has a king or queen...? What the actual fuck...? :eyebrow:


What do you think the original version of the patriarchy actually is?
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:10 am

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The New California Republic wrote:A family is a country that has a king or queen...? What the actual fuck...? :eyebrow:


What do you think the original version of the patriarchy actually is?

You could just admit that your "families are absolute monarchies" statement is complete bs. ;)
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:11 am

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What do you think the original version of the patriarchy actually is?

You could just admit that your "families are absolute monarchies" statement is complete bs. ;)

It isn't. Maybe not in modern WASP ones but that's because you are lucky.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:12 am

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The New California Republic wrote:You could just admit that your "families are absolute monarchies" statement is complete bs. ;)

It isn't. Maybe not in modern WASP ones but that's because you are lucky.


Then it’s rather irrelevant to compare them to something they’re not, don’t you think?
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:13 am

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The New California Republic wrote:You could just admit that your "families are absolute monarchies" statement is complete bs. ;)

It isn't. Maybe not in modern WASP ones but that's because you are lucky.

It is bs. It's as bs as saying that horse drawn carts are actually cars, as that's what you are doing by fallaciously appealing to the origins of a thing and making them totally equivalent.
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Postby Mzeusia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:13 am

The more time a parent spends with a child, the less need for a tracker there is. It's also better for their development. Trackers of those older than children should not be allowed. That just destroys any trust.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:25 am

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Neko-koku wrote:It isn't. Maybe not in modern WASP ones but that's because you are lucky.


Then it’s rather irrelevant to compare them to something they’re not, don’t you think?

It isn't irrelevant because historically and in many current societies families ARE absolute monarchies.
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Postby The Krogan » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:45 am

Yeah, my parents turned me into an anxious wreck without the need of a tracking system, I don't think children need the extra stress of their parents tracking them at all hours.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:44 am

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Then it’s rather irrelevant to compare them to something they’re not, don’t you think?

It isn't irrelevant because historically and in many current societies families ARE absolute monarchies.


Yes, it is irrelevant. In the past? Perhaps. In yours? So you say. In most modern families? Nope.
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Postby Kaztropol » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:02 pm

If children grow up wearing such a monitor, there will be some that think "well, it didn't do me any harm", and would support it being mandatory. To ensure people's safety etc.

Furthermore: A tech-savvy paedo using a stolen or hacked password, would then know a child's route to/from school or whatever, without having to spy on them in person and risk being seen hanging around. Making them harder to catch when they do strike.

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Postby Scomagia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:13 pm

They should be able to, I guess, but they don't really need to. The great irony of the modern helicopter, fear based parenting is that it's safer now than ever to not be up your kids asses and let them be independent. Sadly, the world is full of really pathetic and weak parents who have completely irrational fears of harm befalling their children.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:16 pm

Kaztropol wrote:If children grow up wearing such a monitor, there will be some that think "well, it didn't do me any harm", and would support it being mandatory. To ensure people's safety etc.

Furthermore: A tech-savvy paedo using a stolen or hacked password, would then know a child's route to/from school or whatever, without having to spy on them in person and risk being seen hanging around. Making them harder to catch when they do strike.

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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:40 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Somewhat arbitrary, but up to the age of around 16 I'm okay with it as looking after children is primarily the role if a parent. Older than that and it'd be a bit creepy.

This is my take on it. The idea isn't terrible, but there needs to be a cutoff point.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:45 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Somewhat arbitrary, but up to the age of around 16 I'm okay with it as looking after children is primarily the role if a parent. Older than that and it'd be a bit creepy.

This is my take on it. The idea isn't terrible, but there needs to be a cutoff point.

No, it's a shitty idea in general. You don't need to track your kids. They are safer than ever and, statistically, are in more danger around you than not given that parents are overwhelmingly responsible for abuse to children.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:10 pm

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:Somewhat arbitrary, but up to the age of around 16 I'm okay with it as looking after children is primarily the role if a parent. Older than that and it'd be a bit creepy.

This is my take on it. The idea isn't terrible, but there needs to be a cutoff point.

Because you aren't an authoritarian by global standards.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:13 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:This is my take on it. The idea isn't terrible, but there needs to be a cutoff point.

Because you aren't an authoritarian by global standards.

It's no more authoritarian than a parent telling their kid they can't go out tonight.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:14 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:This is my take on it. The idea isn't terrible, but there needs to be a cutoff point.

No, it's a shitty idea in general. You don't need to track your kids. They are safer than ever and, statistically, are in more danger around you than not given that parents are overwhelmingly responsible for abuse to children.

I don't think it should be mandatory, but I don't mind parents having the option.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:17 pm

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Neko-koku wrote:Because you aren't an authoritarian by global standards.

It's no more authoritarian than a parent telling their kid they can't go out tonight.

Both are authoritarian. However the former can become a lot worse because it involves enforcement.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:19 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:It's no more authoritarian than a parent telling their kid they can't go out tonight.

Both are authoritarian. However the former can become a lot worse because it involves enforcement.

You find parents raising their kids and keeping track of them to be authoritarian?

I mean, okay. But that's probably one of the most benevolent forms of authoritarianism I've ever seen.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:21 pm

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Neko-koku wrote:Both are authoritarian. However the former can become a lot worse because it involves enforcement.

You find parents raising their kids and keeping track of them to be authoritarian?

I mean, okay. But that's probably one of the most benevolent forms of authoritarianism I've ever seen.


It's authoritarian because nobody agreed to be born into this cruel world and start from the bottom of a society (infant) under authority.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:23 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:You find parents raising their kids and keeping track of them to be authoritarian?

I mean, okay. But that's probably one of the most benevolent forms of authoritarianism I've ever seen.


It's authoritarian because nobody agreed to be born into this cruel world

The concept that nothingness is capable of giving consent is fucking moronic.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:26 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:You find parents raising their kids and keeping track of them to be authoritarian?

I mean, okay. But that's probably one of the most benevolent forms of authoritarianism I've ever seen.


It's authoritarian because nobody agreed to be born into this cruel world and start from the bottom of a society (infant) under authority.

Too bad.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:32 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
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It's authoritarian because nobody agreed to be born into this cruel world

The concept that nothingness is capable of giving consent is fucking moronic.

It isn't. Hence true Libertarianism essentially forbades childbirth.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:34 pm

This should not be allowed. Children are people, not property or prisoners.

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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:34 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:It's authoritarian because nobody agreed to be born into this cruel world
The New California Republic wrote:The concept that nothingness is capable of giving consent is fucking moronic.

It isn't. Hence true Libertarianism essentially forbades childbirth.

Of course it's a moronic concept; something that doesn't exist is incapable of anything, including consent.

Explain to me how nothingness is capable of giving consent. Try. Please. I'd love to see it.
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