Steven Crowder vs Carlos Maza

[Dumb Ideologies]

They're both very overrated dickheads loved by unwell nutters obsessed with milking the latest dramacow on their side for as much smug faux outrage as possible. Both have advocated some degree of violence against those they don't agree with.

That's not equivalency, if I had to choose Crowder seems like a notably worse person but I refuse to "choose" either and support building the profile of another lower-level dickhead by turning him into some persecuted victim figure.

Cancel 'em both, mute both their social media, bye bye, proceed in an offward-fucking direction towards the top edge of the nearest canyon. Whee~!

That's my nuanced well-reasoned opinion, don't @me you'll probably lower my social credit score.

[The Emerald Legion]

Maza advocates attacking people for not agreeing with him.

Why should I be expected to act respectfully and peacefully towards someone who would prefer it if I didn't exist and advocates for the extinction of people like me?

There's a whole false dichotomy here where right-wing violence is largely glossed over and ignored and right wingers can say the most disgusting things about people but then when known fascist Tommy Robinson gets a milkshake thrown on him everyone from liberal to conservative to libertarian to fascist starts complaining about "freedom of speech" and "left-wing political violence" and never shuts up about it. Maza is right for saying we should milkshake people and that fascists should live in fear.

No. No there isn't. Do you want to know why this is an issue? Because y'all couldn't identify a fascist if they were dressed up as Hitler and Goose-stepping around you shouting Nazi slogans. I don't know what the source of this peculiar madness is that's taken the modern left, but you cannot be trusted with rooting out fascism.

You want to talk about 'Right Wing Violence' sure. You have higher odds of being struck by lightning than being killed by a White Supremacist.

There's your context. Right Wing Terrorism is insignificant in the big picture. Meanwhile Liberals are seeing Nazis leaping out of potted plants, from behind doors and hiding in your average conservative.

Is it any wonder people are getting upset that you're calling for the censure and shaming of 'fascists' that your lot can't tell apart from literally half the population who cause an insignificant death toll every once in a blue moon?

[Ifreann]

Why should I be expected to act respectfully and peacefully towards someone who would prefer it if I didn't exist and advocates for the extinction of people like me?

There's a whole false dichotomy here where right-wing violence is largely glossed over and ignored and right wingers can say the most disgusting things about people but then when known fascist Tommy Robinson gets a milkshake thrown on him everyone from liberal to conservative to libertarian to fascist starts complaining about "freedom of speech" and "left-wing political violence" and never shuts up about it. Maza is right for saying we should milkshake people and that fascists should live in fear.

No. No there isn't. Do you want to know why this is an issue? Because y'all couldn't identify a fascist if they were dressed up as Hitler and Goose-stepping around you shouting Nazi slogans. I don't know what the source of this peculiar madness is that's taken the modern left, but you cannot be trusted with rooting out fascism.

You want to talk about 'Right Wing Violence' sure. You have higher odds of being struck by lightning than being killed by a White Supremacist.

There's your context. Right Wing Terrorism is insignificant in the big picture. Meanwhile Liberals are seeing Nazis leaping out of potted plants, from behind doors and hiding in your average conservative.

Is it any wonder people are getting upset that you're calling for the censure and shaming of 'fascists' that your lot can't tell apart from literally half the population who cause an insignificant death toll every once in a blue moon?

As we all know, fascists are only fascists if they kill people.

[The Emerald Legion]

No. No there isn't. Do you want to know why this is an issue? Because y'all couldn't identify a fascist if they were dressed up as Hitler and Goose-stepping around you shouting Nazi slogans. I don't know what the source of this peculiar madness is that's taken the modern left, but you cannot be trusted with rooting out fascism.

You want to talk about 'Right Wing Violence' sure. You have higher odds of being struck by lightning than being killed by a White Supremacist.

There's your context. Right Wing Terrorism is insignificant in the big picture. Meanwhile Liberals are seeing Nazis leaping out of potted plants, from behind doors and hiding in your average conservative.

Is it any wonder people are getting upset that you're calling for the censure and shaming of 'fascists' that your lot can't tell apart from literally half the population who cause an insignificant death toll every once in a blue moon?

As we all know, fascists are only fascists if they kill people.

Typically yes. That is indeed what fascists are famous for. And if they weren't an insignificant group, I feel like their death toll would outpace being struck by lightning.

[Ifreann]

As we all know, fascists are only fascists if they kill people.

Typically yes. That is indeed what fascists are famous for. And if they weren't an insignificant group, I feel like their death toll would outpace being struck by lightning.

It's like you're actively trying to convince people not to take anything you say seriously.

[Tech Support Scammer]

We had a thread about this when it happened, a few months ago.

ETA: Here it is.

I saw it before I made this thread. It did not seem like it was specific talking Steven Crowder situation but about censorship on right winged YouTubers in general. Of course the Steven Crowder situation was probably talked about in that thread though.

[Electic]

Crowder is a talentless hack, a bully and a Koch sugar baby. Maza made a mistake in relying on Youtube to police Crowder's juvenile homophobic attempts at "comedy". Youtube sucks donkey balls...

Carlos Maza is a radical gay Marxist who wants to assault and censor people who disagree with him. Crowder was right in calling out his awful lifestyle and mocking him for it.

This is a great example of Left and Right ideological possession, and belongs in the OP.

[Tornado Queendom]

As we all know, fascists are only fascists if they kill people.

Typically yes. That is indeed what fascists are famous for. And if they weren't an insignificant group, I feel like their death toll would outpace being struck by lightning.

I think that you're more likely to choke on a hot dog on any given year than be killed by the right-wing in 2019, even at their worst.

Antifa, however...

[Ifreann]

Typically yes. That is indeed what fascists are famous for. And if they weren't an insignificant group, I feel like their death toll would outpace being struck by lightning.

I think that you're more likely to choke on a hot dog on any given year than be killed by the right-wing in 2019, even at their worst.

Antifa, however...

Kill millions a day.

[Tech Support Scammer]

Crowder is a talentless hack, a bully and a Koch sugar baby. Maza made a mistake in relying on Youtube to police Crowder's juvenile homophobic attempts at "comedy". Youtube sucks donkey balls...

Carlos Maza is a radical gay Marxist who wants to assault and censor people who disagree with him. Crowder was right in calling out his awful lifestyle and mocking him for it.

This is a great example of Left and Right ideological possession, and belongs in the OP.

Welcome to the centrist gang.

[Electic]

This is a great example of Left and Right ideological possession, and belongs in the OP.

Welcome to the centrist gang.

Do I get a t-shirt?

[Estanglia]

Typically yes. That is indeed what fascists are famous for. And if they weren't an insignificant group, I feel like their death toll would outpace being struck by lightning.

I think that you're more likely to choke on a hot dog on any given year than be killed by the right-wing in 2019, even at their worst.

Antifa, however...

Kills thousands every day with the power of milkshakes.

[Tech Support Scammer]

Welcome to the centrist gang.

Do I get a t-shirt?

Yes, you get a centrist dad t-shirt.

[Cerinda]

Typically yes. That is indeed what fascists are famous for. And if they weren't an insignificant group, I feel like their death toll would outpace being struck by lightning.

I think that you're more likely to choke on a hot dog on any given year than be killed by the right-wing in 2019, even at their worst.

Antifa, however...

Antifa haven't killed a single person. The right-wing however have massacred entire Mosques, Churches, Synagogues, they've bombed buildings, abortion clinics, parks, etc.

So one side is murdering people, while the other is throwing milkshakes and punching Nazis, but I forgot Antifa bad.

[Liriena]

I think that you're more likely to choke on a hot dog on any given year than be killed by the right-wing in 2019, even at their worst.

Antifa, however...

Antifa haven't killed a single person. The right-wing however have massacred entire Mosques, Churches, Synagogues, they've bombed buildings, abortion clinics, parks, etc.

So one side is murdering people, while the other is throwing milkshakes and punching Nazis, but I forgot Antifa bad.

ANTIFA BAD

[Electic]

I think that you're more likely to choke on a hot dog on any given year than be killed by the right-wing in 2019, even at their worst.

Antifa, however...

Antifa haven't killed a single person. The right-wing however have massacred entire Mosques, Churches, Synagogues, they've bombed buildings, abortion clinics, parks, etc.

So one side is murdering people, while the other is throwing milkshakes and punching Nazis, but I forgot Antifa bad.

Completely condemn those extremest acts of violence, which means I also condemn the punching of "Nazis" by angry vigilantes. Violence as a replacement for discussion is wrong.

[Cerinda]

Antifa haven't killed a single person. The right-wing however have massacred entire Mosques, Churches, Synagogues, they've bombed buildings, abortion clinics, parks, etc.

So one side is murdering people, while the other is throwing milkshakes and punching Nazis, but I forgot Antifa bad.

ANTIFA BAD

Remember they're the real fascists, because fighting Nazis makes you just as bad as one.

[Nova Cyberia]

Oh God, is Manza trying to further ruin YouTube for everyone again?

[Cerinda]

Antifa haven't killed a single person. The right-wing however have massacred entire Mosques, Churches, Synagogues, they've bombed buildings, abortion clinics, parks, etc.

So one side is murdering people, while the other is throwing milkshakes and punching Nazis, but I forgot Antifa bad.

Completely condemn those extremest acts of violence, which means I also condemn the punching of "Nazis" by angry vigilantes. Violence as a replacement for discussion is wrong.

Ah yes Andy Ngo, the man who harassed and filmed people without their permission (which is illegal btw) and lied that he had concrete thrown on him. That claim has been debunked and anyone with a brain knows that concrete won't settle while mixed with at least 1% sugar.

I am against violence as well, but one side is doing a lot more harm than the other.

[Tech Support Scammer]

ANTIFA BAD

Remember they're the real fascists, because fighting Nazis makes you just as bad as one.

I hate the whole insult of calling Antifa fascist due to a lot of Antifa members being anarchist, which is the exact opposite of fascism

[Ifreann]

Oh God, is Manza trying to further ruin YouTube for everyone again?

Try reading the OP, not just the title.

[Nova Cyberia]

ANTIFA BAD

Remember they're the real fascists, because fighting Nazis makes you just as bad as one.

The only ones actually fighting Nazis in the US is the federal government.

Antifa prefers to occupy itself with trash cans and conservative figures.

[The Emerald Legion]

I think that you're more likely to choke on a hot dog on any given year than be killed by the right-wing in 2019, even at their worst.

Antifa, however...

Antifa haven't killed a single person. The right-wing however have massacred entire Mosques, Churches, Synagogues, they've bombed buildings, abortion clinics, parks, etc.

So one side is murdering people, while the other is throwing milkshakes and punching Nazis, but I forgot Antifa bad.

It's almost like the right wing is anything that isn't literal communism as far as lefty statisticians are concerned and the stats are recorded as such.

Also, the Baseball shooting and Dayton Shooting were Both Antifa. Not to mention the firebombings that could have been lethal but weren't.

You don't get moral points for incompetence.

[Cerinda]

Remember they're the real fascists, because fighting Nazis makes you just as bad as one.

I hate the whole insult of calling Antifa fascist due to a lot of Antifa members being anarchist, which is the exact opposite of fascism

Thank you, finally someone who gets it. Call Antifa violent, call them authoritarian if you like but fascist? No. Calling them that is an insult to all the victims of fascism and those who died fighting it.

[Nova Cyberia]

I hate the whole insult of calling Antifa fascist due to a lot of Antifa members being anarchist, which is the exact opposite of fascism

Thank you, finally someone who gets it. Call Antifa violent, call them authoritarian if you like but fascist? No. Calling them that is an insult to all the victims of fascism and those who died fighting it.

That's true. The soldiers who died fighting fascism in Europe were far braver than Antifa.