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Postby Benuty » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:04 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Both sides are stupid, both sides have crazy screaming nuts.

I'd say nominally The White Supremacists are worse but Crowder isn't one, he's just an idiot.
As is Maza.

Can we talk about people who actually matter?

If we could actually talk about the people who mattered then we obviously would be in a position of power which none of us (thank God) are.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:06 pm

Benuty wrote:
Scomagia wrote:That's a weak dodge. You are making the case that by investigating terror groups that aren't white supremacists, the Fed is effectively less capable of investigating white supremacist terrorists. That is a claim you need to prove.


The federal government has been accidentally pretty good at stirring up white supremacist sentiment in the past. I wouldn't say its weaker as it is idiotic in the approach. Case in point, the overblown reaction at Waco caused people who sympathized with white supremacist values to become full-blown white supremacists. This was only hardened when U.S marshalls and others fired onto a family at Ruby Ridge killing a mother, and child. This kicked the hornet's nest equivalent of white supremacists in the pacific northwest harder than anything you can imagine. It doesn't help that the government would be found to have had a role in the very events leading up to Ruby Ridge (by accident).

Nothing in your post actually supports Liri's claim. All I take from your post is that the Fed can be heavy handed and foolish, to which my response is "uh duh".
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:14 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Benuty wrote:If we could actually talk about the people who mattered then we obviously would be in a position of power which none of us (thank God) are.

*Coughs*
Politician here. :p


Also, I read the whole thread, and both sides distorted facts and pushed their own propaganda.

I'm not Centrist, but I'm ashamed of the left and right for propagating falsehoods about both sides-especially with the shootings, completely disrespectful. I expect better from you guys.

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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:36 pm

Well, Crowder vaguely understands the concept of a "joke", doesn't work for Vox, and doesn't whine as much.
Still trash, but just less trash enough for it to be measurable.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:39 pm

Not a fan of Crowder, but Carlos Maza is a neurotic and dangerous individual.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:42 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Ifreann wrote: :roll:

How cute, you roll your eyes as if it's an argument.
Run along.

Oh, but you expecting better, clearly we should all be hanging our heads in shame. We have been admonished, citizens, by *checks notes* some kid on the internet.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:46 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:How cute, you roll your eyes as if it's an argument.
Run along.

Oh, but you expecting better, clearly we should all be hanging our heads in shame. We have been admonished, citizens, by *checks notes* some kid on the internet.

Real South Park levels of smug there, Ifreann.
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Postby Molonia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:36 pm

Just because you're a politician doesn't make you any more 'right' than anybody else.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:39 pm

Proctopeo wrote:Well, Crowder vaguely understands the concept of a "joke", doesn't work for Vox, and doesn't whine as much.
Still trash, but just less trash enough for it to be measurable.

I can bear watching Crowder’s comedy, I cringe at Maza's
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:39 pm

Molonia wrote:Just because you're a politician doesn't make you any more 'right' than anybody else.

Nor does being a " kid" make one any less right than anybody else. That is Eternal's point, I believe. If Ifreann is going to play the game of condescension instead of saying anything useful, why Eternal can do the same.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:42 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Well, Crowder vaguely understands the concept of a "joke", doesn't work for Vox, and doesn't whine as much.
Still trash, but just less trash enough for it to be measurable.

I can bear watching Crowder’s comedy, I cringe at Maza's

They are both bad at comedy. Maza, however, has a way of coming across as incredibly punchable. Crowder less so.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:42 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Well, Crowder vaguely understands the concept of a "joke", doesn't work for Vox, and doesn't whine as much.
Still trash, but just less trash enough for it to be measurable.

I can bear watching Crowder’s comedy, I cringe at Maza's


Maza would be a neurotic weirdo but the fact that he apparently has the ear of several powerful people is frightening.
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Postby Molonia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:43 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Molonia wrote:Just because you're a politician doesn't make you any more 'right' than anybody else.

Nor does being a " kid" make one any less right than anybody else. That is Eternal's point, I believe. If Ifreann is going to play the game of condescension instead of saying anything useful, why Eternal can do the same.


Maybe he should take the high road, instead?
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:44 pm

Molonia wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Nor does being a " kid" make one any less right than anybody else. That is Eternal's point, I believe. If Ifreann is going to play the game of condescension instead of saying anything useful, why Eternal can do the same.


Maybe he should take the high road, instead?

I am inclined to agree.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:46 pm

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Benuty wrote:If we could actually talk about the people who mattered then we obviously would be in a position of power which none of us (thank God) are.

*Coughs*
Politician here. :p


Also, I read the whole thread, and both sides distorted facts and pushed their own propaganda.

I'm not Centrist, but I'm ashamed of the left and right for propagating falsehoods about both sides-especially with the shootings, completely disrespectful. I expect better from you guys.


The only thing you should expect from this site is that somewhere, somehow one of these people is probably an intelligence agent sighing as they reflect whether or not to put a bullet in their head. Why? The old days of mass murder, proxy warring, and projects for the greater good of the nation are given way to apathy, and purposelessness.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:48 pm

Benuty wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:*Coughs*
Politician here. :p


Also, I read the whole thread, and both sides distorted facts and pushed their own propaganda.

I'm not Centrist, but I'm ashamed of the left and right for propagating falsehoods about both sides-especially with the shootings, completely disrespectful. I expect better from you guys.


The only thing you should expect from this site is that somewhere, somehow one of these people is probably an intelligence agent sighing as they reflect whether or not to put a bullet in their head. Why? The old days of mass murder, proxy warring, and projects for the greater good of the nation are given way to apathy, and purposelessness.


Jokes aside, while I'd imagine most of this site is composed of teenagers or adults with too much time on their hands is generally a low achieving demographic, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if there are more than a few high profile people who use this website, whether they be intelligence agents, celebrities, corporate executives, or politicians.

Has any public figure ever publicly commented on this site before?
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:48 pm

Benuty wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:*Coughs*
Politician here. :p


Also, I read the whole thread, and both sides distorted facts and pushed their own propaganda.

I'm not Centrist, but I'm ashamed of the left and right for propagating falsehoods about both sides-especially with the shootings, completely disrespectful. I expect better from you guys.


The only thing you should expect from this site is that somewhere, somehow one of these people is probably an intelligence agent sighing as they reflect whether or not to put a bullet in their head. Why? The old days of mass murder, proxy warring, and projects for the greater good of the nation are given way to apathy, and purposelessness.

Are...are you the agent? :eyebrow:
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:50 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Benuty wrote:
The only thing you should expect from this site is that somewhere, somehow one of these people is probably an intelligence agent sighing as they reflect whether or not to put a bullet in their head. Why? The old days of mass murder, proxy warring, and projects for the greater good of the nation are given way to apathy, and purposelessness.


Jokes aside, while I'd imagine most of this site is composed of teenagers or adults with too much time on their hands is generally a low achieving demographic, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if there are more than a few high profile people who use this website, whether they be intelligence agents, celebrities, corporate executives, or politicians.

Has any public figure ever publicly commented on this site before?

Not to my knowledge.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:50 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Jokes aside, while I'd imagine most of this site is composed of teenagers or adults with too much time on their hands is generally a low achieving demographic, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if there are more than a few high profile people who use this website, whether they be intelligence agents, celebrities, corporate executives, or politicians.

Has any public figure ever publicly commented on this site before?

I want to get Yang, Gravel Ojeda, Warren, and some State Politicians on here, honestly.


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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:50 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Jokes aside, while I'd imagine most of this site is composed of teenagers or adults with too much time on their hands is generally a low achieving demographic, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if there are more than a few high profile people who use this website, whether they be intelligence agents, celebrities, corporate executives, or politicians.

Has any public figure ever publicly commented on this site before?

I want to get Yang, Gravel Ojeda, Warren, and some State Politicians on here, honestly.


IRL, I do know a professor at the University of Chicago who has had an account here before, but I think that was awhile ago.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:51 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Jokes aside, while I'd imagine most of this site is composed of teenagers or adults with too much time on their hands is generally a low achieving demographic, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if there are more than a few high profile people who use this website, whether they be intelligence agents, celebrities, corporate executives, or politicians.

Has any public figure ever publicly commented on this site before?

I want to get Yang, Gravel Ojeda, Warren, and some State Politicians on here, honestly.

Warren can take a long walk off a short cliff. Otherwise, fine I guess? Yang is interesting at least.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:52 pm

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I want NS to become a place where politicians mingle with normal people and aren't treated as celebrities. Where we have wide discussions. We have a competent moderator team. I think we can handle it.

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Let's just request news outlets not publish stories on it.

Or we can add lots of new qualified Mods. Either one.


It would 110% be a shitshow lol
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:53 pm

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It would 110% be a shitshow lol

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It already is a shitshow.


And adding actual presidential candidates would make it so much worse. Thank god it's never going to happen at least.
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Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Why

I want NS to become a place where politicians mingle with normal people and aren't treated as celebrities. Where we have wide discussions. We have a competent moderator team. I think we can handle it.

...

Let's just request news outlets not publish stories on it.

Or we can add lots of new qualified Mods. Either one.


They'd probably have to be anonymous. I'd get fired for half of the shit I say on here.
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Postby Tech Support Scammer » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:55 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:...
It already is a shitshow.


And adding actual presidential candidates would make it so much worse. Thank god it's never going to happen at least.

The only presidential candidate I want on this site is Vermin Supreme.
Call me TSS for short.
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