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Steven Crowder vs Carlos Maza

Postby Tech Support Scammer » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:02 pm

I'm pretty sure most of you know about this situation and I could not find a forum on this topic. I don't know how long ago this was but someone who works for Vox named Carlos Maza showed a 1:25 second compilation of Steven Crowder supposedly harassing him and wanted YouTude to do something about it. Maza also complained how his fans have also been harassing him. The end result was Steven Crowder got demonetize.

So what you do guys think about this?

I don't know what to think about this whole thing but there is one thing that I want to say.
I have no sympathy for someone (Steven Crowder) who pushes a union protester and then when that union protester attacks back he sues him. I view whole thing as Karma.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:30 am

Carlos maza who in his brilliance decided to cause another shitstorm for the rest of us.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:32 am

Tech Support Scammer wrote:I'm pretty sure most of you know about this situation and I could not find a forum on this topic. I don't know how long ago this was but someone who works for Vox named Carlos Maza showed a 1:25 second compilation of Steven Crowder supposedly harassing him and wanted YouTude to do something about it. Maza also complained how his fans have also been harassing him. The end result was Steven Crowder got demonetize.

So what you do guys think about this?

I don't know what to think about this whole thing but there is one thing that I want to say.
I have no sympathy for someone (Steven Crowder) who pushes a union protester and then when that union protester attacks back he sues him. I view whole thing as Karma.

We had a thread about this when it happened, a few months ago.

ETA: Here it is.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:32 am

They're basically just the equivalents of each other. Steven Crowder is that guy who thinks conservatism is in touch with reality and Carlos Maza thinks most people are liberals when in reality they both are fringe elements. Crowder calls maza racist and homophobic slurs which totally tear down whatever argument he was making, and Maza says some usual SJW bullshit that kills whatever sympathy anyone felt for him even briefly

I still can't get over the fact that Crowder once voiced "the brain" on Arthur
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:34 am

Rojava Free State wrote:They're basically just the equivalents of each other.

Laughably bad take.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:38 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:They're basically just the equivalents of each other.

Laughably bad take.


"“Milkshake them all. Humiliate them at every turn. Make them dread public organizing,” -Carlos Maza on how throwing milkshakes at people for what they think is better than trying to debate them
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:41 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Laughably bad take.


"“Milkshake them all. Humiliate them at every turn. Make them dread public organizing,” -Carlos Maza on how throwing milkshakes at people for what they think is better than trying to debate them

Cool. Your take remains laughably bad and you are only making yourself look worse by trying to defend your claim that two people are equivalent by only quoting one of them.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:43 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
"“Milkshake them all. Humiliate them at every turn. Make them dread public organizing,” -Carlos Maza on how throwing milkshakes at people for what they think is better than trying to debate them

Cool. Your take remains laughably bad and you are only making yourself look worse by trying to defend your claim that two people are equivalent by only quoting one of them.


Oh no Steven Crowder said mean things. Carlos Maza is better cause he advocates actually assaulting people

^this is literally you. You can say it's laughably bad all you want. I'm sure the other 2 people in this site with left wing views agree
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Tech Support Scammer wrote:I'm pretty sure most of you know about this situation and I could not find a forum on this topic.

I have never heard about this. Maybe that’s why it’s not a topic here
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:50 am

Let's be clear I'm not defending crowder. I find him to be insufferable and half the time his ideas are based on the usual conservative political propoganda. Unlike a lot of people though, my dislike for one side of the political compass doesn't push me into the arms of the other.

But watch on any political thread how I'll be accused by one side of supporting the other,like the time someone accused me of being for "open borders" after I said ICE was out of control and snatching up American citizens
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:54 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Cool. Your take remains laughably bad and you are only making yourself look worse by trying to defend your claim that two people are equivalent by only quoting one of them.


Oh no Steven Crowder said mean things. Carlos Maza is better cause he advocates actually assaulting people

^this is literally you.

I didn't say anything about either Crowder or Maza. I said that you are wrong, laughably wrong, to call them equivalent.
You can say it's laughably bad all you want. I'm sure the other 2 people in this site with left wing views agree

Look kid, imagine you had said that Crowder and Maza were the same height. Then imagine that when I said that they aren't, you said "Here's Carlos Maza saying how tall he is". Okay. That doesn't mean they're the same height.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:59 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Oh no Steven Crowder said mean things. Carlos Maza is better cause he advocates actually assaulting people

^this is literally you.

I didn't say anything about either Crowder or Maza. I said that you are wrong, laughably wrong, to call them equivalent.
You can say it's laughably bad all you want. I'm sure the other 2 people in this site with left wing views agree

Look kid, imagine you had said that Crowder and Maza were the same height. Then imagine that when I said that they aren't, you said "Here's Carlos Maza saying how tall he is". Okay. That doesn't mean they're the same height.


Maza advocates attacking people for not agreeing with him. Chowder ridicules and mocks those who don't agree with him. Not the same thing but both are equivalent as assholes to me.

Why don't we just cut the crap right now. Are you supporting carlos maza or not? If we're gonna argue then I wanna know your position in full
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Postby Nakena » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:59 am

Didn we had a thread on this some weeks ago or is this something new?

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:03 am

Nakena wrote:Didn we had a thread on this some weeks ago or is this something new?


That's how culture wars work. Both sides continue bringing up the same talking points and eventually someone realizes they're stuck on repeat.

And then when you dare to say "why don't we try and peacefully debate these issues without coming to blows or strawmanning so bad that an actual wicker man gets built, " both sides accuse you of being on the other side and point out the other side's issues as if it makes their side angels and not just other partisans on a fight over meaningless bullshit.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Nakena » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:10 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Nakena wrote:Didn we had a thread on this some weeks ago or is this something new?


That's how culture wars work. Both sides continue bringing up the same talking points and eventually someone realizes they're stuck on repeat.

And then when you dare to say "why don't we try and peacefully debate these issues without coming to blows or strawmanning so bad that an actual wicker man gets built, " both sides accuse you of being on the other side and point out the other side's issues as if it makes their side angels and not just other partisans on a fight over meaningless bullshit.


We should errect a thunderdome (or dig a pit) and put them to a fight. That'd be at least entertaining.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:16 am

Not this shit again... ಠ_ಠ

Crowder is a talentless hack, a bully and a Koch sugar baby. Maza made a mistake in relying on Youtube to police Crowder's juvenile homophobic attempts at "comedy". Youtube sucks donkey balls.

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Postby Surkiea » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:18 am

Carlos Maza is a radical gay Marxist who wants to assault and censor people who disagree with him. Crowder was right in calling out his awful lifestyle and mocking him for it.
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Postby Shrive » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:18 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Maza advocates attacking people for not agreeing with him.


Why should I be expected to act respectfully and peacefully towards someone who would prefer it if I didn't exist and advocates for the extinction of people like me?

There's a whole false dichotomy here where right-wing violence is largely glossed over and ignored and right wingers can say the most disgusting things about people but then when known fascist Tommy Robinson gets a milkshake thrown on him everyone from liberal to conservative to libertarian to fascist starts complaining about "freedom of speech" and "left-wing political violence" and never shuts up about it. Maza is right for saying we should milkshake people and that fascists should live in fear.

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Postby Liriena » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:20 am

Surkiea wrote:Carlos Maza is a radical gay Marxist who wants to assault and censor people who disagree with him. Crowder was right in calling out his awful lifestyle and mocking him for it.

lmao thank you very cool
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Postby Sebenica » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:25 am

Carlos Maza took a joke out of context and spun part of that joke as if it said the word "fags", when it was actually "figs".

He is a manchild who seems to get off to trying to deplatform, censor and call for the assault of people who he disagrees with.

He calls for those who disagree with him to be milkshaked.

He spins things into his favour, making it seem like he is the victim.

The verbal diarrhoea he spew on Twitter was entirely baseless and pointless.

Actual waste of carbon.

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Postby Sebenica » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:27 am

Shrive wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Maza advocates attacking people for not agreeing with him.


Why should I be expected to act respectfully and peacefully towards someone who would prefer it if I didn't exist and advocates for the extinction of people like me?

There's a whole false dichotomy here where right-wing violence is largely glossed over and ignored and right wingers can say the most disgusting things about people but then when known fascist Tommy Robinson gets a milkshake thrown on him everyone from liberal to conservative to libertarian to fascist starts complaining about "freedom of speech" and "left-wing political violence" and never shuts up about it. Maza is right for saying we should milkshake people and that fascists should live in fear.

Maza is right for calling for the assault of people you disagree with?

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Postby Liriena » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:28 am

Sebenica wrote:Carlos Maza took a joke out of context and spun part of that joke as if it said the word "fags", when it was actually "figs".

Have you ever heard of the concept of puns? Wordplay? Double entendre?
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Postby Crockerland » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:29 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Oh no Steven Crowder said mean things. Carlos Maza is better cause he advocates actually assaulting people

^this is literally you.

I didn't say anything about either Crowder or Maza. I said that you are wrong, laughably wrong, to call them equivalent.
You can say it's laughably bad all you want. I'm sure the other 2 people in this site with left wing views agree

Look kid, imagine you had said that Crowder and Maza were the same height. Then imagine that when I said that they aren't, you said "Here's Carlos Maza saying how tall he is". Okay. That doesn't mean they're the same height.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:39 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I didn't say anything about either Crowder or Maza. I said that you are wrong, laughably wrong, to call them equivalent.

Look kid, imagine you had said that Crowder and Maza were the same height. Then imagine that when I said that they aren't, you said "Here's Carlos Maza saying how tall he is". Okay. That doesn't mean they're the same height.


Maza advocates attacking people for not agreeing with him. Chowder ridicules and mocks those who don't agree with him. Not the same thing but both are equivalent as assholes to me.

So when you said that they're equivalent, you just meant that you dislike both of them?

That's not them being equivalent.

Why don't we just cut the crap right now. Are you supporting carlos maza or not? If we're gonna argue then I wanna know your position in full

I'm arguing that Maza and Crowder aren't equivalent.


Nakena wrote:Didn we had a thread on this some weeks ago or is this something new?

We had a thread about this in June. It's locked now, but I linked it above.
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