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Who do you support?

Mauricio Macri/Miguel Pichetto(Juntos por el Cambio
12
32%
Alberto Fernandez/Cristina Kirchner(Frente por Todos)
16
42%
Roberto Lavagna/Juan Manuel Urtubey(Conseso Federal 2030)
8
21%
Other(Tell us whom)
2
5%
 
Total votes : 38

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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:20 pm

Liriena wrote:Aaaaaaand that's pretty much it. Neoliberalism is dead but not necessarily out of it, and Peronism got its groove back. The one thing making me sad is that Myriam Bregman, probably the best person in the Worker's Left Front, probably won't make it to Congress.


Has anybody made a determination on the real question gripping Argentina? Namely, are they white?

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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:00 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Liriena wrote:Aaaaaaand that's pretty much it. Neoliberalism is dead but not necessarily out of it, and Peronism got its groove back. The one thing making me sad is that Myriam Bregman, probably the best person in the Worker's Left Front, probably won't make it to Congress.


Has anybody made a determination on the real question gripping Argentina? Namely, are they white?

We've been having this conversation in college. Consensus is that the fact that our artificial national culture, as designed and enforced by our elites, is so obsessed with maintaining that we are, in fact, a white country accidentally stuck in Latin America is just pure ideology. And also no. At least, not beyond mass self-delusion.
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For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:03 pm

The ideological edifice surrounding our self-professed whiteness is absurd and awful. It seems to mostly exist as a way for our elites to pretend that the class struggles in our country are just some sort of natural racial conflict while also pretending that we're fundamentally homogenous. We're Schrodinger's mayos.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Phoenicaea » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:33 pm

displeased for argentina, italy, turkey, russia with their regimes. here we have to live as submitted, in a dark age of complacent tyranny.

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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:07 pm

Liriena wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Has anybody made a determination on the real question gripping Argentina? Namely, are they white?

We've been having this conversation in college. Consensus is that the fact that our artificial national culture, as designed and enforced by our elites, is so obsessed with maintaining that we are, in fact, a white country accidentally stuck in Latin America is just pure ideology. And also no. At least, not beyond mass self-delusion.


I sincerely thought this was just a meme. I didn't realize a few people I talked to may have been serious. What a time to be alive. Argentina sounds like a hell of a place.

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Postby Liriena » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:14 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Liriena wrote:We've been having this conversation in college. Consensus is that the fact that our artificial national culture, as designed and enforced by our elites, is so obsessed with maintaining that we are, in fact, a white country accidentally stuck in Latin America is just pure ideology. And also no. At least, not beyond mass self-delusion.


I sincerely thought this was just a meme. I didn't realize a few people I talked to may have been serious. What a time to be alive. Argentina sounds like a hell of a place.

Oh, man, chances are they were dead serious.

The best part is that this racial delusion is so deeply ingrained that we've learned to direct our American-like anti-black racism at argies who're just slightly more dark skinned than the self-proclaimed "white" ones. But because most of the people we call black (and denigrate for it) aren't actually of African descent, it's hilariously common for racist "white" argies to add this nifty little caveat: they call them "black of head".
be gay do crime


I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


⚧Copy and paste this in your sig
if you passed biology and know
gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧

I disown most of my previous posts

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Postby Duhon » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:10 am

Liriena wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
I sincerely thought this was just a meme. I didn't realize a few people I talked to may have been serious. What a time to be alive. Argentina sounds like a hell of a place.

Oh, man, chances are they were dead serious.

The best part is that this racial delusion is so deeply ingrained that we've learned to direct our American-like anti-black racism at argies who're just slightly more dark skinned than the self-proclaimed "white" ones. But because most of the people we call black (and denigrate for it) aren't actually of African descent, it's hilariously common for racist "white" argies to add this nifty little caveat: they call them "black of head".


haha wtf
look guys we could try and pump life into this country
or we could literally split fucking hairs
which is easier?

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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:46 am

Liriena wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
I sincerely thought this was just a meme. I didn't realize a few people I talked to may have been serious. What a time to be alive. Argentina sounds like a hell of a place.

Oh, man, chances are they were dead serious.

The best part is that this racial delusion is so deeply ingrained that we've learned to direct our American-like anti-black racism at argies who're just slightly more dark skinned than the self-proclaimed "white" ones. But because most of the people we call black (and denigrate for it) aren't actually of African descent, it's hilariously common for racist "white" argies to add this nifty little caveat: they call them "black of head".


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