Mosque worshipper, 65, takes down heavily armed gunman

[Neko-koku]

I was reading on the murdered sister. Is he the killer? I know he was suspected but I hadn’t heard if he was the definite killer.

So far all signs point to him being the killer. They found her when they went to his home right after he had been arrested.

Good evidence that it is yet another instance of incel violence.

Incel antisocial violence is actually very easy to understand. It is just like DOS spamming here. The goal is to cause as much damage as possible to humanity. Thankfully they aren't actually capable of starting a nuclear war for example because people who can do that are very unlikely to be incel.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

So far all signs point to him being the killer. They found her when they went to his home right after he had been arrested.

Good evidence that it is yet another instance of incel violence.

Incel antisocial violence is actually very easy to understand. It is just like DOS spamming here. The goal is to cause as much damage as possible to humanity. Thankfully they aren't actually capable of starting a nuclear war for example because people who can do that are very unlikely to be incel.

They're crazies. Just call them crazies, ffs.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

And we are supposed to discuss what exactly?

How a would-be mass shooter was stopped by someone who wasn't packing an arsenal?

Another Gauth shitpost.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I was reading on the murdered sister. Is he the killer? I know he was suspected but I hadn’t heard if he was the definite killer.

So far all signs point to him being the killer. They found her when they went to his home right after he had been arrested.

At the very least is a good indication of what he was capable of doing.

[Neko-koku]

Good evidence that it is yet another instance of incel violence.

Incel antisocial violence is actually very easy to understand. It is just like DOS spamming here. The goal is to cause as much damage as possible to humanity. Thankfully they aren't actually capable of starting a nuclear war for example because people who can do that are very unlikely to be incel.

They're crazies. Just call them crazies, ffs.

Yeah.

Or maybe he killed his sister for whatever reason and then needed to rehabilitate his social image. Killing a sister is nothing to be proud of in almost any Western subculture. On the other hand shooting Muslims can make him a hero in the WN community and WNs may even break him out of prison if he serves their cause. Hence the mosque attack.

[United States of Devonta]

I think "dog whistle" would work for this guy ^^^

And it makes sense for a Muslim to rejoice this. And it's well on-topic for him to do so on this thread.

This is an interesting post, since you first try to distance yourself from the person you quote by referring to him as "this guy" although quoting him directly, then still try to justify yourself.
I wouldn't have objected to anything had a thread been created with meaningful discussion/factual observation of the attempted killing, and if in such a thread a Muslim had rejoiced.
But this thread is, from the start, a Muslim rejoicing with his pals, and not a thread talking about the fact in itself. There is little debate here but to praise the man in question. It may seem cold, but that's not really called a debate. It's called a circlejerk.[/quote]

And? I was making fun of you, by taking your light weight arguments less seriously.

This is a terrorist attack that was stopped. Nazi's bad. Old man good. Muslim's inside are now not victims. Not much to debate. Dear lord, man. Your're really grasping for straws here.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

They're crazies. Just call them crazies, ffs.

Yeah.

Or maybe he killed his sister for whatever reason and then needed to rehabilitate his social image. Killing a sister is nothing to be proud of in almost any Western subculture. On the other hand shooting Muslims can make him a hero in the WN community and WNs may even break him out of prison if he serves their cause. Hence the mosque attack.

Maybe in his demented mind that's a good plan.

He's crazy regardless; no sane person just up and murders their sister.

[Neko-koku]

Yeah.

Or maybe he killed his sister for whatever reason and then needed to rehabilitate his social image. Killing a sister is nothing to be proud of in almost any Western subculture. On the other hand shooting Muslims can make him a hero in the WN community and WNs may even break him out of prison if he serves their cause. Hence the mosque attack.

Maybe in his demented mind that's a good plan.

He's crazy regardless; no sane person just up and murders their sister.

Right. But then no sane person murders people in a modern society except for elites. Shall we simply convert prisons into mental health institutions because I can easily argue that in a rich society where people aren't starving non-elites commiting any policed crime is unprofitable and hence indicative of irrationality and maybe mental illness?

[Kowani]

Maybe in his demented mind that's a good plan.

He's crazy regardless; no sane person just up and murders their sister.

Right. But then no sane person murders people in a modern society except for elites. Shall we simply convert prisons into mental health institutions?

So, about those homicide rates…

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Maybe in his demented mind that's a good plan.

He's crazy regardless; no sane person just up and murders their sister.

Right. But then no sane person murders people in a modern society.

What baffling logic this is.

Killing people doesn't automatically make one crazy. It's who they kill, how many people they kill, how they kill them, and their reason for killing them that determines whether they're a psycho or not.

[Arcanda]

And? I was making fun of you, by taking your light weight arguments less seriously.

This is a terrorist attack that was stopped. Nazi's bad. Old man good. Muslim's inside are now not victims. Not much to debate. Dear lord, man. Your're really grasping for straws here.

Light-weight arguments...Yet you wrote another line to answer them. Nevermind, I like picking those details out to analyze the intent behind the post - But that's a fallacy, I assume.
I do agree with you, though. There's no debate here. The thread could have been about what pushes white supremacists to act, how Muslims are seen across Europe, etc...All of those relevant themes tied to the event in question.
But due to how OP was framed, everyone is saying the old guy was good and everyone's moving on. Well, not everyone, but perhaps 2/3 of the posts I've read so far.

[Neko-koku]

Right. But then no sane person murders people in a modern society except for elites. Shall we simply convert prisons into mental health institutions?

So, about those homicide rates…

That's actually a reasonable but un-PC explanation.

[Neko-koku]

Right. But then no sane person murders people in a modern society.

What baffling logic this is.

Killing people doesn't automatically make one crazy. It's who they kill, how many people they kill, how they kill them, and their reason for killing them that determines whether they're a psycho or not.

Killing people in a society where one can not get away with is IS unprofitable and we can argue that this is indicative of some mental illness.

[Gravlen]

So far all signs point to him being the killer. They found her when they went to his home right after he had been arrested.

At the very least is a good indication of what he was capable of doing.

Yeah. His scary potential for being a mass murderer isn't lessened by the fact that he killed a family member first.

[United States of Devonta]

And? I was making fun of you, by taking your light weight arguments less seriously.

This is a terrorist attack that was stopped. Nazi's bad. Old man good. Muslim's inside are now not victims. Not much to debate. Dear lord, man. Your're really grasping for straws here.

Light-weight arguments...Yet you wrote another line to answer them. Nevermind, I like picking those details out to analyze the intent behind the post - But that's a fallacy, I assume.
I do agree with you, though. There's no debate here. The thread could have been about what pushes white supremacists to act, how Muslims are seen across Europe, etc...All of those relevant themes tied to the event in question.
But due to how OP was framed, everyone is saying the old guy was good and everyone's moving on. Well, not everyone, but perhaps 2/3 of the posts I've read so far.

That's how most of these threads are. Obviously their is people who are willing to discuss it in more detail. As we already have lol. I didn't even have to read the OP to come up with an issue to address. He provides a copy of an article in his post that easily creates multiple avenues of debate and discussion. Stop whining and grasping at straws. And claiming everything is "Islamic propaganda".

[Washington Resistance Army]

What baffling logic this is.

Killing people doesn't automatically make one crazy. It's who they kill, how many people they kill, how they kill them, and their reason for killing them that determines whether they're a psycho or not.

Killing people in a society where one can not get away with is IS unprofitable and we can argue that this is indicative of some mental illness.

40% of murders go unsolved each year.

[Neko-koku]

Killing people in a society where one can not get away with is IS unprofitable and we can argue that this is indicative of some mental illness.

40% of murders go unsolved each year.

So what? That's 60% solved. Are you going to murder someone? I'm not because I don't want to go to fucking prison.

[Galloism]

40% of murders go unsolved each year.

So what? Are you going to murder someone? I'm not because I don't want to go to fucking prison.

That’s your only reason?

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

What baffling logic this is.

Killing people doesn't automatically make one crazy. It's who they kill, how many people they kill, how they kill them, and their reason for killing them that determines whether they're a psycho or not.

Killing people in a society where one can not get away with is IS unprofitable and we can argue that this is indicative of some mental illness.

That's a fruitcake argument.

[Kowani]

So what? Are you going to murder someone? I'm not because I don't want to go to fucking prison.

That’s your only reason?

Are you surprised?

[Neko-koku]

I think we can argue that murder in a modern society has to be downstream from mental illness. After all there are already enough murderers in prison and we know how mentally healthy they are. They aren't.

Shall we actually convert prisons into psychiatry wards? Because...because...mentally healthy people are unlikely to be in prison and that crime IS an indication of mental illness?

[Arcanda]

And claiming everything is "Islamic propaganda".

I never did so...The first occurrence of such a claim was on this very thread when I read the obviously very biased OP which asked no question and didn't properly open the debate. That wasn't grasping at straws or whining; simply an observation which seems to have deeply flustered you.

Now, I agree that pursuing this debate would be pointless given the way it's headed, especially since it's straying far away from my original point.

[Neko-koku]

So what? Are you going to murder someone? I'm not because I don't want to go to fucking prison.

That’s your only reason?

I can't profit from murdering people either.

[Galloism]

That’s your only reason?

I can't profit from murdering people either.

Depends on the situation doesn’t it?

[Cekoviu]

It's so horrible that this had to happen in the first place, but he's a hero for stopping it. What a badass.