Mosque worshipper, 65, takes down heavily armed gunman

[Gormwood]

Eid mubarak (Happy Eid [Celebration]) NSG, and it's definitely a blessed Eid indeed! I give kudos to this man from stopping another massacre! Alhamdulilah (All praise belongs to Allah), lives have been saved. This is definitely inspiring because it shows that no one will be intimated by the alt-right no matter what they do. Preserving life is the best thing in Islam and this is exactly what this brother did when tackling a hostile enemy. May Allah bless him for his courage. Amen.

Thank you for this nice bit of Islamic propaganda, now to quote one of the early posters of this thread: What are we supposed to discuss?

It's nice that another Christchurch was nipped in the bud and there aren't people who wished it wasn't stopped because Muslims?

[Jolthig]

Eid mubarak (Happy Eid [Celebration]) NSG, and it's definitely a blessed Eid indeed! I give kudos to this man from stopping another massacre! Alhamdulilah (All praise belongs to Allah), lives have been saved. This is definitely inspiring because it shows that no one will be intimated by the alt-right no matter what they do. Preserving life is the best thing in Islam and this is exactly what this brother did when tackling a hostile enemy. May Allah bless him for his courage. Amen.

Thank you for this nice bit of Islamic propaganda, now to quote one of the early posters of this thread: What are we supposed to discuss?

"Islamic propaganda?"

In turn, your post is propaganda for its red herring nature.

Anyway. I gave the response to that poster of why I am bringing this thread up.

[United States of Devonta]

Eid mubarak (Happy Eid [Celebration]) NSG, and it's definitely a blessed Eid indeed! I give kudos to this man from stopping another massacre! Alhamdulilah (All praise belongs to Allah), lives have been saved. This is definitely inspiring because it shows that no one will be intimated by the alt-right no matter what they do. Preserving life is the best thing in Islam and this is exactly what this brother did when tackling a hostile enemy. May Allah bless him for his courage. Amen.

Thank you for this nice bit of Islamic propaganda, now to quote one of the early posters of this thread: What are we supposed to discuss?

What?

Happy Eid Mubarak!

[Neko-koku]

Thank you for this nice bit of Islamic propaganda, now to quote one of the early posters of this thread: What are we supposed to discuss?

What?

Happy Eid Mubarak!

Just "Eid Mubarak"..

[Neko-koku]

On that topic, why is Islamism always separated from far right extremism? Isn't Jihadism far right?

Could be a distinction made for religious reasons. I don’t know. The far right doesn’t seem to consider it far right.

It's due to the tribal, non-ideological nature of most people.

Most people do not understand any ideology. However tribalism which is of animalistic origins is natural to them. To most people if WNs are far right then their enemies must be far left.

[Jolthig]

What?

Happy Eid Mubarak!

Just "Eid Mubarak"..

This as "Mubarak" means "happy" in Arabic.

[United States of Devonta]

Thank you for this nice bit of Islamic propaganda, now to quote one of the early posters of this thread: What are we supposed to discuss?

"Islamic propaganda?"

In turn, your post is propaganda for its red herring nature.

Anyway. I gave the response to that poster of why I am bringing this thread up.

If it was a christian he would most likely not respond in this way.

Something tells me he doesn't like Muslims.

[Jolthig]

"Islamic propaganda?"

In turn, your post is propaganda for its red herring nature.

Anyway. I gave the response to that poster of why I am bringing this thread up.

If it was a christian he would most likely not respond in this way.

Something tells me he doesn't like Muslims.

I know, and it's why I, in part post these threads to pierce and expose their red herring fallacies. To expose their unfounded hatred of Islam. Especially those who respond in the way he does.

[United States of Devonta]

What?

Happy Eid Mubarak!

Just "Eid Mubarak"..

Thank you. Iv'e only been to prayer 3 times.

I'm obviously speaking out of a little ignorance of Islam, as I am a Christian. But hey, we all come from the same god.

[Jolthig]

Just "Eid Mubarak"..

Thank you. Iv'e only been to prayer 3 times.

I'm obviously speaking out of a little ignorance of Islam, as I am a Christian. But hey, we all come from the same god.

Forsho! I'll be happy to introduce you to more islamic concepts.

Anytime

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Thank you. Iv'e only been to prayer 3 times.

I'm obviously speaking out of a little ignorance of Islam, as I am a Christian. But hey, we all come from the same god.

Forsho! I'll be happy to introduce you to more islamic concepts.

Anytime

So Happy Eid Mubarak is just redundant?

[Jolthig]

Forsho! I'll be happy to introduce you to more islamic concepts.

Anytime

So Happy Eid Mubarak is just redundant?

Yeah because if you say that to an Arab man, they'll think you're overdoing it. It's like how I did it in TET, I simply said, "Happy Eid" since "mubarak" means "happy" in this context.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

So Happy Eid Mubarak is just redundant?

Yeah because if you say that to an Arab man, they'll think you're overdoing it. It's like how I did it in TET, I simply said, "Happy Eid" since "mubarak" means "happy" in this context.

Gotcha. Happy Eid or Eid Mubarak then.

[Neko-koku]

Murderous incels are basically similar to disruptive DOSes on NS.

[Otira]

So Happy Eid Mubarak is just redundant?

Yeah because if you say that to an Arab man, they'll think you're overdoing it. It's like how I did it in TET, I simply said, "Happy Eid" since "mubarak" means "happy" in this context.

Do you still sacrifice animals for the holiday or is that like an outdated thing?

[Arcanda]

It's nice that another Christchurch was nipped in the bud and there aren't people who wished it wasn't stopped because Muslims?

"Islamic propaganda?"

In turn, your post is propaganda for its red herring nature.

Anyway. I gave the response to that poster of why I am bringing this thread up.

The OP reads like a communiqué from the Revolutionary Guards. It begs no question to which we could answer, or no subject which we could debate. Don't pretend otherwise, lmao.

I know, and it's why I, in part post these threads to pierce and expose their red herring fallacies. To expose their unfounded hatred of Islam. Especially those who respond in the way he does.

I do object to Islam, although hating would be too strong a word given I am fairly removed from it and have not been subjected to its worst aspects. I don't need your threads to declare it; but I try not to barge into them and openly proclaim it with no basis for an argument, much like you barged into NSG with this thread and little else for discussion. Red herring fallacies are nice buzzwords, but I simply wanted to point out what I already wrote about the OP.

[Jolthig]

It's nice that another Christchurch was nipped in the bud and there aren't people who wished it wasn't stopped because Muslims?

"Islamic propaganda?"

In turn, your post is propaganda for its red herring nature.

Anyway. I gave the response to that poster of why I am bringing this thread up.

The OP reads like a communiqué from the Revolutionary Guards. It begs no question to which we could answer, or no subject which we could debate. Don't pretend otherwise, lmao.

Okay, so? What's wrong with giving a personal opinion that has nothing to do with the rest of NSG? And what am I pretended? Now you're appealing to motive.

I know, and it's why I, in part post these threads to pierce and expose their red herring fallacies. To expose their unfounded hatred of Islam. Especially those who respond in the way he does.

I do object to Islam, although hating would be too strong a word given I am fairly removed from it and have not been subjected to its worst aspects. I don't need your threads to declare it; but I try not to barge into them and openly proclaim it with no basis for an argument, much like you barged into NSG with this thread and little else for discussion. Red herring fallacies are nice buzzwords, but I simply wanted to point out what I already wrote about the OP.

Object/Hate (given the context of your posts) = Same difference due to your hilarious strawman of my posts in the underlined. And your commentary of the OP was a horrible observation.

[Kowani]

It's nice that another Christchurch was nipped in the bud and there aren't people who wished it wasn't stopped because Muslims?

"Islamic propaganda?"

In turn, your post is propaganda for its red herring nature.

Anyway. I gave the response to that poster of why I am bringing this thread up.

The OP reads like a communiqué from the Revolutionary Guards. It begs no question to which we could answer, or no subject which we could debate. Don't pretend otherwise, lmao.

I know, and it's why I, in part post these threads to pierce and expose their red herring fallacies. To expose their unfounded hatred of Islam. Especially those who respond in the way he does.

I do object to Islam, although hating would be too strong a word given I am fairly removed from it and have not been subjected to its worst aspects. I don't need your threads to declare it; but I try not to barge into them and openly proclaim it with no basis for an argument, much like you barged into NSG with this thread and little else for discussion. Red herring fallacies are nice buzzwords, but I simply wanted to point out what I already wrote about the OP.

Considering that we’re on page 8, I’d say we’ve found a bit to talk about.

[Estanglia]

A 65-year-old man who tackled a gunman who stormed a mosque in Norway is being hailed as a hero.

Witnesses said Mohamed Rafiq restrained the terror suspect and held him down with another worshipper before police arrived, despite being injured in the struggle.

Mr Rafiq was among three people at the al-Noor Islamic Centre in Baerum on Saturday, when a man burst in with “two shotgun-like weapons and a pistol”.

The attacker, who was reportedly wearing a uniform and body armour, broke through a glass door to reach the place of worship, where people were preparing to celebrate the Islamic festival of Eid al-Adha.

Speaking to press outside a nearby hotel on Sunday, Mr Rafiq said: “I’m thankful for all of the help and support I have received.”

He told how he held the gunman down while another worshipper, Mohamed Iqbal, hit him on the head.

Irfan Mushtaq, board member of the mosque, said that minutes before the shooting on Saturday afternoon around 15 people had been inside the building.

The suspect has been named as Philip Manshaus, a 21-year-old local man.

A post on the messaging board 4chan suggested he was a far-right extremist inspired by the Christchurch, Poway and El Paso shooters

Police are investigating the shooting as a potential terror attack, and have arrested a local white man in his 20s on suspicion of attempted murder.

The same man is also accused of killing his 17-year-old stepsister, whose body was found at her home.

“We’re investigating this as an attempt at carrying out an act of terrorism,” assistant chief of police Rune Skjold told a news conference on Sunday.

“We have uncovered extreme right-wing attitudes. The defendant has expressed opinions in which he praises [Norwegian fascist and Nazi collaborator] Quisling and is hostile towards immigration.”

Mr Skjold praised the “great courage” shown by Mr Rafiq and Mr Iqbal in restraining the gunman after several shots were fired, adding: “There is no doubt that their efforts prevented this from having entirely different consequences.”

The suspect remains in custody and is undergoing a psychiatric assessment, officials said.

The mosque earlier this year implemented extra security measures following the massacre of more than 50 people at two mosques in Christchurch.

In 2011, white supremacist Anders Behring Breivik massacred 77 people in Norway’s worst peacetime atrocity, the majority of them teenagers at a youth camp.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 51986.html

Eid mubarak (Happy Eid [Celebration]) NSG, and it's definitely a blessed Eid indeed! I give kudos to this man from stopping another massacre! Alhamdulilah (All praise belongs to Allah), lives have been saved. This is definitely inspiring because it shows that no one will be intimated by the alt-right no matter what they do. Preserving life is the best thing in Islam and this is exactly what this brother did when tackling a hostile enemy. May Allah bless him for his courage. Amen.

Kudos to him for stopping what could've been a second Christchurch.

[United States of Devonta]

It's nice that another Christchurch was nipped in the bud and there aren't people who wished it wasn't stopped because Muslims?

"Islamic propaganda?"

In turn, your post is propaganda for its red herring nature.

Anyway. I gave the response to that poster of why I am bringing this thread up.

The OP reads like a communiqué from the Revolutionary Guards. It begs no question to which we could answer, or no subject which we could debate. Don't pretend otherwise, lmao.

I know, and it's why I, in part post these threads to pierce and expose their red herring fallacies. To expose their unfounded hatred of Islam. Especially those who respond in the way he does.

I do object to Islam, although hating would be too strong a word given I am fairly removed from it and have not been subjected to its worst aspects. I don't need your threads to declare it; but I try not to barge into them and openly proclaim it with no basis for an argument, much like you barged into NSG with this thread and little else for discussion. Red herring fallacies are nice buzzwords, but I simply wanted to point out what I already wrote about the OP.

I think "dog whistle" would work for this guy ^^^

And it makes sense for a Muslim to rejoice this (or any good person). And it's well on-topic for him to do so on this thread.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Good on him.

[Arcanda]

Okay, so? What's wrong with giving a personal opinion that has nothing to do with the rest of NSG? And what am I pretended? Now you're appealing to motive.

Bringing up a list of supposed fallacies while arguing won't save you from not answering the points I addressed. I consider it simply as a refusal on your part to answer my question, because in the end, that's honestly what most fallacies are, easy cards to pull. Ad hominem is perhaps the only one that works. Try pulling that one on me.

Object/Hate (given the context of your posts) = Same difference due to your hilarious strawman of my posts in the underlined. And your commentary of the OP was a horrible observation.

Confusing objection with hate shows a confusion on your part, since these two words imply different levels of rejection. Now, if you want to project on me your image of an evil Islam-hating alt-righter, whom you seem to have designed as enemy number one, then feel free to do so. None of my posts ever implied I am part of those people. I could be born in a Muslim family and, seeing the religion first-hand, distanced myself from it. You don't really imagine such a thing because you identify me with an easy target for whom you have already a prepared response.

"And your commentary of the OP was a horrible observation."
I'm entirely convinced I was wrong now

Considering that we’re on page 8, I’d say we’ve found a bit to talk about.

This is true. Even I am now taking part in the discussion.

I think "dog whistle" would work for this guy ^^^

And it makes sense for a Muslim to rejoice this. And it's well on-topic for him to do so on this thread.

This is an interesting post, since you first try to distance yourself from the person you quote by referring to him as "this guy" although quoting him directly, then still try to justify yourself.
I wouldn't have objected to anything had a thread been created with meaningful discussion/factual observation of the attempted killing, and if in such a thread a Muslim had rejoiced.
But this thread is, from the start, a Muslim rejoicing with his pals, and not a thread talking about the fact in itself. There is little debate here but to praise the man in question. It may seem cold, but that's not really called a debate. It's called a circlejerk.

[Gravlen]

Mohamed Rafiq og Mohamed Iqbal are brave men. The asshole terrorist wannabe who killed his younger sister can burn in Hell and simply be forgotten.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Mohamed Rafiq og Mohamed Iqbal are brave men. The asshole terrorist wannabe who killed his younger sister can burn in Hell and simply be forgotten.

I was reading on the murdered sister. Is he the killer? I know he was suspected but I hadn’t heard if he was the definite killer.

[Gravlen]

Mohamed Rafiq og Mohamed Iqbal are brave men. The asshole terrorist wannabe who killed his younger sister can burn in Hell and simply be forgotten.

I was reading on the murdered sister. Is he the killer? I know he was suspected but I hadn’t heard if he was the definite killer.

So far all signs point to him being the killer. They found her when they went to his home right after he had been arrested.