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Mosque worshipper, 65, takes down heavily armed gunman

Postby Jolthig » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:25 am

A 65-year-old man who tackled a gunman who stormed a mosque in Norway is being hailed as a hero.

Witnesses said Mohamed Rafiq restrained the terror suspect and held him down with another worshipper before police arrived, despite being injured in the struggle.

Mr Rafiq was among three people at the al-Noor Islamic Centre in Baerum on Saturday, when a man burst in with “two shotgun-like weapons and a pistol”.

The attacker, who was reportedly wearing a uniform and body armour, broke through a glass door to reach the place of worship, where people were preparing to celebrate the Islamic festival of Eid al-Adha.

Speaking to press outside a nearby hotel on Sunday, Mr Rafiq said: “I’m thankful for all of the help and support I have received.”

He told how he held the gunman down while another worshipper, Mohamed Iqbal, hit him on the head.

Irfan Mushtaq, board member of the mosque, said that minutes before the shooting on Saturday afternoon around 15 people had been inside the building.

The suspect has been named as Philip Manshaus, a 21-year-old local man.

A post on the messaging board 4chan suggested he was a far-right extremist inspired by the Christchurch, Poway and El Paso shooters

Police are investigating the shooting as a potential terror attack, and have arrested a local white man in his 20s on suspicion of attempted murder.

The same man is also accused of killing his 17-year-old stepsister, whose body was found at her home.

“We’re investigating this as an attempt at carrying out an act of terrorism,” assistant chief of police Rune Skjold told a news conference on Sunday.

“We have uncovered extreme right-wing attitudes. The defendant has expressed opinions in which he praises [Norwegian fascist and Nazi collaborator] Quisling and is hostile towards immigration.”

Mr Skjold praised the “great courage” shown by Mr Rafiq and Mr Iqbal in restraining the gunman after several shots were fired, adding: “There is no doubt that their efforts prevented this from having entirely different consequences.”

The suspect remains in custody and is undergoing a psychiatric assessment, officials said.

The mosque earlier this year implemented extra security measures following the massacre of more than 50 people at two mosques in Christchurch.

In 2011, white supremacist Anders Behring Breivik massacred 77 people in Norway’s worst peacetime atrocity, the majority of them teenagers at a youth camp.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 51986.html

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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:26 am

That’s a badass grandpa. Good on him.
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Postby Springfeal » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:40 am

And we are supposed to discuss what exactly?

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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:58 am

That takes a pretty massive pair of balls.

Good for him.
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:05 am

Springfeal wrote:And we are supposed to discuss what exactly?

Heroism of those who stand up to the alt right especially in cases like this. This thread is literally meant to spread awareness that no one will intimidated by the alt right.
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Postby Springfeal » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:07 am

Jolthig wrote:
Springfeal wrote:And we are supposed to discuss what exactly?

Heroism of those who stand up to the alt right especially in cases like this. This thread is literally meant to spread awareness that no one will intimidated by the alt right.


But, Islamism is a far greater threat than the alt-right... I mean, the number of non-Muslims and LGBT people killed by Islamists by far outweighs what a couple of alt-right people have done.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:07 am

Brave man, well done to him.
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:08 am

Springfeal wrote:And we are supposed to discuss what exactly?

How a would-be mass shooter was stopped by someone who wasn't packing an arsenal?
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:09 am

Springfeal wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Heroism of those who stand up to the alt right especially in cases like this. This thread is literally meant to spread awareness that no one will intimidated by the alt right.


But, Islamism is a far greater threat than the alt-right... I mean, the number of non-Muslims and LGBT people killed by Islamists by far outweighs what a couple of alt-right people have done.

So you think the mosque and all the Muslims worshiping in it are the greater threat and the shooter was thwarted in his attempt to combat terrorism?
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:11 am

Gormwood wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
But, Islamism is a far greater threat than the alt-right... I mean, the number of non-Muslims and LGBT people killed by Islamists by far outweighs what a couple of alt-right people have done.

So you think the mosque and all the Muslims worshiping in it are the greater threat and the shooter was thwarted in his attempt to combat terrorism?

Why do you assume all Muslims are Islamists? That's pretty Islamaphobic of you.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:13 am

That's one gutsy motherfucker, kudos to him for stopping what could've been something far more horrific and gruesome. Still disheartening and saddening to see that some punk was trying to emulate Christchurch, I hope he gets swift justice delivered towards him. Prick.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:14 am

Springfeal wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Heroism of those who stand up to the alt right especially in cases like this. This thread is literally meant to spread awareness that no one will intimidated by the alt right.


But, Islamism is a far greater threat than the alt-right... I mean, the number of non-Muslims and LGBT people killed by Islamists by far outweighs what a couple of alt-right people have done.


While your statement is factually correct, this guy only killed his non-muslim sister at home. Sure you wish to hail him as "a hero" ?
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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:14 am

Springfeal wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Heroism of those who stand up to the alt right especially in cases like this. This thread is literally meant to spread awareness that no one will intimidated by the alt right.


But, Islamism is a far greater threat than the alt-right... I mean, the number of non-Muslims and LGBT people killed by Islamists by far outweighs what a couple of alt-right people have done.

It’s not like Islamism has a couple decades on the alt-right as an ideology…
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Postby Pere Housh Alpha » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:14 am

Damn thumps up to gramps :) :clap:
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Postby Dark Panther » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:14 am

Incredible. Give that man a medal. As well as his fellow parishioner who was said to have aided.

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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:16 am

That man has balls. Good job on his part.
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Postby Maydona » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:17 am

Springfeal wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Heroism of those who stand up to the alt right especially in cases like this. This thread is literally meant to spread awareness that no one will intimidated by the alt right.


But, Islamism is a far greater threat than the alt-right... I mean, the number of non-Muslims and LGBT people killed by Islamists by far outweighs what a couple of alt-right people have done.


I dunno about that when most terrorist attacks, statistically are committed by the right wing.
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The Alma Mater wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
But, Islamism is a far greater threat than the alt-right... I mean, the number of non-Muslims and LGBT people killed by Islamists by far outweighs what a couple of alt-right people have done.


While your statement is factually correct, this guy only killed his non-muslim sister at home. Sure you wish to hail him as "a hero" ?


Who I said I considered him a hero?

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Postby Gormwood » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:17 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So you think the mosque and all the Muslims worshiping in it are the greater threat and the shooter was thwarted in his attempt to combat terrorism?

Why do you assume all Muslims are Islamists? That's pretty Islamaphobic of you.

Since when did you suddenly give a shit about the feelings of Muslims?
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:17 am

Springfeal wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Heroism of those who stand up to the alt right especially in cases like this. This thread is literally meant to spread awareness that no one will intimidated by the alt right.


But, Islamism is a far greater threat than the alt-right... I mean, the number of non-Muslims and LGBT people killed by Islamists by far outweighs what a couple of alt-right people have done.

And so is the far right. All forms of extremism are bad. And also, that does not undo the crimes of of the alt right. Yes, Islamists kill many, but it is also true that the alt rights kills too.
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Postby Great New England Confederation » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:17 am

Kowani wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
But, Islamism is a far greater threat than the alt-right... I mean, the number of non-Muslims and LGBT people killed by Islamists by far outweighs what a couple of alt-right people have done.

It’s not like Islamism has a couple decades on the alt-right as an ideology…


Or a couple of centuries for that matter, and let’s not forget that other Islamics have been targeted just as heavily in the middle-east as non-islamics have

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Postby Pere Housh Alpha » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:19 am

Jolthig wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
But, Islamism is a far greater threat than the alt-right... I mean, the number of non-Muslims and LGBT people killed by Islamists by far outweighs what a couple of alt-right people have done.

And so is the far right. All forms of extremism are bad. And also, that does not undo the crimes of of the alt right. Yes, Islamists kill many, but it is also true that the alt rights kills too.

Don't forget the far left.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:19 am

Jolthig wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
But, Islamism is a far greater threat than the alt-right... I mean, the number of non-Muslims and LGBT people killed by Islamists by far outweighs what a couple of alt-right people have done.

And so is the far right. All forms of extremism are bad. And also, that does not undo the crimes of of the alt right. Yes, Islamists kill many, but it is also true that the alt rights kills too.


The alt right has killed less than 200 people in the past 8 years. Yes, that includes Breivik, christchurch etc. They truly are insignificant in every way.
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:20 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Jolthig wrote:And so is the far right. All forms of extremism are bad. And also, that does not undo the crimes of of the alt right. Yes, Islamists kill many, but it is also true that the alt rights kills too.


The alt right has killed less than 200 people in the past 8 years. Yes, that includes Breivik, christchurch etc. They truly are a neglible threat.

Why does it matter on the amount killed? All forms of extremism are bad.
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:20 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Jolthig wrote:And so is the far right. All forms of extremism are bad. And also, that does not undo the crimes of of the alt right. Yes, Islamists kill many, but it is also true that the alt rights kills too.


The alt right has killed less than 200 people in the past 8 years. Yes, that includes Breivik, christchurch etc. They truly are a neglible threat.

So body count becomes a blank check.
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