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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:47 am

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The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:WoW? People still play that?

Its like 5.8 million players or something by 2018, im not a huge mmo person and even i got back into it for a bit.

Imagine playing WoW when you have Warframe out there being cool.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:22 am

Liriena wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Its like 5.8 million players or something by 2018, im not a huge mmo person and even i got back into it for a bit.

Imagine playing WoW when you have Warframe out there being cool.

Imagine playing multiplayer games when you could just play glorious i s o l a t i o n g a m e s.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:23 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:Religious conservatives and parents in the 90's, and Donald Trump today: Violent video games lead to violence.
Leftists and feminists today: Violent video games lead to violence against women.

Gamers: Just leave us the fuck alone.

My answer to the OP: No. It's pretty evident by now.

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Plenty of religious conservatives in the form of US republicans to this day complaining about video games causing violence.


tbh i have heard some bleeding hearts about Sexism in gaming.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:26 am

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Liriena wrote:Imagine playing WoW when you have Warframe out there being cool.

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:26 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:G A M E R S

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Plenty of religious conservatives in the form of US republicans to this day complaining about video games causing violence.


tbh i have heard some bleeding hearts about Sexism in gaming.

Which is a completely separate thing from what they said, and is often accompanied by a disclaimer that criticism does not mean disliking the game in question.
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Postby Springfeal » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:07 pm

Blaming Fortnite for shootings like blaming Mario Kart for car crashes.

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Postby Pere Housh Alpha » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:19 pm

Springfeal wrote:Blaming Fortnite for shootings like blaming Mario Kart for car crashes.

Agreed :clap:
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Postby Pacomia » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:23 pm

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Pacomia wrote:Don’t forget Wii Sports, which involves actual movement similar to if you were actually playing the sport, or Tetris, which at least helped ME with coordination and reflexes. There are also a lot of logic games that can greatly improve someone’s logical capabilities and encourages them to think outside the box, a real skill that can come in handy in real situations.

Wii is crap at shooting sports though, it only works properly if you're a fucking B-29 gunner.

Yeah, but that wasn’t really what the Wii was made for. It’s better on XBox and arcades because they were made for that sort of thing.
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Postby New Bremerton » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:35 am

Cekoviu wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:Religious conservatives and parents in the 90's, and Donald Trump today: Violent video games lead to violence.
Leftists and feminists today: Violent video games lead to violence against women.

Gamers: Just leave us the fuck alone.

Hello there, I'm a ""leftist"" and a feminist. I have heard that said only rarely and don't think that.
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Anita Sarkeesian is one prominent example. Thunderf00t destroyed her hot take a few years back. I can't find the exact video now. The woman gets paid to spout literal nonsense.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:55 am

New Bremerton wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Hello there, I'm a ""leftist"" and a feminist. I have heard that said only rarely and don't think that.
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Anita Sarkeesian is one prominent example. Thunderf00t destroyed her hot take a few years back. I can't find the exact video now. The woman gets paid to spout literal nonsense.

Isn't thunderfoot, like, a massive dick?
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:02 am

Alvecia wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:
Anita Sarkeesian is one prominent example. Thunderf00t destroyed her hot take a few years back. I can't find the exact video now. The woman gets paid to spout literal nonsense.

Isn't thunderfoot, like, a massive dick?

Does that make him incorrect?
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:07 am

In the cases where video games have been blamed for violent behaviour in children, it's telling that there is usually a child abuse element alongside it. It's rare that a child is violent because of computer games. It's usually the child abuse that causes it.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:44 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Isn't thunderfoot, like, a massive dick?

Does that make him incorrect?

Could. If his rhetoric isn’t logically based.
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Postby Dogmeat » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:51 am

Springfeal wrote:Blaming Fortnite for shootings like blaming Mario Kart for car crashes.

My insurance still doesn't believe I was hit by a flying blue turtle shell. With spikes.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:54 am

Cekoviu wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:Religious conservatives and parents in the 90's, and Donald Trump today: Violent video games lead to violence.
Leftists and feminists today: Violent video games lead to violence against women.

Gamers: Just leave us the fuck alone.

Hello there, I'm a ""leftist"" and a feminist. I have heard that said only rarely and don't think that.
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Didn't anita sarkissian a few years ago claim video games encouraged sexism because their female characters were all designed stereotypically hot? It was the usual "video game bad" campaign
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:55 am

Alvecia wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:
Anita Sarkeesian is one prominent example. Thunderf00t destroyed her hot take a few years back. I can't find the exact video now. The woman gets paid to spout literal nonsense.

Isn't thunderfoot, like, a massive dick?


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Postby Nakena » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:57 am

Quite ironic to think that GamerGater has been the initial momentum of what later became the global national socialist network.

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Postby Alvecia » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:39 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Isn't thunderfoot, like, a massive dick?


Even a broken clock is right twice a day

I don’t actually know anything about him from a GamerGate perspective. I stayed as far away from all of that as possible. I just know he’s not held in very high regard in atheist circles, and that’s being generous.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:04 am

Help, I played Grand Theft Auto once and now, I just can't stop stealing cars!

I played Rollercoaster Tycoon and now I just can't stop plopping down amusements parks in every empty field I pass by.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:12 am

Alvecia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Even a broken clock is right twice a day

I don’t actually know anything about him from a GamerGate perspective. I stayed as far away from all of that as possible. I just know he’s not held in very high regard in atheist circles, and that’s being generous.


I don't know him that well either, but I know one thing. Sarkisian deserves all the criticism in the world with her third wave mysandrist bollocks disguised as "the right for equality"
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:12 am

It was bad enough that we were doing the video game panic of the 90s again, but now we're doing Gamergate again?

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Postby Alvecia » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:17 am

Kannap wrote:Help, I played Grand Theft Auto once and now, I just can't stop stealing cars!

I played Rollercoaster Tycoon and now I just can't stop plopping down amusements parks in every empty field I pass by.

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Postby Page » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:49 am

Ifreann wrote:It was bad enough that we were doing the video game panic of the 90s again, but now we're doing Gamergate again?


In retrospect, it's hilarious to think there was already a moral panic back in the 90's considering how comparatively primitive games were back then. Imagine showing 90's Mortal Kombat to a kid today, they'd be like "What's with the red pixels, is it broken? That's supposed to be blood?!"

Nowadays you can't even play Grand Theft Auto online without a squeaky voiced 11 year old calling you a faggot and threatening to blow up your grandma's house.
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Postby Lanoraie II » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:52 am

Kannap wrote:I played Rollercoaster Tycoon and now I just can't stop plopping down amusements parks in every empty field I pass by.


For me? I can't stop building 40,000ft tall roller coasters that plunge into the Earth at speeds of over 1,000 mph.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:53 am

Page wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It was bad enough that we were doing the video game panic of the 90s again, but now we're doing Gamergate again?


In retrospect, it's hilarious to think there was already a moral panic back in the 90's considering how comparatively primitive games were back then. Imagine showing 90's Mortal Kombat to a kid today, they'd be like "What's with the red pixels, is it broken? That's supposed to be blood?!"

Nowadays you can't even play Grand Theft Auto online without a squeaky voiced 11 year old calling you a faggot and threatening to blow up your grandma's house.

As a fun aside, Rockstar actually paid for negative press for the original GTA game to hype it up.
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