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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:47 pm

Cedoria wrote:Yes. They do cause violence in children.

Thats why I'm an incestuous, inbred King of Burgundy who systematically smothered a bunch of toddlers/infants in order to inherit their claims, then sponsored an Anti-Pope who was a secret Satanist who then seized the Papal States and then neatly excommunicated my main rivals as I wiped out the Karlings, forged the Kingdom of Jerusalem ruled by one of my sons and then had the other son's son bumped off because he married a lowborn commoner with no claim to any titles.


Clearly overindulgence on CK2 was the problem with me, and obviously all of the above info is completely true and not laced with heavy sarcasm. Video games caused it.

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Postby Pacomia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:51 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Cedoria wrote:Yes. They do cause violence in children.

Thats why I'm an incestuous, inbred King of Burgundy who systematically smothered a bunch of toddlers/infants in order to inherit their claims, then sponsored an Anti-Pope who was a secret Satanist who then seized the Papal States and then neatly excommunicated my main rivals as I wiped out the Karlings, forged the Kingdom of Jerusalem ruled by one of my sons and then had the other son's son bumped off because he married a lowborn commoner with no claim to any titles.


Clearly overindulgence on CK2 was the problem with me, and obviously all of the above info is completely true and not laced with heavy sarcasm. Video games caused it.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:53 pm

Pacomia wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Confirmed: Cedoria is iSorrowproductions.

ISP would be great on NSG.

But ISP is the imposter stealing iSorrowproductions' identity... :p
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:57 pm

The link between violence and video games is as tenuous as the link between pornography and violence. In short, there is none, but there's certain groups of people who want to get rid of it because they're primarily consumed by a certain demographic.

Looking at you social conservatives.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:01 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:But seriously though, some consistency in the "TV/movies/video games/whatever cause children to X" department would be appreciated...


Then it wouldn't be used by people to reinforce their own luddite agenda. "Oh no, kids won't date and get preggers anymore, thanks Instagram".
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Postby Chessmistress » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:09 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:The link between violence and video games is as tenuous as the link between pornography and violence. In short, there is none, but there's certain groups of people who want to get rid of it because they're primarily consumed by a certain demographic.

Looking at you social conservatives.


No, it's very different, in many ways.

An example:

Shootings and mass shootings require easy availability of firearms.

Sexual violence doesn't require easy availability of something on the market.

Another example, much more important:

Videogames do not allege to represent reality and nobody believes that they're very similar to reality. Even more important: videogames do not allege that the violence depicted within their virtual worlds is legal and normal within the real world - and nobody believe that.

While there's a lot of people (and very likely the vast majority among young people) believing that pornography depicts actual and normal sex (while it mostly depicts acts of rape, not sex, and such isn't sex but is a crime).
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Postby Pacomia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:11 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Pacomia wrote:ISP would be great on NSG.

But ISP is the imposter stealing iSorrowproductions' identity... :p

Exactly
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Postby New haven america » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:18 pm

Chessmistress wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:The link between violence and video games is as tenuous as the link between pornography and violence. In short, there is none, but there's certain groups of people who want to get rid of it because they're primarily consumed by a certain demographic.

Looking at you social conservatives.


No, it's very different, in many ways.

An example:

Shootings and mass shootings require easy availability of firearms.

Sexual violence doesn't require easy availability of something on the market.

Another example, much more important:

Videogames do not allege to represent reality and nobody believes that they're very similar to reality. Even more important: videogames do not allege that the violence depicted within their virtual worlds is legal and normal within the real world - and nobody believe that.

While there's a lot of people (and very likely the vast majority among young people) believing that pornography depicts actual and normal sex (while it mostly depicts acts of rape, not sex, and such isn't sex but is a crime).

Yes, yes, we get it. Men evil, women helpless, ban everything you don't like to protect women.
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Postby Chessmistress » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:22 pm

New haven america wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:
No, it's very different, in many ways.

An example:

Shootings and mass shootings require easy availability of firearms.

Sexual violence doesn't require easy availability of something on the market.

Another example, much more important:

Videogames do not allege to represent reality and nobody believes that they're very similar to reality. Even more important: videogames do not allege that the violence depicted within their virtual worlds is legal and normal within the real world - and nobody believe that.

While there's a lot of people (and very likely the vast majority among young people) believing that pornography depicts actual and normal sex (while it mostly depicts acts of rape, not sex, and such isn't sex but is a crime).

Yes, yes, we get it. Men evil, women helpless, ban everything you don't like to protect women.


A ban or much stricter regulation of pornography would protect even minors, and also some men.
Indeed in UK the porn filter is mainly meant to protect minors, but it'll have a lot of positive effects even on adult women: the less men are exposed to pornography when they're under 18, the less likely they're to grow developing mysoginistic feelings and disrepecting women.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:24 pm

Chessmistress wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yes, yes, we get it. Men evil, women helpless, ban everything you don't like to protect women.


A ban or much stricter regulation of pornography would protect even minors, and also some men.
Indeed in UK the porn filter is mainly meant to protect minors, but it'll have a lot of positive effects even on adult women: the less men are exposed to pornography when they're under 18, the less likely they're to grow developing mysoginistic feelings and disrepecting women.

This isn't a porn thread, this is a video game thread.

If you want to, then go make a porn thread.
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Postby Pacomia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:26 pm

New haven america wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:
A ban or much stricter regulation of pornography would protect even minors, and also some men.
Indeed in UK the porn filter is mainly meant to protect minors, but it'll have a lot of positive effects even on adult women: the less men are exposed to pornography when they're under 18, the less likely they're to grow developing mysoginistic feelings and disrepecting women.

This isn't a porn thread, this is a video game thread.

If you want to, then go make a porn thread.

Now I want to make a mansplaining thread, but it’ll trigger a ton of people and cause some really dumb and unnecessary arguments.

I say it’s not a real thing. If I tell people that, they’ll eat my face off.
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Postby Risusol » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:28 pm

Naaah, they don't.

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Postby Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:37 pm

Nope. Anyone who says otherwise is a degen.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:41 pm

Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory wrote:Nope. Anyone who says otherwise is a degen.

Hi. You seem to be new here. We don't make generalized statements like this. It's called "trolling."
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Postby Chessmistress » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:48 pm

New haven america wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:
A ban or much stricter regulation of pornography would protect even minors, and also some men.
Indeed in UK the porn filter is mainly meant to protect minors, but it'll have a lot of positive effects even on adult women: the less men are exposed to pornography when they're under 18, the less likely they're to grow developing mysoginistic feelings and disrepecting women.

This isn't a porn thread, this is a video game thread.

If you want to, then go make a porn thread.


I just answered to Costa Fierro comparing videogames and pornography availabilty.
Then I answered to your message.
Both my messages about pornography (AND development of violent behaviors through exogen factors like videogames and porn) are answers to other users.
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Kremlinian Russia wrote:People be saying video games are violent while I peacefully explore the galaxy in Elite Dangerous.


I spend 2/3 of my time in Red Dead choosing a perfect outfit for Arthur.

Lmao same
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Postby Kowani » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:33 pm

How is this argument still taken seriously?
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Postby Inkopolitia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:36 pm

I don't know dude, I have 715 hours in a videogame about squid children shooting their bodily fluids at each other (Yes, it kills them, but death is a temporary incovenience there) and I don't want to shoot anybody.
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Postby Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:38 pm

Kowani wrote:How is this argument still taken seriously?
Obviously, Angry Birds radicalized Al-Qaeda into doing 9/11.

and Counter Strike is an ISIS propaganda!
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:49 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:No. In fact, I need the video games to release some of my anger from time to time.

It's a safety valve.

*A safety Valve.
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Postby Arkhane » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:11 pm

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Arkhane wrote:It's 2019
Videogames no longer cause violence and devil worship.
They now cause sexism and racism!


I still remember all the times various SJWs claimed curvaceous female video game characters encouraged sexism. Fun fact, straight men (for the most part) like the image of an attractive female. Doesn't make us sexist. you can say a woman has a hot body and still think there's more to her as a person than just that. Leave the character designs alone and stop being so upset

Video games do not cause sexism, racism, violence, satanism, or anarchism. All those things existed before video games did


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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:14 pm

Racism and political polarization are definitely driving the current increase in shootings more than any video game content is. Let's tell people to calm the fuck down and stop being racist twits before we make a stink about video games.
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Postby Pacomia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:14 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:No. In fact, I need the video games to release some of my anger from time to time.

It's a safety valve.

*A safety Valve.

Once there was a Valve convention at an airport I was at. Pretty cool.
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