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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:20 pm

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I'm pretty sure he threatened nobody.


(1) Communicates an express or implied threat to cause an incident or condition involving danger to life; or


Walking into a WalMart in such a way that causes people to think you're there to shoot the place up is very much an implied threat to cause an incident or condition involving danger to life.


So basically if people think bad things about a person's state of dress, they're a criminal now.

That's where I thought we were heading with this, hence the "odd flex" argument.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:20 pm

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Which involved walking into the store looking like a terrorist to see if he was stopped.


So having two guns on oneself whilst wearing body armour is looking like a terrorist?

Well, better hope no armies/police departments issue their soldiers/police officers with two guns and armour otherwise we'd have a lot of terrorist threats on our hands when they go anywhere with the guns and armour on them.


And there we go with the reductio ad absurdum.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:20 pm

Gormwood wrote:Clearly men openly carrying rifles and wearing body armor in the wake of mass shootings where the perpetrators carried rifles and wore body armor should be trusted until they start shooting people, at which point you're probably the first one killed.

Tbh I’ve walked into Wal-Mart wearing body armor before. I don’t think I had a rifle though, just my sidearm. Rifle was locked up in the trunk.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:21 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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So having two guns on oneself whilst wearing body armour is looking like a terrorist?

Well, better hope no armies/police departments issue their soldiers/police officers with two guns and armour otherwise we'd have a lot of terrorist threats on our hands when they go anywhere with the guns and armour on them.


And there we go with the reductio ad absurdum.


"Reductio ad absurdum" isn't a thing if the argument was already absurd.
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Postby Estanglia » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:22 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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So having two guns on oneself whilst wearing body armour is looking like a terrorist?

Well, better hope no armies/police departments issue their soldiers/police officers with two guns and armour otherwise we'd have a lot of terrorist threats on our hands when they go anywhere with the guns and armour on them.


And there we go with the reductio ad absurdum.


I'm just taking your logic and applying it to another situation.

Don't want me to do that? Explain why your logic doesn't apply. Crying reductio ad absurdum without that explanation won't convince me that the logic doesn't apply.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:22 pm

Galloism wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Clearly men openly carrying rifles and wearing body armor in the wake of mass shootings where the perpetrators carried rifles and wore body armor should be trusted until they start shooting people, at which point you're probably the first one killed.

Tbh I’ve walked into Wal-Mart wearing body armor before. I don’t think I had a rifle though, just my sidearm. Rifle was locked up in the trunk.


I've walked into a Wal-Mart with a gun and body armor, and I didn't have the benefit of a badge.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:24 pm

Galloism wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Clearly men openly carrying rifles and wearing body armor in the wake of mass shootings where the perpetrators carried rifles and wore body armor should be trusted until they start shooting people, at which point you're probably the first one killed.

Tbh I’ve walked into Wal-Mart wearing body armor before. I don’t think I had a rifle though, just my sidearm. Rifle was locked up in the trunk.

...Why?
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Postby Gravlen » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:26 pm

Aclion wrote:
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I'm pretty sure he threatened nobody.

He did something a reasonable person would expect might cause other reasonable people to be threatened, and stated his intent was to threaten them. Threatening doesn't require an actual verbal statement of intent to do harm.

When did he state that his intent was to threaten? Do you have a link?
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Postby Galloism » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:28 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Galloism wrote:Tbh I’ve walked into Wal-Mart wearing body armor before. I don’t think I had a rifle though, just my sidearm. Rifle was locked up in the trunk.

...Why?

I was on my way home from a standoff with some drug dealers that didn’t want to surrender, and I needed some eggs, bacon, and some pasta.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:31 pm

Galloism wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:...Why?

I was on my way home from a standoff with some drug dealers that didn’t want to surrender, and I needed some eggs, bacon, and some pasta.

You’d think Sith Lords would use lightsabers.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:32 pm

Galloism wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:...Why?

I was on my way home from a standoff with some drug dealers that didn’t want to surrender, and I needed some eggs, bacon, and some pasta.


SWAT?
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Postby Galloism » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:32 pm

Kowani wrote:
Galloism wrote:I was on my way home from a standoff with some drug dealers that didn’t want to surrender, and I needed some eggs, bacon, and some pasta.

You’d think Sith Lords would use lightsabers.

Something something “excessive force”.

Law hasn’t caught up with modern technology.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:33 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Galloism wrote:I was on my way home from a standoff with some drug dealers that didn’t want to surrender, and I needed some eggs, bacon, and some pasta.


SWAT?

We need to eat too.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:33 pm

Galloism wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:...Why?

I was on my way home from a standoff with some drug dealers that didn’t want to surrender, and I needed some eggs, bacon, and some pasta.

Oh yes, I forgot that you worked in law enforcement. That makes much more sense.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:35 pm

Galloism wrote:
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SWAT?

We need to eat too.


Carbonara?

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Postby Galloism » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:36 pm

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Galloism wrote:We need to eat too.


Carbonara?

No, two meals, but looking that up it looks exceptionally tasty.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:36 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:You’d think Sith Lords would use lightsabers.

Something something “excessive force”.

Law hasn’t caught up with modern technology.

Well, there’s a surprise.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:38 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Galloism wrote:We need to eat too.


Carbonara?

That was Han, not Vader.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:38 pm

Galloism wrote:
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SWAT?

We need to eat too.


Lies. You don’t need bacon.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:38 pm

Galloism wrote:
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Carbonara?

No, two meals, but looking that up it looks exceptionally tasty.


It is unironically one of the greatest dishes ever. Easy to mess up, but delicious if done right.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:38 pm

Galloism wrote:
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Carbonara?

No, two meals, but looking that up it looks exceptionally tasty.


It really is.

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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:38 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Galloism wrote:We need to eat too.


Lies. You don’t need bacon.


Oh shit, officer down!
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:40 pm

Telconi wrote:
Galloism wrote:No, two meals, but looking that up it looks exceptionally tasty.


It is unironically one of the greatest dishes ever. Easy to mess up, but delicious if done right.


Don't scramble the eggs.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:43 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Galloism wrote:We need to eat too.


Lies. You don’t need bacon.

Everyone needs bacon.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:44 pm

Kowani wrote:
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Lies. You don’t need bacon.

Everyone needs bacon.


But for Gallo it would have been cannibalism.
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