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Postby Prydania » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:38 pm

Ors Might wrote:Nobody I know fears going anywhere because they might potentially be gunned down. Mass shootings are fairly uncommon compared to other unfortunate events.

I'm a teacher in Florida. The state that said "maybe let teachers carry guns?" as a solution to school shootings. It's a professional hazard we have to prepare for.

I'm also Jewish. And we've had two synagogue in this country in under a year. So now that's a concern when I go to worship.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:40 pm

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I'm not sure if two guns and body armour is natural. It may appear like it but afaik, they're artificial.

Anyway, guns don't cause shootings, video games do so as long as he wasn't playing Pokemon Go, I don't see the problem. /s


Guns don't kill people, dumb people do. There should be a law against being dumb. *nods*

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:43 pm

Galloism wrote:
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Guns don't kill people, dumb people do. There should be a law against being dumb. *nods*

Thats one way to get around the voting rights act.


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Postby Kaztropol » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:59 pm

Anyway, I think it was right that he was arrested.

When someone is being a colossal dumbass, then the police should arrest them, take them down to the station, and then phone someone to come and pick them up.

A couple hours sitting in the cells to let them reflect on how dumb they were, and then an almighty tongue-lashing from whoever comes to pick them up, should deter them from doing something as dumb in future.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:08 pm

Kaztropol wrote:Anyway, I think it was right that he was arrested.

When someone is being a colossal dumbass, then the police should arrest them, take them down to the station, and then phone someone to come and pick them up.

A couple hours sitting in the cells to let them reflect on how dumb they were, and then an almighty tongue-lashing from whoever comes to pick them up, should deter them from doing something as dumb in future.

His wife and his sister both told him it was a dumb idea before he drove down to WalMart. He did it anyway. A tongue-lashing is not going to convince him he was wrong.
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Postby Loftegen 2 » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:38 pm

Open carry, what about it?

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Postby Ors Might » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:50 pm

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Ors Might wrote:Dude was a bit dumb for doing this so soon after a high profile shooting but not sure how this translates to “terroristic threat”. You could argue the body armor is somewhat sketchy but I don’t think open carry is considered terrorism.


It's the open carry plus front sling that makes the charge a possibility. I doubt it would have gotten anywhere if he'd just had a shoulder sling and no body armour.

That seems a bit weird to me. While it isn’t exactly common, it wasn’t unheard of for hunters to have their rifles in a front sling where I used to live.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:02 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Married at twenty, wouldn't have guessed that.

What is that supposed to mean?

That I wouldn't have guessed that someone that young would be married. I'm going to be a groomsman at a wedding next year for the first couple in my friend group to get married. They'll be 29 and 30.


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Most people don't marry that young anymore.

It's Ifreann. Forgive me if I doubt that was the intended point.

But yes, that is true.

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Postby Scomagia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:09 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Scomagia wrote:What is that supposed to mean?

That I wouldn't have guessed that someone that young would be married. I'm going to be a groomsman at a wedding next year for the first couple in my friend group to get married. They'll be 29 and 30.


Scomagia wrote:It's Ifreann. Forgive me if I doubt that was the intended point.

But yes, that is true.

Yeah, can't trust that Iffy. He's always up to something.

More like you're usually snarking or taking potshots in some capacity. I was wrong though. Sorry.
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Postby Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:10 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:Originally I thought he was arrested rightfully, because I thought he had motives to shoot. As I have been reading I wish I could change my vote to "Yes". I believe if it is legal to carry a firearm openly and he didn't hurt anyone this was perfectly legal and he was wrongfully arrested.


Doesn't have to hurt anyone for his conduct to constitute terroristic threats.

Did he threaten anyone though?
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Postby Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:12 pm

US-SSR wrote:It's a good thing he didn't try to buy a violent video game or he really would've been in trouble.

XD ikr "Oh god he bought COD MW and played No Russian and then he has an open carry permit! He is under arrest!"
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:29 pm

Clearly men openly carrying rifles and wearing body armor in the wake of mass shootings where the perpetrators carried rifles and wore body armor should be trusted until they start shooting people, at which point you're probably the first one killed.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:44 pm

Gormwood wrote:Clearly men openly carrying rifles and wearing body armor in the wake of mass shootings where the perpetrators carried rifles and wore body armor should be trusted until they start shooting people, at which point you're probably the first one killed.

So you're fine with store managers calling the police because a black person wearing a hoodie enters the store?
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Postby Prydania » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:48 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Clearly men openly carrying rifles and wearing body armor in the wake of mass shootings where the perpetrators carried rifles and wore body armor should be trusted until they start shooting people, at which point you're probably the first one killed.

So you're fine with store managers calling the police because a black person wearing a hoodie enters the store?

That is such a bad faith false equivalency. A hoodie is not a rifle and body armour. Come on.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:51 pm

Prydania wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:So you're fine with store managers calling the police because a black person wearing a hoodie enters the store?

That is such a bad faith false equivalency. A hoodie is not a rifle and body armour. Come on.

Except it isn't, because you're statistically more likely to get shot by the black guy in the hoodie.
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Postby Prydania » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:55 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Prydania wrote:That is such a bad faith false equivalency. A hoodie is not a rifle and body armour. Come on.

Except it isn't, because you're statistically more likely to get shot by the black guy in the hoodie.

1) Still no, because there's nothing inherently dangerous about black people or hoodies, whereas body armour and guns, especially on the same person, is usually a sign that person is going to start shooting.
2) Gonna have to see the math on that one, chief.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:25 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Clearly men openly carrying rifles and wearing body armor in the wake of mass shootings where the perpetrators carried rifles and wore body armor should be trusted until they start shooting people, at which point you're probably the first one killed.

So you're fine with store managers calling the police because a black person wearing a hoodie enters the store?

Aren't you one of the people who love to accuse me of pulling things out of my ass? Bit hypocritical here.
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Postby Ors Might » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:32 pm

Gormwood wrote:Clearly men openly carrying rifles and wearing body armor in the wake of mass shootings where the perpetrators carried rifles and wore body armor should be trusted until they start shooting people, at which point you're probably the first one killed.

That really depends on where you live. I don’t know about you but I find it far more likely that a guy that resembles that is probably some paintball enthusiast. And yeah, I’m okay with betting my life on that. Why? Because I’m fairly certain that there are more people into paintball in my city than there are people into mass murder.
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Postby Scomagia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:33 pm

Gormwood wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:So you're fine with store managers calling the police because a black person wearing a hoodie enters the store?

Aren't you one of the people who love to accuse me of pulling things out of my ass? Bit hypocritical here.

I wasn't aware that Jersey was the topic.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:34 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Aren't you one of the people who love to accuse me of pulling things out of my ass? Bit hypocritical here.

I wasn't aware that Jersey was the topic.

From the guy who loves to make me the topic.
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Postby Scomagia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:35 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I wasn't aware that Jersey was the topic.

From the guy who loves to make me the topic.

I'm not the topic either. This jerkass who walked into Walmart loaded up is the topic.
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Postby Ors Might » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:35 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I wasn't aware that Jersey was the topic.

From the guy who loves to make me the topic.

Lads, lads, you’re both witty.

Haven’t y’all done this same song and dance before?
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:38 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Gormwood wrote:From the guy who loves to make me the topic.

Lads, lads, you’re both witty.

Haven’t y’all done this same song and dance before?

It does seem familiar, now that you mention it.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:42 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Lads, lads, you’re both witty.

Haven’t y’all done this same song and dance before?

It does seem familiar, now that you mention it.

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Postby Scomagia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:42 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Lads, lads, you’re both witty.

Haven’t y’all done this same song and dance before?

It does seem familiar, now that you mention it.

I was just calling it as I saw it, boss. Jersey's history outside of the thread had no bearing on the validity of their argument. Gormwood deliberately started targeting the poster. I didn't figure it'd be an issue to point it out.

But, to the actual topic, I wonder how hard prosecutors will pursue this if they decide to charge him. And what they'll decide to charge him with.
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