What should be done about Gone With the Wind?

[Ethel mermania]

It was an early movie shot in color, the cinematography was gorgeous. Clark gable at his most dashing, everyone wanted to see scarlett get her comeuppance and redemption. And it is a wonderful soap opera.

Fiddle dee dee.

I forgot this is nationstates, no intelligent thought required, my bad.

[Mexar]

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

^This.

[Ruffletrump]

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

^This.

It's the best damn line in cinematic history.

[The Lone Alliance]

Nothing, I continue to say that about everything anyone finds offensive to things.

Deal with it.

The chronically offended can go fuck themselves.

[Scomagia]

Nothing should be done.

[Scomagia]

Nothing, I continue to say that about everything anyone finds offensive to things.

Deal with it.

The chronically offended can go fuck themselves.

Sideways.

[New Bremerton]

Treat it as historic facepalm porn and ROFLMAO at the sheer ignorance of our ancestors. Like the exceedingly hairy, buck-toothed "Japanese" neighbor from Breakfast at Tiffany's. I totally lost it.

[Rojava Free State]

If you think about it, Django Unchained was basically cinematic revenge against gone with the wind

[Bread Herbert]

......Make it into a movie!

[Cappuccina]

Acknowledge and understand the film's idealistic portrayal of slavery and the South. Apart from that, there is nothing else to do. Works of art can still be appreciated and enjoyed while also being subjected to fair critique.

^Took the words right out of my mouth.

[Hanafuridake]

Honestly wish people would bring up the marital rape scene instead of just the idealized plantation life.

[The Two Jerseys]

The only thing offensive about that movie was casting Leslie Howard in it.

[Scomagia]

Honestly wish people would bring up the marital rape scene instead of just the idealized plantation life.

I honestly wish people would stop finding things to get their panties in a twist over. It's not as though the novel is ever presented as anything but fiction.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

"This film is a propaganda piece." disclaimer before the movie.

[Kaztropol]

afaik, Warner brothers puts this disclaimer before some of their older cartoons on dvd or whatever.



So why not a similar thing on DVDs for gone with the wind ?



The other extreme would be to destroy all negatives and masters, and deny that the film ever existed. Always been at war with Oceania style.

[The Two Jerseys]

afaik, Warner brothers puts this disclaimer before some of their older cartoons on dvd or whatever.

(Image)

So why not a similar thing on DVDs for gone with the wind ?



The other extreme would be to destroy all negatives and masters, and deny that the film ever existed. Always been at war with Oceania style.

I like the way that WB handles it, unlike Disney shoving Song of the South into the vault never to be seen again...

[Rojava Free State]

Honestly wish people would bring up the marital rape scene instead of just the idealized plantation life.

Yeah, even 10 year old me was kinda disturbed by that scene

I guess back then rape was ok as long as you knew your victim or something. Glad we don't think that way (as much) anymore

[Oceania-04032019]

Revisionism blows. Take the movie in the historical context. There’s really no need to over analyze it.

This, I completely agree with this opinion. It sucks that we're removing all these parts of history just because they're offending us, people need to stop this nonsense and just ignore it if they're so offended.

[Kenshiri]

It's a historical piece and should be viewed as such. The only revisions it needs are maybe "this is a propaganda piece" or "this is not a movie that represents the views of [whoever distributed it]," at the beginning, much like how Warner Bros. does it.

[Ethel mermania]

afaik, Warner brothers puts this disclaimer before some of their older cartoons on dvd or whatever.

(Image)

So why not a similar thing on DVDs for gone with the wind ?



The other extreme would be to destroy all negatives and masters, and deny that the film ever existed. Always been at war with Oceania style.

I like the way that WB handles it, unlike Disney shoving Song of the South into the vault never to be seen again...

Song of the south had some snappy tunes.

And actually that disclaimer is not bad

[Giovenith]

afaik, Warner brothers puts this disclaimer before some of their older cartoons on dvd or whatever.

(Image)

So why not a similar thing on DVDs for gone with the wind ?

Pretty much this. You can't punish something for not being able to see into the future and realize that something it was doing would eventually be considered bad, but at the same time, we can't idly sit by and not acknowledge the fact that it does in fact contain something bad lest we unintentionally normalize that behavior again.

[Caliphate of Harlem]

No, gone with the wind is a classic and should not be banned or censored. Washing away things that we consider racist today will only lead to forgetfulness. It’s important that people see these films because they represent how a slice of white America thought, and in some ways still thinks, about race, slavery and the civil war. You can’t deny the past, just wash it off like dirt on a fender, but you can learn from it.

[US-SSR]

Force people to watch it. It's the most stultifying four-hour cinematic stink bomb ever. I cheered when they burned Atlanta.

[Loftegen 2]

Gone with the Wind is a classic film released in 1939 that adapts the 1936 novel of the same name by Margaret Mitchell. The novel/film tells the story of Scarlett O'Hara, the daughter of southern planters in antebellum Georgia, and covers her story throughout the antebellum era, the Civil War, and Reconstruction. Now the movie is considered one of the greatest films every produced, but it is fraught with a number of issues with its story and content. Of course when I say this I refer to how both the film and novel propagate the myth of the Lost Cause of the Confederacy(Basically the idea that the south fought for states rights, honor etc and was only defeated due to overwhelming power.) Not only that but the film also implies that slavery was a benign institution, as evidenced by how the slaves within the film seem to be content/how the film never portrays slavery in an explicitly negative light. Now my question to you NSG is as follows: Given that in recent years there has been a push to remove/reevaluate confederate memorials, monuments, southern history etc...What do you think should be done about Gone with the Wind? Do you believe that it should be banned from sale/public showings/do you think the film is southern propaganda? Or do you feel as if the movie should remain freely available/is fine as it is? Personally I feel that the film should be recognized as an important piece of cinema, but should perhaps be reevaluated for some of its more controversial elements.

Nothing should be done. Not everyone is incapable of dealing with history, nuance, or the fact that other people don't share our own particular values.

[Arlenton]

Shown in theaters instead of all these shitty cut and paste super hero movies.