What should be done about Gone With the Wind?

[Scomagia]

But his alleged "classmates" were dumb and he's totes super smart so naturally censorship is good. *nods*

For someone who said slightly leans in one direction, that's a pretty hardliner accusation, and isn't really doing much but pushing me further in that direction (though it logically shouldn't, humans are quite fragile with emotions, and I'm no different).

Don't take it personally. I often mock ideas I find to be pants-on-head levels of stupid. Censorship being one of those.

[Trinitarium]

It's true that the Confederacy fought for a number of states rights, and it's true some black slaves actually did have it better circumstantially than some poor whites. Those are facts of history.

There's nothing "to be done" about the film. The film tells a story about fictional characters. This sounds exactly like more Marxist revising of history, and it would be unjustified authoritarianism to ban it. Write your own Gone With the Wind if you don't like it.

[New haven america]

It's true that the Confederacy fought for a number of states rights, and it's true some black slaves actually did have it better circumstantially than some poor whites. Those are facts of history.

There's nothing "to be done" about the film. The film tells a story about fictional characters. This sounds exactly like more Marxist revising of history, and it would be unjustified authoritarianism to ban it. Write your own Gone With the Wind if you don't like it.

Oh yes, the state's rights excuse.

Let's just ignore the fact that like, over 2/3's of declarations of succession included the ideas of slavery and slave ownership.

[Leninist Haven]

It's true that the Confederacy fought for a number of states rights, and it's true some black slaves actually did have it better circumstantially than some poor whites. Those are facts of history.

There's nothing "to be done" about the film. The film tells a story about fictional characters. This sounds exactly like more Marxist revising of history, and it would be unjustified authoritarianism to ban it. Write your own Gone With the Wind if you don't like it.

Oh yes, the state's rights excuse.

Let's just ignore the fact that like, over 2/3's of declarations of succession included the ideas of slavery and slave ownership.

To add on, I'm not sure how much it changes my mind (if at all), but the book, to my knowledge, is supposed to be historical-fiction, which is its own genre. I'm not sure how much baggage (if any) that brings into the real world, but I don't think you can completely dislodge it from historical roots.

[Breaking Badlands]

Eventually, he'll find out.

No he won’t. The government will censor it.

That's what he'll find out.

[Breaking Badlands]

It's true that the Confederacy fought for a number of states rights, and it's true some black slaves actually did have it better circumstantially than some poor whites. Those are facts of history.

There's nothing "to be done" about the film. The film tells a story about fictional characters. This sounds exactly like more Marxist revising of history, and it would be unjustified authoritarianism to ban it. Write your own Gone With the Wind if you don't like it.

In a nutshell, yes. It's easy to shit all over something written and performed over 80 years ago. What's the use?

I agree, he should write his own; and then endure its critics.

[The Two Jerseys]

It's true that the Confederacy fought for a number of states rights, and it's true some black slaves actually did have it better circumstantially than some poor whites. Those are facts of history.

There's nothing "to be done" about the film. The film tells a story about fictional characters. This sounds exactly like more Marxist revising of history, and it would be unjustified authoritarianism to ban it. Write your own Gone With the Wind if you don't like it.

I believe that someone actually did just that.

Then they got sued by Margaret Mitchell's estate because the title was "too similar" and lost.

[Ruffletrump]

Nothing should be done about the movie, it's fine as is. Yes it may have some controversial elements, but it is still a highly regarded film and should be available for viewing.

[Breaking Badlands]

It's true that the Confederacy fought for a number of states rights, and it's true some black slaves actually did have it better circumstantially than some poor whites. Those are facts of history.

There's nothing "to be done" about the film. The film tells a story about fictional characters. This sounds exactly like more Marxist revising of history, and it would be unjustified authoritarianism to ban it. Write your own Gone With the Wind if you don't like it.

I believe that someone actually did just that.

Then they got sued by Margaret Mitchell's estate because the title was "too similar" and lost.

I am curious. What was it called. Gone with the Smoke and Mirrors?

[Highever]

It's true that the Confederacy fought for a number of states rights, and it's true some black slaves actually did have it better circumstantially than some poor whites. Those are facts of history.

There's nothing "to be done" about the film. The film tells a story about fictional characters. This sounds exactly like more Marxist revising of history, and it would be unjustified authoritarianism to ban it. Write your own Gone With the Wind if you don't like it.

Oh yes, the state's rights excuse.

Let's just ignore the fact that like, over 2/3's of declarations of succession included the ideas of slavery and slave ownership.

But when you say it was about "states rights" in some sort of attempt to justify it, it makes it sound better! Nevermind the fact that the "rights" that it was over was a states ability to allow slavery or not.

As for the film, leave it be.

[UniversalCommons]

Nothing. The more you talk about this kind of thing, the more it stays alive as an idea. Well intentioned discussion often keeps many ideas alive when they are ready to pass on.

[The Two Jerseys]

I believe that someone actually did just that.

Then they got sued by Margaret Mitchell's estate because the title was "too similar" and lost.

I am curious. What was it called. Gone with the Smoke and Mirrors?

The Wind Done Gone

Apparently the appeals court ruled it was "parody" and allowed it to be published.

[The Blaatschapen]

afaik, Warner brothers puts this disclaimer before some of their older cartoons on dvd or whatever.

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So why not a similar thing on DVDs for gone with the wind ?



The other extreme would be to destroy all negatives and masters, and deny that the film ever existed. Always been at war with Oceania style.

Can we also have this spoiler in any every Bible?

[Grinning Dragon]

afaik, Warner brothers puts this disclaimer before some of their older cartoons on dvd or whatever.

(Image)

So why not a similar thing on DVDs for gone with the wind ?



The other extreme would be to destroy all negatives and masters, and deny that the film ever existed. Always been at war with Oceania style.

As a Warner Brother cartoon junkie I can confirm that message gets displayed and locks the menu and >> buttons, it's annoying as fuck and I find it stupid. Now when I put in a disk I hit random and skip all that bullshit.

[Ethel mermania]

It's true that the Confederacy fought for a number of states rights, and it's true some black slaves actually did have it better circumstantially than some poor whites. Those are facts of history.

There's nothing "to be done" about the film. The film tells a story about fictional characters. This sounds exactly like more Marxist revising of history, and it would be unjustified authoritarianism to ban it. Write your own Gone With the Wind if you don't like it.

Oh yes, the state's rights excuse.

Let's just ignore the fact that like, over 2/3's of declarations of succession included the ideas of slavery and slave ownership.

Tbf, the south did believe slavery was a states rights issue. They seriously believed their constitionally guarenteed freedom to own people was going to be violated. Weird I know, but they weren't wrongm

[Cedoria]

The movie is honestly historical revisionism and ought be disclaimed as such.

Also, I never thought it was a great film, which is by far it's worse crime.

But I'm not going to go up in arms and say ban it or stop people watching it. People like trash films all the time, I like some trash films too. Doesn't mean the film shouldn't exist.

Fiction doesn't need disclaimers.

Forms of fiction that are taken to be real probably should. Like the Bible, and this movie.

[Cedoria]

Nothing should be done about the movie, it's fine as is. Yes it may have some controversial elements, but it is still a highly regarded film and should be available for viewing.

I have no idea why. It's a crappy film.

[Herador]

Nothing should be done about the movie, it's fine as is. Yes it may have some controversial elements, but it is still a highly regarded film and should be available for viewing.

I have no idea why. It's a crappy film.

Because meme's from the 1940's are hard to kill

[The New California Republic]

Nothing should be done about it.

[Ethel mermania]

Nothing should be done about the movie, it's fine as is. Yes it may have some controversial elements, but it is still a highly regarded film and should be available for viewing.

I have no idea why. It's a crappy film.

Which is why no one has ever seen it, and its not #6 on the AFI list of 100 greatest American films ever.

[Herador]

I have no idea why. It's a crappy film.

Which is why no one has ever seen it, and its not #6 on the AFI list of 100 greatest American films ever.

Go poll the public about Citizen Kane, you'd be hard-pressed to find people who aren't giant film nerds who think it's worth its spot either.

[The Two Jerseys]

Which is why no one has ever seen it, and its not #6 on the AFI list of 100 greatest American films ever.

Go poll the public about Citizen Kane, you'd be hard-pressed to find people who aren't giant film nerds who think it's worth its spot either.

It isn't.

Casablanca über alles!

[Ethel mermania]

Which is why no one has ever seen it, and its not #6 on the AFI list of 100 greatest American films ever.

Go poll the public about Citizen Kane, you'd be hard-pressed to find people who aren't giant film nerds who think it's worth its spot either.

I want to argue that even if it is not to taste, from a technical aspect it is a glorious piece of filmmaking for its time....... which kind of proves your point.

[The New California Republic]

Which is why no one has ever seen it, and its not #6 on the AFI list of 100 greatest American films ever.

Go poll the public about Citizen Kane, you'd be hard-pressed to find people who aren't giant film nerds who think it's worth its spot either.

The Godfather is far more deserving of the top spot tbh.

[Herador]

Go poll the public about Citizen Kane, you'd be hard-pressed to find people who aren't giant film nerds who think it's worth its spot either.

The Godfather is far more deserving of the top spot tbh.

Thanks for the back-up Example 1

Go poll the public about Citizen Kane, you'd be hard-pressed to find people who aren't giant film nerds who think it's worth its spot either.

I want to argue that even if it is not to taste, from a technical aspect it is a glorious piece of filmmaking for its time....... which kind of proves your point.

That's fair, most of the best movies aren't exactly good commercial movies. Gone With The Wind just happened to resonate at the time well enough to be both when it released.