by Neko-koku » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:36 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:40 pm
Nakena wrote:Needs more OP or else i'd be closed by the Mods sooner than later.
Other than that I do recognize the Republic of China as the legitimate chinese state as opposed to the bolshevist Beijing clique.
by Neko-koku » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:40 pm
Nakena wrote:Needs more OP or else i'd be closed by the Mods sooner than later.
Other than that I do recognize the Republic of China as the legitimate chinese state as opposed to the bolshevist Beijing clique.
by The Brytish Isles » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:46 pm
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by Neko-koku » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:52 pm
The Brytish Isles wrote:I personally recognise the People’s Republic of China as "China", at least for now. AFAIK the vast majority of Chinese citizens support Beijing over Taipei, and more countries recognise the PRC over the ROC as "China".
Now, I would like to see the return of the Republic of China, though I’d prefer the liberalisation that occurred following the death of Chiang Kai-Shek to be reversed, with China becoming strictly traditionalist-nationalist. Else it’s just going to enable American hegemony.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:55 pm
Nakena wrote:Needs more OP or else i'd be closed by the Mods sooner than later.
Other than that I do recognize the Republic of China as the legitimate chinese state as opposed to the bolshevist Beijing clique.
The Brytish Isles wrote:AFAIK the vast majority of Chinese citizens support Beijing over Taipei, and more countries recognise the PRC over the ROC as "China".
The Brytish Isles wrote:Now, I would like to see the return of the Republic of China, though I’d prefer the liberalisation that occurred following the death of Chiang Kai-Shek to be reversed, with China becoming strictly traditionalist-nationalist. Else it’s just going to enable American hegemony.
by The Brytish Isles » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:58 pm
Neko-koku wrote:The Brytish Isles wrote:I personally recognise the People’s Republic of China as "China", at least for now. AFAIK the vast majority of Chinese citizens support Beijing over Taipei, and more countries recognise the PRC over the ROC as "China".
Now, I would like to see the return of the Republic of China, though I’d prefer the liberalisation that occurred following the death of Chiang Kai-Shek to be reversed, with China becoming strictly traditionalist-nationalist. Else it’s just going to enable American hegemony.
I'm obviously anti-traditionalist because traditionalism in the Sinic sense slows economic and scientific progress and makes life hell. For example it has a uniquely Sinosphere isolationist mindset that I have never seen in any other major civilization. Another issue is Confucian opposition to commerce. A China according to my ideals will be a state as free as Taiwan and as capitalist and as rich as Singapore.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Nakena wrote:Needs more OP or else i'd be closed by the Mods sooner than later.
Other than that I do recognize the Republic of China as the legitimate chinese state as opposed to the bolshevist Beijing clique.LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Agreed here.
Ditto.
Maoist-Occupied China is an illegitimate state that bought it's recognition through cheap slave labor. Taiwan is the last bastion of a true, free, and proud Chinese Nation.The Brytish Isles wrote:AFAIK the vast majority of Chinese citizens support Beijing over Taipei, and more countries recognise the PRC over the ROC as "China".
Chinese citizens live in a police state; you act like they have a choice in what to think.
And again, the so-called "People's Republic" (which is neither of those things) bought it's legitimacy through cheap slave labor.The Brytish Isles wrote:Now, I would like to see the return of the Republic of China, though I’d prefer the liberalisation that occurred following the death of Chiang Kai-Shek to be reversed, with China becoming strictly traditionalist-nationalist. Else it’s just going to enable American hegemony.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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| National Report | “Beautiful Albion” programme aimed at decreasing pollution, cleaning litter and renovating inhabited areas to go ahead, says Westminster correspondent. // Polish Crown Prince Konstanty announces birth of son, both mother and child “in good health.” // Prime Minister White-Patel and Austrian counterpart Leopold Mayr expected to meet in Vienna on Monday to discuss furthering Austro-Brytish ties.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:01 pm
The Brytish Isles wrote:I don’t like America. I don’t like its culture, its identity, its mindset nor its politics. In my ideal world, American hegemony would be as laughable as communism being successful.
by Ethel mermania » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:02 pm
by The Brytish Isles » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:02 pm
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| National Report | “Beautiful Albion” programme aimed at decreasing pollution, cleaning litter and renovating inhabited areas to go ahead, says Westminster correspondent. // Polish Crown Prince Konstanty announces birth of son, both mother and child “in good health.” // Prime Minister White-Patel and Austrian counterpart Leopold Mayr expected to meet in Vienna on Monday to discuss furthering Austro-Brytish ties.
by -Astoria » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:05 pm
Nakena wrote:Needs more OP or else i'd be closed by the Mods sooner than later.
Other than that I do recognize the Republic of China as the legitimate chinese state as opposed to the bolshevist Beijing clique.
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by Ethel mermania » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:06 pm
by Agarntrop » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:08 pm
by Agarntrop » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:09 pm
by Neko-koku » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:11 pm
The Brytish Isles wrote:Neko-koku wrote:
I'm obviously anti-traditionalist because traditionalism in the Sinic sense slows economic and scientific progress and makes life hell. For example it has a uniquely Sinosphere isolationist mindset that I have never seen in any other major civilization. Another issue is Confucian opposition to commerce. A China according to my ideals will be a state as free as Taiwan and as capitalist and as rich as Singapore.
I get what you mean, however, I see capitalism as a quick way to erode a country’s identity, traditions and acts as a gateway to globalisation, something I don’t want.Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Ditto.
Maoist-Occupied China is an illegitimate state that bought it's recognition through cheap slave labor. Taiwan is the last bastion of a true, free, and proud Chinese Nation.
Chinese citizens live in a police state; you act like they have a choice in what to think.
And again, the so-called "People's Republic" (which is neither of those things) bought it's legitimacy through cheap slave labor.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
I don’t like America. I don’t like its culture, its identity, its mindset nor its politics. In my ideal world, American hegemony would be as laughable as communism being successful.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:11 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:The PRC won.
Ethel mermania wrote:If the chinese want to change their government, it's on them.
Ethel mermania wrote:However for the typical peasant life is much better now than it was in 1955, and it is continuing to improve, so I dont see them revolting any time soon.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:13 pm
Agarntrop wrote:The PRC are wankers but to say that Taiwan is more legitimate is laughable. Just because Taiwan aren't also mega wankers dosen't mean that somehow their claim over the entrity of China is more legitimate than the people who actually control it.
by The Brytish Isles » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:18 pm
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| National Report | “Beautiful Albion” programme aimed at decreasing pollution, cleaning litter and renovating inhabited areas to go ahead, says Westminster correspondent. // Polish Crown Prince Konstanty announces birth of son, both mother and child “in good health.” // Prime Minister White-Patel and Austrian counterpart Leopold Mayr expected to meet in Vienna on Monday to discuss furthering Austro-Brytish ties.
by Ethel mermania » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:18 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:The PRC won.
Damn shame, that.Ethel mermania wrote:If the chinese want to change their government, it's on them.
LMAO
Are you for real? They did try to change their government once and got their guts torn out by bayonets for their trouble.Ethel mermania wrote:However for the typical peasant life is much better now than it was in 1955, and it is continuing to improve, so I dont see them revolting any time soon.
Oh yeah, that Social Credit System definitely looks like the path to a better life.
/s
by Ethel mermania » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:20 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Agarntrop wrote:The PRC are wankers but to say that Taiwan is more legitimate is laughable. Just because Taiwan aren't also mega wankers dosen't mean that somehow their claim over the entrity of China is more legitimate than the people who actually control it.
IMO, Beijing's claim is more laughable.
How you claim to be the successor to a state that still exists? The very fact that RoC has endured all this time is an embarrassment for them.
by Neko-koku » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:24 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Damn shame, that.
LMAO
Are you for real? They did try to change their government once and got their guts torn out by bayonets for their trouble.
Oh yeah, that Social Credit System definitely looks like the path to a better life.
/s
Steady food, cleanish water, a large and growing middle class, longer life expectancy, are far more important than what westerners think about china.
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:28 pm
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