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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:53 pm

New Raffica wrote:What a cool and normal country

Sarcasm aside. We are a cool and normal country, but we do unfortunately have assholes who live here. I doubt there is a nation without violent assholes.

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Postby Scomagia » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:14 pm

New Raffica wrote:What a cool and normal country

I'm sure that wherever you're from has people like this too. :roll:
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:15 pm

I mean, it's bad. And he should be tried for it.

Is there more to say?
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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:19 pm

Salus Maior wrote:I mean, it's bad. And he should be tried for it.

Is there more to say?

One could discuss how toxic the American version of patriotism is.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:24 pm

Kowani wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:I mean, it's bad. And he should be tried for it.

Is there more to say?

One could discuss how toxic the American version of patriotism is.

Most of us wouldn't do something like this.

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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:41 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Kowani wrote:One could discuss how toxic the American version of patriotism is.

Most of us wouldn't do something like this.

Why not?
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:51 pm

Kowani wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Most of us wouldn't do something like this.

Why not?


Because seriously injuring a child is contrary to how most (reasonably sane) people behave?
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:55 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Kowani wrote:Why not?


Because seriously injuring a child is contrary to how most (reasonably sane) people behave?

This ^^

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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:56 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Kowani wrote:Why not?


Because seriously injuring a child is contrary to how most (reasonably sane) people behave?

That’s not the point I’m making. The point-is that the American version of patriotism seems to revolve around vapid, community enforced symbolism rather than any genuine sense of love for one’s country.

To use an AntifaStonetoss comic:
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:59 pm

Kowani wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Because seriously injuring a child is contrary to how most (reasonably sane) people behave?

That’s not the point I’m making. The point-is that the American version of patriotism seems to revolve around vapid, community enforced symbolism rather than any genuine sense of love for one’s country.

To use an AntifaStonetoss comic:
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Because I'm sure far-left anarchists represent people who they disagree with accurately. :roll:

Can you spoil that please as well?
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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:07 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Kowani wrote:That’s not the point I’m making. The point-is that the American version of patriotism seems to revolve around vapid, community enforced symbolism rather than any genuine sense of love for one’s country.

To use an AntifaStonetoss comic:
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Because I'm sure far-left anarchists represent people who they disagree with accurately. :roll:

Ignoring the fact that r/antifastonetoss isn’t just for anarchists, but rather, anyone who wants to take the Stonetoss templates and use them to make a point that isn’t Holocaust denialism for a moment, the actual argument remains.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:14 pm

Kowani wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Because I'm sure far-left anarchists represent people who they disagree with accurately. :roll:

Ignoring the fact that r/antifastonetoss isn’t just for anarchists, but rather, anyone who wants to take the Stonetoss templates and use them to make a point that isn’t Holocaust denialism for a moment, the actual argument remains.

Shaming for not doing the pledge is not common based off of my experience, except in my elementary school (I'm certain what they did was illegal), so unless you enter a certain area, it can hardly be called "community enforced" in my opinion. Maybe others will have different stories. Either way, I'm sure that only a tiny minority of people would actually assault a kid or anyone over it.
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Postby The Grims » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:06 pm

Kowani wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Because seriously injuring a child is contrary to how most (reasonably sane) people behave?

That’s not the point I’m making. The point-is that the American version of patriotism seems to revolve around vapid, community enforced symbolism rather than any genuine sense of love for one’s country.


Like how MAGAcaps are made in China ?
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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:07 pm

The Grims wrote:
Kowani wrote:That’s not the point I’m making. The point-is that the American version of patriotism seems to revolve around vapid, community enforced symbolism rather than any genuine sense of love for one’s country.


Like how MAGAcaps are made in China ?

Not a one to one comparison, but illustrative nonetheless.
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Postby Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:59 pm

Well, I for one, think that this man is a true hero. That little brat deserved that beating! Maybe next time he will think about that when he is asked to remove his hat for the pledge of allegiance, so disrespectful!! Trump will be proud of this man. They need to release him for he has done nothing wrong. He is just doing God's work. #NotAllHerosWearCapes :clap:
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:04 am

Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom wrote:Well, I for one, think that this man is a true hero. That little brat deserved that beating! Maybe next time he will think about that when he is asked to remove his hat for the pledge of allegiance, so disrespectful!! Trump will be proud of this man. They need to release him for he has done nothing wrong. He is just doing God's work. #NotAllHerosWearCapes :clap:


Why do you hate free speech?
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Postby Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:06 am

Vassenor wrote:
Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom wrote:Well, I for one, think that this man is a true hero. That little brat deserved that beating! Maybe next time he will think about that when he is asked to remove his hat for the pledge of allegiance, so disrespectful!! Trump will be proud of this man. They need to release him for he has done nothing wrong. He is just doing God's work. #NotAllHerosWearCapes :clap:


Why do you hate free speech?

There is a difference between free speech and disrespecting your nation. This kid clearly has no pride or care for this glorious nation.

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Postby Kowani » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:09 am

Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Why do you hate free speech?

There is a difference between free speech and disrespecting your nation. This kid clearly has no pride or care for this glorious nation.

Yes, I’m sure the Founding Fathers really respected England before they rebelled.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:11 am

Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Why do you hate free speech?

There is a difference between free speech and disrespecting your nation. This kid clearly has no pride or care for this glorious nation.


Remember, wearing a hat is the greatest disrespect. Someone should tell the MAGA crowd they're insulting the country.
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Postby Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:12 am

Kowani wrote:
Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom wrote:There is a difference between free speech and disrespecting your nation. This kid clearly has no pride or care for this glorious nation.

Yes, I’m sure the Founding Fathers really respected England before they rebelled.

That's because England were taxing the living hell out of the colonists. All this guy asked was for this kid to remove his stupid hat for the pledge of allegiance and what did he get? The little shit told him to f**k off! This is the problem with the youth of today, they don't give a damn about this country that our brave boys in blue died multiple times for. They sacrificed their lives for us so we could be free and how do we repay them, he couldn't even take off his hat!
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:13 am

Vassenor wrote:
Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom wrote:Well, I for one, think that this man is a true hero. That little brat deserved that beating! Maybe next time he will think about that when he is asked to remove his hat for the pledge of allegiance, so disrespectful!! Trump will be proud of this man. They need to release him for he has done nothing wrong. He is just doing God's work. #NotAllHerosWearCapes :clap:


Why do you hate free speech?

American nationalism is almost wholly incompatible with freedom in general.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:15 am

Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom wrote:
Kowani wrote:Yes, I’m sure the Founding Fathers really respected England before they rebelled.

That's because England were taxing the living hell out of the colonists. All this guy asked was for this kid to remove his stupid hat for the pledge of allegiance and what did he get? The little shit told him to f**k off!


Source for the comment, even though it doesn't actually justify beating him within an inch of his life.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:16 am

Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom wrote:
Kowani wrote:Yes, I’m sure the Founding Fathers really respected England before they rebelled.

That's because England were taxing the living hell out of the colonists. All this guy asked was for this kid to remove his stupid hat for the pledge of allegiance and what did he get? The little shit told him to f**k off!

We’ll ignore the fact that the current US government taxes more heavily than the British crown did fa second, and point out that free speech includes speech that one does not agree with. And yes, clothing counts as free speech.
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Postby Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:18 am

Kowani wrote:
Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom wrote:That's because England were taxing the living hell out of the colonists. All this guy asked was for this kid to remove his stupid hat for the pledge of allegiance and what did he get? The little shit told him to f**k off!

We’ll ignore the fact that the current US government taxes more heavily than the British crown did fa second, and point out that free speech includes speech that one does not agree with. And yes, clothing counts as free speech.

Whatever, I'm not listening to your lies! Just like Trump said, fake news everywhere nowadays.

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Postby Kowani » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:19 am

Curt Brockways Inferno of Doom wrote: This is the problem with the youth of today, they don't give a damn about this country that our brave boys in blue died multiple times for. They sacrificed their lives for us so we could be free and how do we repay them, he couldn't even take off his hat!

If by “boys in blue” you mean the police, they don’t.
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