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That man is an utter shit stain of a human being, i hope he fucking rots for this.

Attacking a child for "Disrespect" to a fucking song is utterly disgraceful.

Teenager assaulted by who is probably a drunkard at a sporting event, slow news day.

Where was his parents?

Anthem disrespect?
The Red Army Choir sang any anthem better than their own people did. They should have beaten that man for anthem disrespect.

Nantoraka wrote:

Lanoraie II wrote:
I'm not saying he's a good president, in fact I think he's garbage, but Vassenor's unhealthy obsession with blaming anything and everything on Trump is exhausting.

Man beats up kid? That piece of shit must have had something wrong with his he- wait, he was a trump supporter? Trump had something to do with this, didn't he!


it really does get tiring after awhile

Well then, if you're tired of it, maybe you should ask Trump, the Republican Party, and a lot of Trump's supporters to stop saying and doing things that lead to issues like the one in this thread.

For example, the guy who beat up the kid is literally using Trump's calls for violence as his defense.

New haven america wrote:

Nantoraka wrote:Man beats up kid? That piece of shit must have had something wrong with his he- wait, he was a trump supporter? Trump had something to do with this, didn't he!


it really does get tiring after awhile

Well then, if you're tired of it, maybe you should ask Trump, the Republican Party, and a lot of Trump's supporters to stop saying and doing things that lead to issues like the one in this thread.

For example, the guy who beat up the kid is literally using Trump's calls for violence as his defense.

That's about half the country, dear. And the left-wing half seems to enjoy provoking violence wherever it can from the other "deplorable" conservative half. Nothing really changes, does it? Antifa riots and the Republicans are disgusted, a 13 year old boy gets beaten up and the Democrats are disgusted. Both sides are to blame for these sorts of incidents in general. The polarization between the two parties is mutual and not one sided and so is the violence.

And besides, what the man says afterwards can't really take into account all the factors that probably led up to this. Rodeo's are highly charged sporting events and i'm sure everyone was pent up beforehand. If you've lived in a rural area, you would know that there is a much greater emphasis on respecting your elders than there is in urban areas, and the kid cussed at the adult right before the violence broke out. I seriously doubt that he went into the rodeo with the intention of harming someone who didn't respect the national anthem. It wasn't likely premeditated. Given the cultural values likely in place, the combination of a tense political atmosphere and the beginning of the rodeo, i'm not surprised that this happened.

Shitty situation, but most violence at sporting events are. How many riots have started over or during football or baseball or soccer games? I know at least one war broke out.

Alien Overlord wrote:

New haven america wrote:Well then, if you're tired of it, maybe you should ask Trump, the Republican Party, and a lot of Trump's supporters to stop saying and doing things that lead to issues like the one in this thread.

For example, the guy who beat up the kid is literally using Trump's calls for violence as his defense.

1. That's about half the country, dear. 2. And the left-wing half seems to enjoy provoking violence wherever it can from the other "deplorable" conservative half. Nothing really changes, does it? 3. Antifa riots and the Republicans are disgusted, a 13 year old boy gets beaten up and the Democrats are disgusted. Both sides are to blame for these sorts of incidents in general. The polarization between the two parties is mutual and not one sided and so is the violence.

4. And besides, what the man says afterwards can't really take into account all the factors that probably led up to this. Rodeo's are highly charged sporting events and i'm sure everyone was pent up beforehand. If you've lived in a rural area, you would know that there is a much greater emphasis on respecting your elders than there is in urban areas, and the kid cussed at the adult right before the violence broke out. I seriously doubt that he went into the rodeo with the intention of harming someone who didn't respect the national anthem. It wasn't likely premeditated. Given the cultural values likely in place, the combination of a tense political atmosphere and the beginning of the rodeo, i'm not surprised that this happened.

Shitty situation, but most violence at sporting events are. How many riots have started over or during football or baseball or soccer games? I know at least one war broke out.

1. Ok, ask them to stop doing so
2. IIRC, about 87% of terrorism in the US is caused by right-wing groups. That's 12 points higher than last year.
3. Refer to point #2
4. Yes it can

New haven america wrote:

Alien Overlord wrote:1. That's about half the country, dear. 2. And the left-wing half seems to enjoy provoking violence wherever it can from the other "deplorable" conservative half. Nothing really changes, does it? 3. Antifa riots and the Republicans are disgusted, a 13 year old boy gets beaten up and the Democrats are disgusted. Both sides are to blame for these sorts of incidents in general. The polarization between the two parties is mutual and not one sided and so is the violence.

4. And besides, what the man says afterwards can't really take into account all the factors that probably led up to this. Rodeo's are highly charged sporting events and i'm sure everyone was pent up beforehand. If you've lived in a rural area, you would know that there is a much greater emphasis on respecting your elders than there is in urban areas, and the kid cussed at the adult right before the violence broke out. I seriously doubt that he went into the rodeo with the intention of harming someone who didn't respect the national anthem. It wasn't likely premeditated. Given the cultural values likely in place, the combination of a tense political atmosphere and the beginning of the rodeo, i'm not surprised that this happened.

Shitty situation, but most violence at sporting events are. How many riots have started over or during football or baseball or soccer games? I know at least one war broke out.

1. Ok, ask them to stop doing so
2. IIRC, about 87% of terrorism in the US is caused by right-wing groups. That's 12 points higher than last year.
3. Refer to point #2
4. Yes it can

1. I don't need to ask, you can do that yourself. You're likely to be met with the same response as a conservative telling a liberal off. It won't matter.
2. Response from the same year.
3. Refer to point three. Additionally, Dayton shooter Connor Betts had far-left leanings
4. I disagree.

It's amazing how one man can do stupid shit and the entire world uses it to justify their political ideologies.

Trump supporter or not, a lot of this ranting about how "He's a trump supporter, therefore trump supporters bad" is just a tired version of "Hitler was an Atheist" or, for an example that led to their actions, "ISIS is Muslim".

Likewise, yeah, lock him up.

Free Arabian Nation wrote:It's amazing how one man can do stupid shit and the entire world uses it to justify their political ideologies.

Trump supporter or not, a lot of this ranting about how "He's a trump supporter, therefore trump supporters bad" is just a tired version of "Hitler was an Atheist" or, for an example that led to their actions, "ISIS is Muslim".

Likewise, yeah, lock him up.

I'd argue that it's because we are so polarized now that either side of the political spectrum will look for any opportunity to discredit the other. I think that deep down we know that our broad assumptions are untrue, but to admit that would show party division and neither side wants to look weak to the other. The middle ground is socially discouraged. It's easier to generalize and make assumptions.

New haven america wrote:

Alien Overlord wrote:1. That's about half the country, dear. 2. And the left-wing half seems to enjoy provoking violence wherever it can from the other "deplorable" conservative half. Nothing really changes, does it? 3. Antifa riots and the Republicans are disgusted, a 13 year old boy gets beaten up and the Democrats are disgusted. Both sides are to blame for these sorts of incidents in general. The polarization between the two parties is mutual and not one sided and so is the violence.

4. And besides, what the man says afterwards can't really take into account all the factors that probably led up to this. Rodeo's are highly charged sporting events and i'm sure everyone was pent up beforehand. If you've lived in a rural area, you would know that there is a much greater emphasis on respecting your elders than there is in urban areas, and the kid cussed at the adult right before the violence broke out. I seriously doubt that he went into the rodeo with the intention of harming someone who didn't respect the national anthem. It wasn't likely premeditated. Given the cultural values likely in place, the combination of a tense political atmosphere and the beginning of the rodeo, i'm not surprised that this happened.

Shitty situation, but most violence at sporting events are. How many riots have started over or during football or baseball or soccer games? I know at least one war broke out.

1. Ok, ask them to stop doing so
2. IIRC, about 87% of terrorism in the US is caused by right-wing groups. That's 12 points higher than last year.
3. Refer to point #2
4. Yes it can

4 is the worst problem.

As I said before societies do not consider children people.

Nantoraka wrote:

Neko-koku wrote:That's insane.

However let's don't overinterpret it. This looks like another example of severe mental illness just like the Dayton shooting.

It is, he had a brain injury in his service to the military which led him to be honorably discharged.

TBI? It's starting to make sense now.

Necroghastia wrote:

Lanoraie II wrote:
I'm not saying he's a good president, in fact I think he's garbage, but Vassenor's unhealthy obsession with blaming anything and everything on Trump is exhausting.

You have to admit the rhetoric he spouts certainly doesn't help, and this incident might not have happened otherwise.

No, we don't have to admit unfalsifiable claims.

I'm back from my latest ban, given that it's been 4 days and it should be over. I've wanted to opine on this story for a bit.

I'm displeased with both the kid and the man who did this. It wasn't really this man's place to be physically punishing this kid if he's not his father but the teen really should know better than to swear at a stranger like he did. He sort of learned the hard way, that if you intentionally offend someone the wrong way in public- they can get into a fight. A grown man can't exactly go around hitting minors either though, even if they're being a punk.

New haven america wrote:

Nantoraka wrote:Man beats up kid? That piece of shit must have had something wrong with his he- wait, he was a trump supporter? Trump had something to do with this, didn't he!


it really does get tiring after awhile

Well then, if you're tired of it, maybe you should ask Trump, the Republican Party, and a lot of Trump's supporters to stop saying and doing things that lead to issues like the one in this thread.

For example, the guy who beat up the kid is literally using Trump's calls for violence as his defense.

So wait...the guy with an injury to the whole thinky, rational part of his brain says Trump inspired him, so it's true? Jesus, what absolute nonsense. Trump is lousy but you people need to stop blaming him for fucking everything.

Absolutely and utterly abhorrent for a grown man to assault a child like that. Completely unacceptable. Shame on him.

Greater Loegria wrote:Absolutely and utterly abhorrent for a grown man to assault a child like that. Completely unacceptable. Shame on him.

I think some measure of compassion is warranted here. He had a TBI. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be punished but it does reduce his guilt, to me at least.

Scomagia wrote:

Greater Loegria wrote:Absolutely and utterly abhorrent for a grown man to assault a child like that. Completely unacceptable. Shame on him.

I think some measure of compassion is warranted here. He had a TBI. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be punished but it does reduce his guilt, to me at least.

What’s a TBI?

Hopefully everyone involved will learn lessons. The man will learn not to sperg out and assault children, and the boy will learn freedom of speech doesn't necessarily mean freedom from consequences.

Come on everyone, let's hug it out.

Greater Loegria wrote:

Scomagia wrote:I think some measure of compassion is warranted here. He had a TBI. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be punished but it does reduce his guilt, to me at least.

What’s a TBI?

Traumatic Brain Injury.

Blackpilled harsh take:

1. Kids aren't socially considered people because they are physically weak, poor (all kids are poor lol) and have almost no powerful social connections.

2. Due to 1 people can usually randomly harm them and get away with that.

3. Due to 1 and 2 we can in fact measure the strength of a society using the amount of unpoliced child abuse. In the Hobbesian state of nature children are regularly murdered with impunity. As societies strengthen child rights improve.

Otira wrote:Hopefully everyone involved will learn lessons. The man will learn not to sperg out and assault children, and the boy will learn freedom of speech doesn't necessarily mean freedom from consequences.

Come on everyone, let's hug it out.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences?

Then there is absolute free speech in North Korea haha.

Blackpilled take:

Societies never fully abide by laws. If a right can be violated with impunity it de facto doesn't exist.

Scomagia wrote:

Greater Loegria wrote:What’s a TBI?

Traumatic Brain Injury.

Eh. I mean that should be considered I suppose but I don’t think that allows you to abdicate your moral compass and thwack a mere child.

"WHY KID NO STAND FOR MAGIC SONG OF COUNTRY?!?!?!?!?!"

Talk about an absolute piece of shit. That dude's beyond fucked up if he thinks beating a child bloody because they didn't stand for a song is okay.

Feline Kekistan wrote:

Otira wrote:Hopefully everyone involved will learn lessons. The man will learn not to sperg out and assault children, and the boy will learn freedom of speech doesn't necessarily mean freedom from consequences.

Come on everyone, let's hug it out.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences?

Then there is absolute free speech in North Korea haha.

Blackpilled take:

Societies never fully abide by laws. If a right can be violated with impunity it de facto doesn't exist.

Explain the meme pills for me.

Otira wrote:

Feline Kekistan wrote:Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences?

Then there is absolute free speech in North Korea haha.

Blackpilled take:

Societies never fully abide by laws. If a right can be violated with impunity it de facto doesn't exist.

Explain the meme pills for me.

Well, to make it more accurate my "blackpilled takes" are mostly for other STEM nerds who tend to naively believe what societies claim. I'm in fact not an asshat. However such intellectual amoralism is pretty much required for certain STEM nerds who would have killed themselves or done something else crazy due to extreme human hypocrisy and nastiness.