13 Year Old Boy Beaten By MT Man For Anthem "Disrespect"

[Lanoraie II]

Funny how the "BUT MENTAL ILLNESS" thing comes up after it turns out this is another Trump incited act.

Funny how you can't read the thread. Funny how you keep denying much of this is mental illness.

[Nantoraka]

Funny how the "BUT MENTAL ILLNESS" thing comes up after it turns out this is another Trump incited act.

it literally isn't, if you read the articles, you would know that.

[Nantoraka]

It is, he had a brain injury in his service to the military which led him to be honorably discharged.

Well, that would definitely do it. For those who don't know (which is a lot of people in my experience), brain injuries can really screw up your ability to reason and restrain yourself, and impair your ability to think. I mean, it can do pretty much anything to you, but that's the most common thing. A huge sign of brain injury is a person becoming uncharacteristically aggressive or, immediately after receiving the injury, being violent (and completely unaware that they are being so). There was a police officer in hot shit water a few years ago because he tazed a semi-unconscious person with severe brain injury who was swinging violently and punching everyone. And then he got into even more trouble when he then proceeded to threaten an EMT for telling him to stop.

Hell, the brain injury was even in the frontal lobe - supposedly, his problem solving skills and his emotion expressions might have taken a hit.

[Lanoraie II]

Well, that would definitely do it. For those who don't know (which is a lot of people in my experience), brain injuries can really screw up your ability to reason and restrain yourself, and impair your ability to think. I mean, it can do pretty much anything to you, but that's the most common thing. A huge sign of brain injury is a person becoming uncharacteristically aggressive or, immediately after receiving the injury, being violent (and completely unaware that they are being so). There was a police officer in hot shit water a few years ago because he tazed a semi-unconscious person with severe brain injury who was swinging violently and punching everyone. And then he got into even more trouble when he then proceeded to threaten an EMT for telling him to stop.

Hell, the brain injury was even in the frontal lobe - supposedly, his problem solving skills and his emotion expressions might have taken a hit.

Yep, there ya go. That'd DEFINITELY do it. While some people would definitely do this sans brain injury, that definitely explains it.

[Nantoraka]

Funny how the "BUT MENTAL ILLNESS" thing comes up after it turns out this is another Trump incited act.

Funny how you can't read the thread. Funny how you keep denying much of this is mental illness.

Certain people like to jump the gun and squawk about the "but mental illness owo" mocking crap without actually take the time to read anything. We should ignore those people until they put in the effort to read.

Hell, the brain injury was even in the frontal lobe - supposedly, his problem solving skills and his emotion expressions might have taken a hit.

Yep, there ya go. That'd DEFINITELY do it. While some people would definitely do this sans brain injury, that definitely explains it.

I hope the judge doesn't take into account his brain damage this time around. He needs to go.

The lawyer mentioning Trump as being the motivation is about the biggest reach I've seen, I'm suprised he didn't break his back.

[Valentine Z]

It is, he had a brain injury in his service to the military which led him to be honorably discharged.

Well, that would definitely do it. For those who don't know (which is a lot of people in my experience), brain injuries can really screw up your ability to reason and restrain yourself, and impair your ability to think. I mean, it can do pretty much anything to you, but that's the most common thing. A huge sign of brain injury is a person becoming uncharacteristically aggressive or, immediately after receiving the injury, being violent (and completely unaware that they are being so). There was a police officer in hot shit water a few years ago because he tazed a semi-unconscious person with severe brain injury who was swinging violently and punching everyone. And then he got into even more trouble when he then proceeded to threaten an EMT for telling him to stop.

I stand corrected on whether or not mental illness is involved; I didn't know about the increased aggression bit. But goodness, this is the worst piece of news I've heard so far.

I'm sorry, it's just... ugh, this is too hard to bear.

[Lanoraie II]

Well, that would definitely do it. For those who don't know (which is a lot of people in my experience), brain injuries can really screw up your ability to reason and restrain yourself, and impair your ability to think. I mean, it can do pretty much anything to you, but that's the most common thing. A huge sign of brain injury is a person becoming uncharacteristically aggressive or, immediately after receiving the injury, being violent (and completely unaware that they are being so). There was a police officer in hot shit water a few years ago because he tazed a semi-unconscious person with severe brain injury who was swinging violently and punching everyone. And then he got into even more trouble when he then proceeded to threaten an EMT for telling him to stop.

I stand corrected on whether or not mental illness is involved; I didn't know about the increased aggression bit. But goodness, this is the worst piece of news I've heard so far.

I'm sorry, it's just... ugh, this is too hard to bear.

I agree it sucks. Definitely do not endorse this behavior whatsoever, both as a human and as a Montanan.

[Vassenor]

Funny how the "BUT MENTAL ILLNESS" thing comes up after it turns out this is another Trump incited act.

it literally isn't, if you read the articles, you would know that.

"I did this because Trump said I should" suddenly isn't "Trump rhetoric incited act"?

[Lanoraie II]

it literally isn't, if you read the articles, you would know that.

"I did this because Trump said I should" suddenly isn't "Trump rhetoric incited act"?

And you really believe that to be the case? I hate having to bite my tongue on this website.

[Lanoraie II]

And then it turned out the boy was a foreign tourist.

THat's sad:/

That wasn't stated anywhere. It's a local kid.

[Nantoraka]

it literally isn't, if you read the articles, you would know that.

"I did this because Trump said I should" suddenly isn't "Trump rhetoric incited act"?

That's not related to what I said?

Mental illness was mentioned, because mental illness is in play here. How else do you think that this man would've thought that beating a 13 year old kid up is "patriotic"? Or is supposedly "what Trump wanted", according to the rather soulless lawyer he has?

And then it turned out the boy was a foreign tourist.

THat's sad:/

Wrong, he's a local kid.

[Vassenor]

"I did this because Trump said I should" suddenly isn't "Trump rhetoric incited act"?

And you really believe that to be the case? I hate having to bite my tongue on this website.

It should be mentioned, his attorney is citing Trump of all people for the reason behind the attack.

The POS comes from a military background and his attorney says "he was acting on what he believed were Trump's orders".

LOL wut?

Dead serious.

"His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished," Jasper said. "He certainly didn't understand it was a crime."

If there was any indication that lawyers had no soul...

[Lanoraie II]

And you really believe that to be the case? I hate having to bite my tongue on this website.

It should be mentioned, his attorney is citing Trump of all people for the reason behind the attack.

The POS comes from a military background and his attorney says "he was acting on what he believed were Trump's orders".

Dead serious.

"His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished," Jasper said. "He certainly didn't understand it was a crime."

If there was any indication that lawyers had no soul...

So your go-to is "muh Trump" instead of blaming the guy who actually did it and likely was not thinking straight. Your bias is showing.

[Vassenor]

"I did this because Trump said I should" suddenly isn't "Trump rhetoric incited act"?

That's not related to what I said?

Mental illness was mentioned, because mental illness is in play here. How else do you think that this man would've thought that beating a 13 year old kid up is "patriotic"? Or is supposedly "what Trump wanted", according to the rather soulless lawyer he has?

THat's sad:/

Wrong, he's a local kid.

Funny how we keep writing off acts of stochastic terrorism as just mental illness because we want to absolve Trump of any potential wrong-doing.

[Lanoraie II]

That's not related to what I said?

Mental illness was mentioned, because mental illness is in play here. How else do you think that this man would've thought that beating a 13 year old kid up is "patriotic"? Or is supposedly "what Trump wanted", according to the rather soulless lawyer he has?


Wrong, he's a local kid.

Funny how we keep writing off acts of stochastic terrorism as just mental illness because we want to absolve Trump of any potential wrong-doing.

Oh my god dude. Trump has literally nothing to do with some ACTUALLY MENTALLY ILL guy beating a kid because he has actual brain damage. You cannot accuse us of playing the mental illness card as a defense when you constantly play the Trump card as an offense.

[Neanderthaland]

So your go-to is "muh Trump" instead of blaming the guy who actually did it and likely was not thinking straight. Your bias is showing.

I don't think anyone here is failing to blame the guy who did it.

What they are saying is that Trump repeatedly urging his supporters to punch people could incite some of his supporters to punch people. Go figure.

[Nantoraka]

That's not related to what I said?

Mental illness was mentioned, because mental illness is in play here. How else do you think that this man would've thought that beating a 13 year old kid up is "patriotic"? Or is supposedly "what Trump wanted", according to the rather soulless lawyer he has?


Wrong, he's a local kid.

Funny how we keep writing off acts of stochastic terrorism as just mental illness because we want to absolve Trump of any potential wrong-doing.

You haven't read any of the articles yet, have you?

If you have, you wouldn't be so biased, now would you?

[Lanoraie II]

So your go-to is "muh Trump" instead of blaming the guy who actually did it and likely was not thinking straight. Your bias is showing.

I don't think anyone here is failing to blame the guy who did it.

What they are saying is that Trump repeatedly urging his supporters to punch people could incite some of his supporters to punch people. Go figure.

I'm not saying he's a good president, in fact I think he's garbage, but Vassenor's unhealthy obsession with blaming anything and everything on Trump is exhausting.

[Nantoraka]

I don't think anyone here is failing to blame the guy who did it.

What they are saying is that Trump repeatedly urging his supporters to punch people could incite some of his supporters to punch people. Go figure.

I'm not saying he's a good president, in fact I think he's garbage, but Vassenor's unhealthy obsession with blaming anything and everything on Trump is exhausting.

Man beats up kid? That piece of shit must have had something wrong with his he- wait, he was a trump supporter? Trump had something to do with this, didn't he!


it really does get tiring after awhile

[Necroghastia]

I don't think anyone here is failing to blame the guy who did it.

What they are saying is that Trump repeatedly urging his supporters to punch people could incite some of his supporters to punch people. Go figure.

I'm not saying he's a good president, in fact I think he's garbage, but Vassenor's unhealthy obsession with blaming anything and everything on Trump is exhausting.

You have to admit the rhetoric he spouts certainly doesn't help, and this incident might not have happened otherwise.

[Neanderthaland]

I'm not saying he's a good president, in fact I think he's garbage, but Vassenor's unhealthy obsession with blaming anything and everything on Trump is exhausting.

Man beats up kid? That piece of shit must have had something wrong with his he- wait, he was a trump supporter? Trump had something to do with this, didn't he!


it really does get tiring after awhile

Except the guy who punched the kid is the one saying that Trump had something to do with it. Well, his lawyers are.

[Vassenor]

I don't think anyone here is failing to blame the guy who did it.

What they are saying is that Trump repeatedly urging his supporters to punch people could incite some of his supporters to punch people. Go figure.

I'm not saying he's a good president, in fact I think he's garbage, but Vassenor's unhealthy obsession with blaming anything and everything on Trump is exhausting.

Right how dare I say his rhetoric might have had something to do with an act the perpetrator said was inspired by his rhetoric.

[Lanoraie II]

I'm not saying he's a good president, in fact I think he's garbage, but Vassenor's unhealthy obsession with blaming anything and everything on Trump is exhausting.

Man beats up kid? That piece of shit must have had something wrong with his he- wait, he was a trump supporter? Trump had something to do with this, didn't he!


it really does get tiring after awhile

Indeed.

You have to admit the rhetoric he spouts certainly doesn't help, and this incident might not have happened otherwise.

Hmm, no, I can't admit that, because I don't believe it.

[Nantoraka]

Man beats up kid? That piece of shit must have had something wrong with his he- wait, he was a trump supporter? Trump had something to do with this, didn't he!


it really does get tiring after awhile

Except the guy who punched the kid is the one saying that Trump had something to do with it. Well, his lawyers are.

Yes, his lawyers - he's already gotten a violent criminal record, and this is just icing on the cake. There's a very strong case against him, and all his lawyer can do is say "Well, he didn't think it was a crime...because he thought his commanding officer was commanding him to" is hope it somehow gets tractions.

[Neanderthaland]

Except the guy who punched the kid is the one saying that Trump had something to do with it. Well, his lawyers are.

Yes, his lawyers - he's already gotten a violent criminal record, and this is just icing on the cake. There's a very strong case against him, and all his lawyer can do is say "Well, he didn't think it was a crime...because he thought his commanding officer was commanding him to" is hope it somehow gets tractions.

It's a desperate legal defense, and it won't and shouldn't work.

That doesn't mean that it isn't true. I don't know whether it is or not, but it's embarrassing for the country that it's plausible. Trump has told his supporters to punch people. And has assured them that he can pardon them if they get into trouble. Pointing out that this guy is a violent criminal is immaterial to that. You wouldn't expect a good citizen to listen to Trump's more violent rhetoric. Another thing that is embarrassing for the country. A good citizen shouldn't have to pointedly ignore what their POTUS suggests.