Dating is at a Record Low: Another Dating Thread

[Bear Stearns]

Maybe? The tech helped me find my wife, though.

I found mine the old fashioned way, at a party and asked her out the next day.

The old fashioned way is being introduced by friends/family.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Also cuz I saw someone mention it porn also probably plays a big part in this cuz everyone is addicted and just sticks with that instead of trying to get with a partner.

[Bear Stearns]

Sex is simply pointless. Dating is absurd and dangerous. A cat is much better than a partner.

This is a strong indicator of anti-social behavior.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

The answer is the decline of social capital and trust in the United States. The same reason why people aren't dating as much is the same reason why mass shootings and suicides are up.

Asabiyyah and intellectualism & scientific progress & wealth are always negatively correlated.

Which is why we need collectivism. Gone are the days of the farmstead, here are the days of mass industrialization, mass communication, and loss of individuality. The modern world is cancer to the individualist.

[Neko-koku]

This is a very typical trad view.

The main problem here is that it is a product of some particular societies under some particular circumstances.

It doesn't really matter what societies came up with it. The fact is, it is the single social framework which created the greatest civilization in the world, and which is currently being destroyed by the modern left.

It is destroyed by lack of Malthusianism (that is, people are no longer almost dead all the time), not soc leftism. Whenever and wherever women can feed themselves the northern family breaks down. You are giving soc leftists way too much credit.

[Neko-koku]

Asabiyyah and intellectualism & scientific progress & wealth are always negatively correlated.

Which is why we need collectivism. Gone are the days of the farmstead, here are the days of mass industrialization, mass communication, and loss of individuality. The modern world is cancer to the individualist.

Better dead than collectivist.

[Antityranicals]

Men have forgotten how to be men. Men don't strive to be heroes anymore. Girls want heroes, and rightfully so. It is the duty of all men to defeat the mediocrity within them, and be everything that a girl ever dreamed of. It's hard as hell, but it's what men ought to do. Today, I don't think most male humans really deserve the title of "man." In the minds of many, masculinity doesn't mean greatness and heroism, it means perversion and lust. Thus one group of men run towards this evil in the pursuit of manliness, while another group run away from real manliness in disgust of this evil. It's rather sad, and we live in a society who sorts men into one of these two groups. I challenge all men to break free of this, and to be real men.

Why?

What do guys get out of this? And what are women supposed to do?

You're thinking of heroism all wrong. The benefit to the man is that the woman benefits. That's all there is to it. And the woman doesn't have any obligation. It's that simple. As a man, I can't think of much of anything I'd rather do that make one woman happy for her entire life. Why does there need to be any more incentive than that?

[Grinning Dragon]

I found mine the old fashioned way, at a party and asked her out the next day.

The old fashioned way is being introduced by friends/family.

Well, yes there is that. I was eluding to the fact it was a face to face contact, instead of tech related, but then again our version of tech were the personal ads in the newspaper.

[Scomagia]

I hate to say it because I sympathise but it was better she split before you got married.

I completely agree. What would have been worse is if we actually had kids because then it would have made thing 10000000 times more uncomfortable and all around icky. There has never been a choice I was more glad to not make than not having children with her, because that's all I would need. I'm one of the few people I know besides my skinhead friend Josh who doesn't have kids and it feels good

Why would you have had kids before getting married?

Kids aren't for everyone, I suppose.

[Rojava Free State]

I found mine the old fashioned way, at a party and asked her out the next day.

The old fashioned way is being introduced by friends/family.

My mom wanted to do that with me and our neighbor Ray Mahsoud's niece

My mom is a very conservative woman despite her strange support for third wave feminism and hatred for the current president. I can't put down where on the compass she falls, but I don't view the world like she does. She referred to my relationship with my last girlfriend as courtship but warned me about premarital sex with her.

I didn't listen

[Scomagia]

Maybe? The tech helped me find my wife, though.

I found mine the old fashioned way, at a party and asked her out the next day.

Good deal.

[Bear Stearns]

Asabiyyah and intellectualism & scientific progress & wealth are always negatively correlated.

Which is why we need collectivism. Gone are the days of the farmstead, here are the days of mass industrialization, mass communication, and loss of individuality. The modern world is cancer to the individualist.

We don't need too much collectivism. In fact, simple measures such as stopping with this multicultural, mass immigration nonsense would do wonders for increasing the amount of collectivism and social capital.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Why?

What do guys get out of this? And what are women supposed to do?

You're thinking of heroism all wrong. The benefit to the man is that the woman benefits. That's all there is to it. And the woman doesn't have any obligation. It's that simple. As a man, I can't think of much of anything I'd rather do that make one woman happy for her entire life. Why does there need to be any more incentive than that?

That:
1. Won’t work any better than just asking someone out
2. Will make you put more stress into stuff than you actually need to
It will not affect women, and it will be taxing for men.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Back then they probably didn’t have much of a personal choice compared to now since the social expectancy to date, marry and have kids was stronger then than now.

I don't think people are as motivated by social pressures as much as they are by their own desires and convenience.

People had outlets for dealing with unfavorable social pressures, even back in the 1950s.

Which is kinda good IMO, social pressures tend to negate individual liberties a lot of times which is a huge no-no in my book.

Maybe alcohol but that’s about it, it’s not like they had a good amount of social safety nets back then.

[Bear Stearns]

The old fashioned way is being introduced by friends/family.

My mom wanted to do that with me and our neighbor Ray Mahsoud's niece

My mom is a very conservative woman despite her strange support for third wave feminism and hatred for the current president. I can't put down where on the compass she falls, but I don't view the world like she does. She referred to my relationship with my last girlfriend as courtship but warned me about premarital sex with her.

I didn't listen

I met my girlfriend in high school through a country club mixer, and I met my girlfriend in college through the College Republicans.

Now that I'm in investment banking I don't have a social life.

[Rojava Free State]

I completely agree. What would have been worse is if we actually had kids because then it would have made thing 10000000 times more uncomfortable and all around icky. There has never been a choice I was more glad to not make than not having children with her, because that's all I would need. I'm one of the few people I know besides my skinhead friend Josh who doesn't have kids and it feels good

Why would you have had kids before getting married?

Kids aren't for everyone, I suppose.

we were gonna get married till she called it all off. Besides I currently plan on having a lot of kids and never marrying, so I can say I did something for this world (adding more people to it). I view marriage as an archaic practice that only humans do and as a meaningless label. If you love someone then why does your relationship need some weird label tagged on. And that's if you love someome, which I dont. I find many women attractive. I don't feel love for them though it any weird romance. It's purely sexual attraction and that's it.

[Ayytaly]

It sounds like you have embraced apathy and misanthropy.
Modern Feminism has destroyed women.

Uh..Modern Feminism has empowered, not destroyed women. It destroyed availability of women to men. That's not the same as "destroying women".

Women under feminism chose to think with open legs, and choose men who contribute to society the least because "he's cute." Women are the gatekeepers of reproduction, but with their current mentality, as well as a bunch of sexually-frustrated scientists from Japan developing gynoids for an equally angry consumer demographic, women have facilitated their eventual phase-out for the next 50 years.

[Scomagia]

It's a shame the decrease in "dating" hasn't resulted in a contrary increase in marriage.

Can't wait struggling to find a woman willing to eschew pre-marital sex.

That is rough. Do you attend Catholic functions outside of the usual Mass and so forth? That'd be the way to find a woman like that.

[Bear Stearns]

I don't think people are as motivated by social pressures as much as they are by their own desires and convenience.

People had outlets for dealing with unfavorable social pressures, even back in the 1950s.

Which is kinda good IMO, social pressures tend to negate individual liberties a lot of times which is a huge no-no in my book.

Maybe alcohol but that’s about it, it’s not like they had a good amount of social safety nets back then.

Social pressures are good for reducing things like teen pregnancy, drunk driving, and licentiousness.

And no, people back in the 1950s had the option to move to large cities, where many counterculture lifestyles were moderately tolerated as long as things were discrete.

But that really didn't affect the vast majority of people.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Uh..Modern Feminism has empowered, not destroyed women. It destroyed availability of women to men. That's not the same as "destroying women".

Women under feminism chose to think with open legs, and choose men who contribute to society the least because "he's cute." Women are the gatekeepers of reproduction, but with their current mentality, as well as a bunch of sexually-frustrated scientists from Japan developing gynoids for an equally angry consumer demographic, women have facilitated their eventual phase-out for the next 50 years.

Enlighten me on how I think with “open legs”.

[Rojava Free State]

It's a shame the decrease in "dating" hasn't resulted in a contrary increase in marriage.

Can't wait struggling to find a woman willing to eschew pre-marital sex.

*slaps hands together* come with me to warren, where we will find you a traditional polish wife at the market

[Scomagia]

Why would you have had kids before getting married?

Kids aren't for everyone, I suppose.

we were gonna get married till she called it all off. Besides I currently plan on having a lot of kids and never marrying, so I can say I did something for this world (adding more people to it). I view marriage as an archaic practice that only humans do and as a meaningless label. If you love someone then why does your relationship need some weird label tagged on. And that's if you love someome, which I dont. I find many women attractive. I don't feel love for them though it any weird romance. It's purely sexual attraction and that's it.

I see...

[Neko-koku]

Uh..Modern Feminism has empowered, not destroyed women. It destroyed availability of women to men. That's not the same as "destroying women".

Women under feminism chose to think with open legs, and choose men who contribute to society the least because "he's cute." Women are the gatekeepers of reproduction, but with their current mentality, as well as a bunch of sexually-frustrated scientists from Japan developing gynoids for an equally angry consumer demographic, women have facilitated their eventual phase-out for the next 50 years.

So be it.

What you described is basically what is normal in some parts of Sub-Saharan Africa and some parts of Southeast Asia even today. Look up matrilocal and matrilineal societies and you will see that they are very familiar.

[Torisakia]

I don't date because I'm not running the risk of a woman accusing me of sexual assault even if I never touched her once. I'll ruin my own life, thank you very much.

[Rojava Free State]

Women under feminism chose to think with open legs, and choose men who contribute to society the least because "he's cute." Women are the gatekeepers of reproduction, but with their current mentality, as well as a bunch of sexually-frustrated scientists from Japan developing gynoids for an equally angry consumer demographic, women have facilitated their eventual phase-out for the next 50 years.

So be it.

What you described is basically what is normal in some parts of Sub-Saharan Africa and some parts of Southeast Asia even today. Look up matrilocal and matrilineal societies and you will see that they are very familiar.

Women should choose men based on what they can do and not how they can look

Actually every one ought to work like that