Dating is at a Record Low: Another Dating Thread

[Bear Stearns]

He is offering an explanation for observed phenomenon, I don't think it's that nefarious at all. Not every discussion of race has to revolve around SJW shit or ethnonationalism. People need to be able frank conversations about this stuff.

Then you have to ask why they are trying to offer an “explanation” for their “observed phenomenon”, what is the motivation?

Because we want to better understand why people behave the way they do? Why are you so squeamish about this?

Is it because they believe that each race is genetically predisposed to certain actions and are also genetically incompatible with other races when it comes to relationships?

You obviously do not understand what the phrase "genetically predisposed" means. Genetic predisposition means that given a certain environment, the traits determined by certain genes are more likely to be accentuated.

I don’t know but it certainly seems like they’re trying to make the argument that “well, whites and blacks and other races are genetically gonna have these kinda things happen so they’re gonna happen”.

Where is that being argued? Are we looking at the same threads?

There’s no ”””SJW”””shit happening,

Obviously, I pointed out as such.

just a personal observation from myself that this is some race-realist argumentation here, you don’t need to be whatever you consider to be an “””SJW””” so see that.

Your personal observation is detached from reality.

[Bear Stearns]

I ask as OP to get that ethnonationalistic bullshit out of here, please.

Where's the ethnonationalism?

[Bear Stearns]

Then you have to ask why they are trying to offer an “explanation” for their “observed phenomenon”, what is the motivation? Is it because they believe that each race is genetically predisposed to certain actions and are also genetically incompatible with other races when it comes to relationships? I don’t know but it certainly seems like they’re trying to make the argument that “well, whites and blacks and other races are genetically gonna have these kinda things happen so they’re gonna happen”. There’s no ”””SJW”””shit happening, just a personal observation from myself that this is some race-realist argumentation here, you don’t need to be whatever you consider to be an “””SJW””” so see that.

What's really funny is that I'm not even an ethnonat, just a general HBDer who generally promote fellah interests.

Funny you say that. I actually watched the Rushton-Suzuki debate today.

[Neko-koku]

What's really funny is that I'm not even an ethnonat, just a general HBDer who generally promote fellah interests.

Funny you say that. I actually watched the Rushton-Suzuki debate today.

Cool!

[Neko-koku]

What's really funny is that I'm not even an ethnonat, just a general HBDer who generally promote fellah interests.

Well, I don’t believe you either. Also, what do Egyptian peasants have to do with anything?

The terminology is from Oswald Spengler and Liu Zhongjing.

Unlike them I do not consider fellahism as a pure evil. Both barbarism and fellahism have pros and cons. Fellahs are often better merchants and scholars than barbarians. However fellahism also has a major downside, namely fellahin often can hardly defeat barbarians in battle if we control for commander skills and weaponry. However with tech being increasingly important in the military and that fellahin are usually fairly good at tech I think the sweet spot has moved towards fellahin.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Then you have to ask why they are trying to offer an “explanation” for their “observed phenomenon”, what is the motivation?

Because we want to better understand why people behave the way they do? Why are you so squeamish about this?

Is it because they believe that each race is genetically predisposed to certain actions and are also genetically incompatible with other races when it comes to relationships?

You obviously do not understand what the phrase "genetically predisposed" means. Genetic predisposition means that given a certain environment, the traits determined by certain genes are more likely to be accentuated.

I don’t know but it certainly seems like they’re trying to make the argument that “well, whites and blacks and other races are genetically gonna have these kinda things happen so they’re gonna happen”.

Where is that being argued? Are we looking at the same threads?

There’s no ”””SJW”””shit happening,

Obviously, I pointed out as such.

just a personal observation from myself that this is some race-realist argumentation here, you don’t need to be whatever you consider to be an “””SJW””” so see that.

Your personal observation is detached from reality.

1. Do you believe then that the skin color of those involved matters and if so? Why? Because if skin color matters then racism is automatically involved, I despise racism, is there a problem with despising racism or something?
2. And that seems like the kind of argumentation going on here, “blacks and whites are to gonna break up cuz reasons” if what they’re trying to get at isn’t the genetic predisposition of relationship incompatibility then I don’t know what is.
3. We are looking at the exact same threads.
4. Cool beans.
5. Says you, and only you, I don’t care what you think of my personal observation.

[Nakena]

I ask as OP to get that ethnonationalistic bullshit out of here, please.

Indeed. However, if it stays that way i suggest this title change to reflect the change of topic accordingly:

Dating is at a Record Low: Another Racemixing Thread

irony off

Unlike them I do not consider fellahism as a pure evil. Both barbarism and fellahism have pros and cons. Fellahs are often better merchants and scholars than barbarians. However fellahism also has a major downside, namely fellahin often can hardly defeat barbarians in battle if we control for commander skills and weaponry. However with tech being increasingly important in the military and that fellahin are usually fairly good at tech I think the sweet spot has moved towards fellahin.

What if the barbarians get tech too?

[Neko-koku]

I ask as OP to get that ethnonationalistic bullshit out of here, please.

Indeed. However, if it stays that way i suggest this title change to reflect the change of topic accordingly:

Dating is at a Record Low: Another Racemixing Thread

irony off

Unlike them I do not consider fellahism as a pure evil. Both barbarism and fellahism have pros and cons. Fellahs are often better merchants and scholars than barbarians. However fellahism also has a major downside, namely fellahin often can hardly defeat barbarians in battle if we control for commander skills and weaponry. However with tech being increasingly important in the military and that fellahin are usually fairly good at tech I think the sweet spot has moved towards fellahin.

What if the barbarians get tech too?

Fellahin are usually still better at developing new tech than them as long as the internal distrust due to excessive fellahism does not cause people to lose interest in tech progress.

[Nakena]

Indeed. However, if it stays that way i suggest this title change to reflect the change of topic accordingly:

Dating is at a Record Low: Another Racemixing Thread

irony off



What if the barbarians get tech too?

Fellahin are still better at developing new tech than them as long as the internal distrust due to excessive fellahism does not cause people to lose interest in tech progress.

Are there any contemporary existing societies/nations you would classify as barbarian in spirit and ethos?

[The Sherpa Empire]

Well, I don’t believe you either. Also, what do Egyptian peasants have to do with anything?

The terminology is from Oswald Spengler and Liu Zhongjing.

Unlike them I do not consider fellahism as a pure evil. Both barbarism and fellahism have pros and cons. Fellahs are often better merchants and scholars than barbarians. However fellahism also has a major downside, namely fellahin often can hardly defeat barbarians in battle if we control for commander skills and weaponry. However with tech being increasingly important in the military and that fellahin are usually fairly good at tech I think the sweet spot has moved towards fellahin.

This just sounds like another bullshit dichotomy like "alphas" and "betas."

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

I ask as OP to get that ethnonationalistic bullshit out of here, please.

Indeed. However, if it stays that way i suggest this title change to reflect the change of topic accordingly:

Dating is at a Record Low: Another Racemixing Thread

irony off

Unlike them I do not consider fellahism as a pure evil. Both barbarism and fellahism have pros and cons. Fellahs are often better merchants and scholars than barbarians. However fellahism also has a major downside, namely fellahin often can hardly defeat barbarians in battle if we control for commander skills and weaponry. However with tech being increasingly important in the military and that fellahin are usually fairly good at tech I think the sweet spot has moved towards fellahin.

What if the barbarians get tech too?

I agree, I’m not even sure how this got into racemixing to begin with.

[Nakena]

Indeed. However, if it stays that way i suggest this title change to reflect the change of topic accordingly:

Dating is at a Record Low: Another Racemixing Thread

irony off



What if the barbarians get tech too?

I agree, I’m not even sure how this got into racemixing to begin with.

Just NSG at Summer and the few usual derailings happening. I retain my point though the smartphone and digitalization changed stuff radically.

[Neko-koku]

Fellahin are still better at developing new tech than them as long as the internal distrust due to excessive fellahism does not cause people to lose interest in tech progress.

Are there any contemporary existing societies/nations you would classify as barbarian in spirit and ethos?

Fellahism and barbarism aren't discrete. Instead they are on a spectrum. However fairly pure cases of barbarism and fellahin still exist. Eastern DR Congo for example is highly barbarian.

[Phoenicaea]

it should depend on social habits. besides, i believe that it is correlated with education, greater the education, less the.. date.

these affirmation could not be prooved, you can t count how many people date, nor how many confronting an other decade.

[Europa Undivided]

Because
1. People are picky as hell, and will stick to their preferences.
2. Social media and the internet has caused many to prefer to watch anime and other stuff rather than do actual face to face conversation.
3. The pressure to have a good and stable career.
4. Tinder

Meanwhile, here in the Philippines, my friends are having girlfriends and boyfriends left and right and I am still the ever present third wheel.

[Nakena]

Are there any contemporary existing societies/nations you would classify as barbarian in spirit and ethos?

Fellahism and barbarism aren't discrete. Instead they are on a spectrum. Eastern DR Congo for example is highly barbarian.

What would be the most advanced barbarian place then? (who is also most there on the spectrum)

[Neko-koku]

Fellahism and barbarism aren't discrete. Instead they are on a spectrum. Eastern DR Congo for example is highly barbarian.

What would be the most advanced barbarian place then? (who is also most there on the spectrum)

Saudi bedouins? Both advanced and barbarian.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

If you don't like the race-mixing aspect, report it as threadjacking or ignore it. I guess if it becomes especially egregious, denounce it and challenge it.

Anyway, I think that another minor reason for the decline in dating is the existence of cross-sex friendships. Back in the day, it was considered improper for boys to spend times with girls, and I think some element of that existed until fairly recently. I have limited experience so my hypothesis is probably wrong, but we've reached the point where a boy and a girl can hang out and it's not a date.

[Neko-koku]

If you don't like the race-mixing aspect, report it as threadjacking or ignore it. I guess if it becomes especially egregious, denounce it and challenge it.

Anyway, I think that another minor reason for the decline in dating is the existence of cross-sex friendships. Back in the day, it was considered improper for boys to spend times with girls, and I think some element of that existed until fairly recently. I have limited experience so my hypothesis is probably wrong, but we've reached the point where a boy and a girl can hang out and it's not a date.

Fine. Let's make it a separate thread.

[Neko-koku]

Because
1. People are picky as hell, and will stick to their preferences.
2. Social media and the internet has caused many to prefer to watch anime and other stuff rather than do actual face to face conversation.
3. The pressure to have a good and stable career.
4. Tinder

Meanwhile, here in the Philippines, my friends are having girlfriends and boyfriends left and right and I am still the ever present third wheel.

Because it is the Philippines with a more outgoing culture than sexless areas.

[Ostroeuropa]

Multiple reasons for it, economic, technological, and so on, but also (you guessed it) feminism and the dynamic between the sexes it has produced.

Beyond that it's possible that left to their own devices far less people will partner up than is assumed, and that some degree of forcing people to meet and interact in order to partner people up is necessary for a whole host of reasons, including economic.

Arranged marriages might be something to consider for our societies.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

Anyway, I think that another minor reason for the decline in dating is the existence of cross-sex friendships. Back in the day, it was considered improper for boys to spend times with girls, and I think some element of that existed until fairly recently. I have limited experience so my hypothesis is probably wrong, but we've reached the point where a boy and a girl can hang out and it's not a date.

It depends on which country/culture we're talking about, but for the US and other parts of the Anglosphere I strongly agree.

I've had several date-like experiences with people I vibed with but weren't necessarily looking for sex or a relationship at the time. The number of people I've "dated" (or gone on a "date" with) is way higher than the number of people I'd refer to as a girlfriend, or the number of people I've actually slept with.

[Neko-koku]

Multiple reasons for it, economic, technological, and so on, but also (you guessed it) feminism and the dynamic between the sexes it has produced.

Beyond that it's possible that left to their own devices far less people will partner up than is assumed, and that some degree of forcing people to meet and interact in order to partner people up is necessary for a whole host of reasons, including economic.

Arranged marriages might be something to consider for our societies.

That's literally what's going on in China. Parents do not select spouses for their kids. However sometimes adult men and women are too shy to ever pair up on their own..

So the purpose of Xiangqin is actually the opposite of the purpose of arranged marriages in the Middle East. In the Middle East without enforced Sharia people will naturally have casual sex (which Arabs in the West do have). On the other hand in China the opposite is common. Without parents introducing gals to guys sometimes guys and gals don't ever get coupled.

[Kassaran]

I'm going to make a quick, harsh, and candid post here before going to bed, in spite of having just originally set up to write out a paragraph:

I don't date because:
1. I've yet to meet the physical and social standards I want to have before I start.
2. Those whom do approach me either reek of desperation or immaturity and I refuse to entertain that sort of behavior while I'm busy building a career and a life for myself.
3. My social circles are small enough as is and I prefer to keep them that way to best keep things simple and straightforward. If I crave momentary human interactions beyond them, I can always go to a bar or a nightclub, dance with a stranger, and then return home.

There, I think I touched on my major points in not pursuing dating.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

I'm going to make a quick, harsh, and candid post here before going to bed, in spite of having just originally set up to write out a paragraph:

I don't date because:
1. I've yet to meet the physical and social standards I want to have before I start.
2. Those whom do approach me either reek of desperation or immaturity and I refuse to entertain that sort of behavior while I'm busy building a career and a life for myself.
3. My social circles are small enough as is and I prefer to keep them that way to best keep things simple and straightforward. If I crave momentary human interactions beyond them, I can always go to a bar or a nightclub, dance with a stranger, and then return home.

There, I think I touched on my major points in not pursuing dating.

Good on you for knowing yourself.