Dating is at a Record Low: Another Dating Thread

[Bear Stearns]

Seems like a lot of power dynamics in interracial relationships are rooted in (perhaps presumed) violence.

Of course it is lol..and you need to remove the word "interracial" for it's the same within a tribe.

Well that partly explains the staggering interracial divorce rates.

[Torisakia]

This is a strong indicator of anti-social behavior.

Not really. I'm more like a robot.

I mean cats are a lot less of a hassle to deal with than humans. So I can't blame you. Mine bring me more joy than any person could honestly.

[Neko-koku]

Of course it is lol..and you need to remove the word "interracial" for it's the same within a tribe.

Well that partly explains the staggering interracial divorce rates.

LOL.

[The Sherpa Empire]

Multiple factors related to the barbarian-fellah spectrum do not always agree. I think Korea is clearly more fellah than Vietnam. Crime rates and economic disparity suggest that Korea is more fellah while Vietnam is more barbarian. Vietnamese girls often marry Korean or Chinese ones for money or because they are human trafficking victims while the other way around seems a lot more love-based.

True, but my observation was based on US nationals of Korean and/or Vietnamese descent- rather than ethnic Koreans or ethnic Vietnamese from the motherland- so the mail-order bride phenomenon doesn't really apply. If you look at average household income among different ancestry groups in the US you won't see much difference between Korean Americans and Vietnamese Americans.

Ethnic Korean men are seen as more desirable among non-Korean Asian women (including Asian-American women) due in no small part to South Korea's rising soft power/hallyu, which indirectly leads to Korean men being held as the standard for East Asian male beauty ideals. This is clearly due to Korean culture/society being seen as more "fellah", but causes Korean American men to play the "barbarian" role in inter-ethnic relationships with non-Korean Asian-American women.

Coming into the convo in the middle here, but Mongolian guys are hotter than Koreans. Whoever is making those beauty standards needs to catch a clue.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Your ethnonationalist theory doesn’t seem to have any relevance as to why dating is at a record low.

His theory has nothing to do with ethnonationalism.

If you say so, however, I don’t believe you. Their “theory” as to what race is dating who and why is treading very close to race-realism territory, which is pretty intrinsically linked to ethnonationalism.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

True, but my observation was based on US nationals of Korean and/or Vietnamese descent- rather than ethnic Koreans or ethnic Vietnamese from the motherland- so the mail-order bride phenomenon doesn't really apply. If you look at average household income among different ancestry groups in the US you won't see much difference between Korean Americans and Vietnamese Americans.

Ethnic Korean men are seen as more desirable among non-Korean Asian women (including Asian-American women) due in no small part to South Korea's rising soft power/hallyu, which indirectly leads to Korean men being held as the standard for East Asian male beauty ideals. This is clearly due to Korean culture/society being seen as more "fellah", but causes Korean American men to play the "barbarian" role in inter-ethnic relationships with non-Korean Asian-American women.

Seems like a lot of power dynamics in interracial relationships are rooted in (perhaps presumed) violence.

Pretty much. I had a lot of fun picking apart Neko-koku's theory with this example.

[Neko-koku]

True, but my observation was based on US nationals of Korean and/or Vietnamese descent- rather than ethnic Koreans or ethnic Vietnamese from the motherland- so the mail-order bride phenomenon doesn't really apply. If you look at average household income among different ancestry groups in the US you won't see much difference between Korean Americans and Vietnamese Americans.

Ethnic Korean men are seen as more desirable among non-Korean Asian women (including Asian-American women) due in no small part to South Korea's rising soft power/hallyu, which indirectly leads to Korean men being held as the standard for East Asian male beauty ideals. This is clearly due to Korean culture/society being seen as more "fellah", but causes Korean American men to play the "barbarian" role in inter-ethnic relationships with non-Korean Asian-American women.

Coming into the convo in the middle here, but Mongolian guys are hotter than Koreans. Whoever is making those beauty standards needs to catch a clue.

Of course they are because they are wayyyyyyyy more barbarian than Koreans.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Of course it is lol..and you need to remove the word "interracial" for it's the same within a tribe.

Well that partly explains the staggering interracial divorce rates.

Divorce rates are pretty high cross the board, it doesn’t really matter what race anyone is since race hardly factors into reason for divorce unless one of the parties is racist.

[Neko-koku]

Multiple factors related to the barbarian-fellah spectrum do not always agree. I think Korea is clearly more fellah than Vietnam. Crime rates and economic disparity suggest that Korea is more fellah while Vietnam is more barbarian. Vietnamese girls often marry Korean or Chinese ones for money or because they are human trafficking victims while the other way around seems a lot more love-based.

True, but my observation was based on US nationals of Korean and/or Vietnamese descent- rather than ethnic Koreans or ethnic Vietnamese from the motherland- so the mail-order bride phenomenon doesn't really apply. If you look at average household income among different ancestry groups in the US you won't see much difference between Korean Americans and Vietnamese Americans.

Ethnic Korean men are seen as more desirable among non-Korean Asian women (including Asian-American women) due in no small part to South Korea's rising soft power/hallyu, which indirectly leads to Korean men being held as the standard for East Asian male beauty ideals. This is clearly due to Korean culture/society being seen as more "fellah", but causes Korean American men to play the "barbarian" role in inter-ethnic relationships with non-Korean Asian-American women.

That's a weird special case. It definitely does not make Koreans barbarian though.

[Neko-koku]

Well that partly explains the staggering interracial divorce rates.

Divorce rates are pretty high cross the board, it doesn’t really matter what race anyone is since race hardly factors into reason for divorce unless one of the parties is racist.

Even that also has a barbarian-fellahin component. Barbarians divorce more.

[Bear Stearns]

His theory has nothing to do with ethnonationalism.

If you say so, however, I don’t believe you. Their “theory” as to what race is dating who and why is treading very close to race-realism territory, which is pretty intrinsically linked to ethnonationalism.

What a stupid thing to believe.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

True, but my observation was based on US nationals of Korean and/or Vietnamese descent- rather than ethnic Koreans or ethnic Vietnamese from the motherland- so the mail-order bride phenomenon doesn't really apply. If you look at average household income among different ancestry groups in the US you won't see much difference between Korean Americans and Vietnamese Americans.

Ethnic Korean men are seen as more desirable among non-Korean Asian women (including Asian-American women) due in no small part to South Korea's rising soft power/hallyu, which indirectly leads to Korean men being held as the standard for East Asian male beauty ideals. This is clearly due to Korean culture/society being seen as more "fellah", but causes Korean American men to play the "barbarian" role in inter-ethnic relationships with non-Korean Asian-American women.

That's a weird special case. It definitely does not make Koreans barbarian though.

No race is “””barbarian”””.

[Bear Stearns]

Well that partly explains the staggering interracial divorce rates.

Divorce rates are pretty high cross the board, it doesn’t really matter what race anyone is since race hardly factors into reason for divorce unless one of the parties is racist.

As they say in court, "irreconcilable differences".

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

If you say so, however, I don’t believe you. Their “theory” as to what race is dating who and why is treading very close to race-realism territory, which is pretty intrinsically linked to ethnonationalism.

What a stupid thing to believe.

Says you.

[Bear Stearns]

Divorce rates are pretty high cross the board, it doesn’t really matter what race anyone is since race hardly factors into reason for divorce unless one of the parties is racist.

Even that also has a barbarian-fellahin component. Barbarians divorce more.

It would be interesting to know how often interracial relationships result in single motherhood or domestic abuse compared to regular relationships.

I'm certain statistics exist on the latter, but the former, I'd have no idea of how to find out.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Divorce rates are pretty high cross the board, it doesn’t really matter what race anyone is since race hardly factors into reason for divorce unless one of the parties is racist.

As they say in court, "irreconcilable differences".

Can’t help that racists consider the skin color of their SO an “””irreconcilable difference”””. Racists are gonna be racist.

[Bear Stearns]

What a stupid thing to believe.

Says you.

He is offering an explanation for observed phenomenon, I don't think it's that nefarious at all. Not every discussion of race has to revolve around SJW shit or ethnonationalism. People need to be able frank conversations about this stuff.

[Neko-koku]

Even that also has a barbarian-fellahin component. Barbarians divorce more.

It would be interesting to know how often interracial relationships result in single motherhood or domestic abuse compared to regular relationships.

Yeah, depends on the races involved.

Also I think you are probably looking at the wrong variables. What matters more is which exact race(s) are involved, not whether the races are the same.

Barbarians often abuse fellahin. Barbarian men abuse fellahin women even more. That's just a fact.

[Bear Stearns]

As they say in court, "irreconcilable differences".

Can’t help that racists consider the skin color of their SO an “””irreconcilable difference”””. Racists are gonna be racist.

I doubt racism is the contributing factor for interracial divorce given that racists are the least likely to be in interracial relationships.

[Bear Stearns]

It would be interesting to know how often interracial relationships result in single motherhood or domestic abuse compared to regular relationships.

Yeah, depends on the races involved.

Also I think you are probably looking at the wrong variables. What matters more is which exact race(s) are involved, not whether the races are the same.

Barbarians often abuse fellahin. Barbarian men abuse fellahin women even more. That's just a fact.

Fair.

Last time I checked the stats (been awhile), white male-Asian female marriages had a lower divorce rate than white-white marriages.

[New haven america]

I ask as OP to get that ethnonationalistic bullshit out of here, please.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Says you.

He is offering an explanation for observed phenomenon, I don't think it's that nefarious at all. Not every discussion of race has to revolve around SJW shit or ethnonationalism. People need to be able frank conversations about this stuff.

Then you have to ask why they are trying to offer an “explanation” for their “observed phenomenon”, what is the motivation? Is it because they believe that each race is genetically predisposed to certain actions and are also genetically incompatible with other races when it comes to relationships? I don’t know but it certainly seems like they’re trying to make the argument that “well, whites and blacks and other races are genetically gonna have these kinda things happen so they’re gonna happen”. There’s no ”””SJW”””shit happening, just a personal observation from myself that this is some race-realist argumentation here, you don’t need to be whatever you consider to be an “””SJW””” so see that.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

I ask as OP to get that ethnonationalistic bullshit out of here, please.

Indeed.

[Neko-koku]

He is offering an explanation for observed phenomenon, I don't think it's that nefarious at all. Not every discussion of race has to revolve around SJW shit or ethnonationalism. People need to be able frank conversations about this stuff.

Then you have to ask why they are trying to offer an “explanation” for their “observed phenomenon”, what is the motivation? Is it because they believe that each race is genetically predisposed to certain actions and are also genetically incompatible with other races when it comes to relationships? I don’t know but it certainly seems like they’re trying to make the argument that “well, whites and blacks and other races are genetically gonna have these kinda things happen so they’re gonna happen”. There’s no ”””SJW”””shit happening, just a personal observation from myself that this is some race-realist argumentation here, you don’t need to be whatever you consider to be an “””SJW””” so see that.

What's really funny is that I'm not even an ethnonat, just a general HBDer who generally promote fellah interests. Fellahism obviously can be harmful when it gets too extreme to the point of causing shitty entities such as PRC and NK to be persistent. I do advocate for slight barbarization to the point of not endangering citizen self-defense. Other than that it isn't that much of a problem.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Then you have to ask why they are trying to offer an “explanation” for their “observed phenomenon”, what is the motivation? Is it because they believe that each race is genetically predisposed to certain actions and are also genetically incompatible with other races when it comes to relationships? I don’t know but it certainly seems like they’re trying to make the argument that “well, whites and blacks and other races are genetically gonna have these kinda things happen so they’re gonna happen”. There’s no ”””SJW”””shit happening, just a personal observation from myself that this is some race-realist argumentation here, you don’t need to be whatever you consider to be an “””SJW””” so see that.

What's really funny is that I'm not even an ethnonat, just a general HBDer who generally promote fellah interests.

Well, I don’t believe you either. Also, what do Egyptian peasants have to do with anything?