Dating is at a Record Low: Another Dating Thread

[Bienenhalde]

Women should choose men based on what they can do and not how they can look

Actually every one ought to work like that

Work like what?

In these matrilocal and matrilineal societies men tend to fight, not work. They don't stay with one wife either. Sex happens whenever a guy travels to a gal's village. Children happen and the gal raises them up alone (or with her brothers and sisters) while the guy goes on to screw another gal.

Sounds very unfortunate. Sad to imagine a society where people do not fall in love and get married and children do not have two parents.

[Neko-koku]

Yes. That's why I said "without socioeconomic pressure".

AMBF relationships are more genuine on average while BMAF ones are less so.

Also why would A being more "barbarian" than B result in A being richer and less violent than B? I'm afraid I don't quite follow your barbarian-fellahin dichotomy.

Oops. The other way around.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

My school was basically the rich preppy kids, the large mob of poor kids that were mainly Latino, Arab, Chaldean or Albanian with some token white guys and a couple black kids, and the weebs. That was basically it at my school

I went to a prep school, but there was some diversity (Asians and Indians were a decent amount of the population).

Ah, so similar to my school experience, then?

My apologies, but "Fist of the North Star"? If I may ask, what is that? Is it one of those Chinese Cartoons?

One of the few animes I watch in my spare time.

Wait, I was kidding about the "Chinese Cartoon" bit. I wasn't expecting to be correct.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

What I'm saying is, however homophobic or bigoted it may seem, these relationships should not be participated in whatsoever, in a perfect world, not because gays are evil, but simply because procreation is impossible.

You're still not answering my questions.

I didn't ask what you think of them, I asked how you think they should operate without the other sex being involved?

Dogma doesn’t allow for the Christian extremist to believe same-sex couples could ever be happy.

[Neko-koku]

Work like what?

In these matrilocal and matrilineal societies men tend to fight, not work. They don't stay with one wife either. Sex happens whenever a guy travels to a gal's village. Children happen and the gal raises them up alone (or with her brothers and sisters) while the guy goes on to screw another gal.

Sounds very unfortunate. Sad to imagine a society where people do not fall in love and get married and children do not have two parents.

That's actually very normal in some parts of the world such as pre-Chinese Taiwan.

[Neko-koku]

Odd.
We have.
Black, White, musilam, and Latino.

Everyone sticks to there race.
Excluding.
Cheerleaders abondening the rest of us white guys (Give or take a few) for the basketball and soccer players.
Whites basically taking the Musilums in as our own.

Black and White shareing Latinos.

And a few people of all the races mixing together.

Basically to qwout my lit teacher from last year and again this year.
"I've noticed that y'all seem to segregate yourselves, I don't know if it's like a sub counciance thing or if y'all just like to be around people like you, I don't know but that's interesting to me!"

Muslims aren't a race. Most American Muslims are either black Americans or Arabs (technically caucasian, of a variety akin to Italians or greeks)

Right. In either case MMWF relationships should be more common than WMMF ones. The white side is the more fellah one while the Muslim side is the more barbarian one.

[Bienenhalde]

I think if more people went to church or were otherwise involved in organized religion this would be less of a problem. Organized religion has historically played a very important role in building community.

Multiculturalism is one of the biggest causes of this.

Not really, it has more to do with rationalism of the so-called "Enlightenment" and increasing individualism and materialism. Multiculturalism is just one of many side effects of these trends.

[Neko-koku]

Multiculturalism is one of the biggest causes of this.

Not really, it has more to do with rationalism of the so-called "Enlightenment" and increasing individualism and materialism. Multiculturalism is just one of many side effects of these trends.

Then I have to resist you. Sorry.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

Odd.
We have.
Black, White, musilam, and Latino.

Everyone sticks to there race.
Excluding.
Cheerleaders abondening the rest of us white guys (Give or take a few) for the basketball and soccer players.
Whites basically taking the Musilums in as our own.

Black and White shareing Latinos.

And a few people of all the races mixing together.

Basically to qwout my lit teacher from last year and again this year.
"I've noticed that y'all seem to segregate yourselves, I don't know if it's like a sub counciance thing or if y'all just like to be around people like you, I don't know but that's interesting to me!"

Muslims aren't a race. Most American Muslims are either black Americans or Arabs (technically caucasian, of a variety akin to Italians or greeks)

The ones I've met IRL have been mostly South Asian or East African, with some MENA, Indonesians, and African-Americans.

[New haven america]

Work like what?

In these matrilocal and matrilineal societies men tend to fight, not work. They don't stay with one wife either. Sex happens whenever a guy travels to a gal's village. Children happen and the gal raises them up alone (or with her brothers and sisters) while the guy goes on to screw another gal.

Sounds very unfortunate. Sad to imagine a society where people do not fall in love and get married and children do not have two parents.

Generally in matriarchically societies the kids are raise by their closest male relative on their mom's side, with their dad being allowed to visit and help out whenever he feels like it.

For example, a boy would be raised by his mom's brother or male cousin, with his dad visiting every now and again.

[New haven america]

You're still not answering my questions.

I didn't ask what you think of them, I asked how you think they should operate without the other sex being involved?

Dogma doesn’t allow for the Christian extremist to believe same-sex couples could ever be happy.

I know, but I'm genuinely curious as to how he thinks those relationships should work.

[Neko-koku]

Sounds very unfortunate. Sad to imagine a society where people do not fall in love and get married and children do not have two parents.

Generally in matriarchically societies the kids are raise by their closest male relative on their mom's side, with their dad being allowed to visit and help out whenever he feels like it.

For example, a boy would be raised by his mom's brother or male cousin, with his dad visiting every now and again.

That's exactly why some black athletes in America have extremely close relationship with their uncles. This is matrilocality / matrilineality at work.

[Rojava Free State]

Muslims aren't a race. Most American Muslims are either black Americans or Arabs (technically caucasian, of a variety akin to Italians or greeks)

Right. In either case MMWF relationships should be more common than WMMF ones. The white side is the more fellah one while the Muslim side is the more barbarian one.

I mean it depends what Muslims we are talking about. I wouldn't say the Lebanese or syrians are remotely barbarians.

And then there's borat

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Multiculturalism is one of the biggest causes of this.

Not really, it has more to do with rationalism of the so-called "Enlightenment" and increasing individualism and materialism. Multiculturalism is just one of many side effects of these trends.

The Enlightenment has little to do with multiculturalism. It’s more a result of the American geopolitical system.

[Scomagia]

What if they're gay or bisexual and not dating women?

Or what about lesbians? How are they expected to act?

As you might have read in my signature, I'm a libertarian Catholic. As such, while I support the rights of people to participate in these relationships, I must not endorse them, for one reason, and for one reason only. This is that these couples cannot have children, and that procreation is a central element of a romantic relationship. Here is another reason why men ought to have higher obligations towards women: women have to deal with pregnancy. This is why I will always hold that women ought have ultimate authority on sexual matters in a relationship, simply because they have to deal with the consequences. I am not being intolerant, it is just a simple biological fact that homosexual couples cannot have children. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, as that is not my intention whatsoever.

What about infertile couples? They can't procreate.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

Women should choose men based on what they can do and not how they can look

Actually every one ought to work like that

Work like what?

In these matrilocal and matrilineal societies men tend to fight, not work. They don't stay with one wife either. Sex happens whenever a guy travels to a gal's village. Children happen and the gal raises them up alone (or with her brothers and sisters) while the guy goes on to screw another gal.

Yeah the men of those societies are usually responsible for raising their sisters' children. That's my understanding of how Trobriand Islanders and the Mosuo tribe of China do it.

[Neko-koku]

Right. In either case MMWF relationships should be more common than WMMF ones. The white side is the more fellah one while the Muslim side is the more barbarian one.

I mean it depends what Muslims we are talking about. I wouldn't say the Lebanese or syrians are remotely barbarians.

And then there's borat

"Barbarian" is not a dirty word. Moreover it is relative. By agricultural NE Asian standards all whites, even Ashkenazi Jews, are clearly barbarians. However this does not change the fact that by global standards they are in the middle of the spectrum slightly on the fellah side.

From crime rates and intermarriage rate ratios it is clear that Syrians and Lebanese Muslims (maybe not Christians) are barbarians compared to West Europeans even though they might be fellahin compared to bedouins.

I do wonder where different Indian groups fit on the spectrum. They are clearly barbarians by agricultural NE Asian standards and fellahin by Middle Eastern or Sub-Saharan African standards. However whether they are barbarian or fellahin by West European standards is more interesting. It depends on the exact group. Bengalis for example are fairly fellah while Punjabi Sikhs on the other hand aren't.

[Rojava Free State]

I mean it depends what Muslims we are talking about. I wouldn't say the Lebanese or syrians are remotely barbarians.

And then there's borat

"Barbarian" is not a dirty word. Moreover it is relative. By agricultural NE Asian standards all whites, even Ashkenazi Jews, are clearly barbarians. However this does not change the fact that by global standards they are in the middle of the spectrum slightly on the fellah side.

From crime rates and intermarriage rate ratios it is clear that Syrians and Lebanese Muslims (maybe not Christians) are barbarians compared to West Europeans even though they might be fellahin compared to bedouins.

Syrian Americans actually have a lower crime rate than white americans on average

Can't say the same about most of the other people you're listing though

[Neko-koku]

"Barbarian" is not a dirty word. Moreover it is relative. By agricultural NE Asian standards all whites, even Ashkenazi Jews, are clearly barbarians. However this does not change the fact that by global standards they are in the middle of the spectrum slightly on the fellah side.

From crime rates and intermarriage rate ratios it is clear that Syrians and Lebanese Muslims (maybe not Christians) are barbarians compared to West Europeans even though they might be fellahin compared to bedouins.

Syrian Americans actually have a lower crime rate than white americans on average

Can't say the same about most of the other people you're listing though

Cool! Why are Syrian Americans and Syrian Latin Americans so different from Syrians in Europe though? However I do know that compared to many other Arab countries Lebanon and then Syria are the richest and the most civilized (and hence fellah) disregarding oil.

[The Republic of Fore]

Personally I have no desire to date or have children. It's easier to just have fun. However, most of my friends are in relationships.

[Neko-koku]

Work like what?

In these matrilocal and matrilineal societies men tend to fight, not work. They don't stay with one wife either. Sex happens whenever a guy travels to a gal's village. Children happen and the gal raises them up alone (or with her brothers and sisters) while the guy goes on to screw another gal.

Yeah the men of those societies are usually responsible for raising their sisters' children. That's my understanding of how Trobriand Islanders and the Mosuo tribe of China do it.

Yep.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

I do wonder where different Indian groups fit on the spectrum. They are clearly barbarians by agricultural NE Asian standards and fellahin by Middle Eastern or Sub-Saharan African standards. However whether they are barbarian or fellahin by West European standards is more interesting. It depends on the exact group. Bengalis for example are fairly fellah while Punjabi Sikhs on the other hand aren't.

Is your barbarian-fellahin distinction based more on culture/demographics or physical appearance?

[Bear Stearns]

"Barbarian" is not a dirty word. Moreover it is relative. By agricultural NE Asian standards all whites, even Ashkenazi Jews, are clearly barbarians. However this does not change the fact that by global standards they are in the middle of the spectrum slightly on the fellah side.

From crime rates and intermarriage rate ratios it is clear that Syrians and Lebanese Muslims (maybe not Christians) are barbarians compared to West Europeans even though they might be fellahin compared to bedouins.

Syrian Americans actually have a lower crime rate than white americans on average

Can't say the same about most of the other people you're listing though

Syrian Americans also tend to disproportionately come from the upper classes.

An upper class Syrian is going to have lower crime rates than a poor white.

[Neko-koku]

Barbarians
>Poor
>Violent
>Uneducated
>More social unity
>Masculine
>Male-biased in intermarriages

Fellahin
>Rich
>Peaceful
>Educated
>Less social unity
>Feminine
>Female-biased in intermarriages

[Antityranicals]

As you might have read in my signature, I'm a libertarian Catholic. As such, while I support the rights of people to participate in these relationships, I must not endorse them, for one reason, and for one reason only. This is that these couples cannot have children, and that procreation is a central element of a romantic relationship. Here is another reason why men ought to have higher obligations towards women: women have to deal with pregnancy. This is why I will always hold that women ought have ultimate authority on sexual matters in a relationship, simply because they have to deal with the consequences. I am not being intolerant, it is just a simple biological fact that homosexual couples cannot have children. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, as that is not my intention whatsoever.

What about infertile couples? They can't procreate.

Infertility is almost never definite. There have been many cases of couples who were thought infertile conceiving. The fact that homosexual couples cannot conceive, however, is completely indisputable.